Hmm, can't really argue with any of those selections, although I would've liked to see Jeff Foster of the Pacers chosen above Ilgauskas. Foster's statistics don't nearly tell the whole tale of how wonderful he is for the team, hustling to get offensive rebounds and put-backs. As badly as Scot Pollard played last year, and of course with the Brad Miller trade, we would've been fucked last year if we hadn't had Foster.
Good to see Stoudemire and Nash on the list, and of course I'm glad Jermaine O'Neal's going to the All-Star Game again this year. I think he deserves to be the starter instead of Vince Carter, though. Carter admitted that he deliberately dogged it when he was with the sucky Raptors, and he still remains popular enough to be an All-Star starter, while JO (who's never dogged it a day in his life) has to settle for being a reserve?
But hell, I'm not mad. JO's in there, so I'm cool.
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Yeah, i think they may have chosen Ginobli a year early. That guy has all-star written all over his game but as of yet he doesnt have the stats to back it up that an brand or a webber does. I do like them sneaking amare into the center spot to make room for another PF from the west though.
Originally posted by bradbice Surprising leftovers: Carmelo Anthony, Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin, Baron Davis, Andre Kirilenko, Peja Stojakovic, Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Emeka Okafor, Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Ron Artest(oops, nevermind).
Melo - Average this season, a few good games lots of average and below average J Kidd - too long injured K Mart - Good, but not great season. Baron - Injury city. Just not enough games. AK - Ditto. Peja - Slumping. See Melo. Starbury - Individual stats are good, team stats suck. Francis - close but no cigar. Who would you cut to put him in? Okafor - Top Rookie, but only average. If he plays so should Drew Gooden. Billups - Dunno. Hamilton - Dunno. Ron - If he played like he did before fight night for the season, he coulda been a contender
One could make an argument for Kirk Hinrich over Arenas, but they've really put up very similar numbers (although Hinrich has done it in fewer minutes), and have been key cogs in their teams' resurgences this season. Also: I have a huge mancrush on Hinrich.
I wouldn't say Carmelo is slumping, I have him on my fantasy team so I've watched him closely. He has pretty much the same numbers as last year across the board. He's just a scorer really, and while that might be worthy of the second or third best rookie in the league that's not good enough to make it as a forward on the West All Star team.
Kidd has missed too many games? Then so has Jermaine O'Neal, they have both played the same amount of games. And Kidd's missed games were not his fault while O'Neal's were.
I definitely think the two biggest snubs were Brad Miller or Chris Webber, Miller really should be the starting center over Ming so If i were picking them I would've put Miller and Ming at center, moved Stoudamire to forward and dropped Ginobli. But I knew they wouldn't, Miller has hardly gotten any attention so I knew he would get snubbed and Stoudamire would play out of position. But Webber not making it suprised me. 20 points per game, nearly 10 rebounds per game, 2nd among forwards in assists.
Yeah, I meant surprising leftovers as in name-recognition-surprising. I don't think any of them with the exception of Hamilton, Kidd and Billups should have been picked. Possibly Steve Francis, but you're right, there's no place for him (ie. Detroit's guards).
ROn Artest could have and probably would have, AND probably should have been picked IF he could have flipped his insane-in-the-brain switch off and just played basketball. He's showed us he's good enough to be Indiana's best player, but I guess there's good and bad with everything.
You guys aren't seeing the longterm benefits of this deal. Carter and Rose are MAXIMUM salary players who certainly haven't lived up to their value. If the Raps unload them, they get an insane amount of cap space this off season.