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#21 Posted on
I can believe that might edit something like that for time purposes, because on Smackdown they dont have the time overrun like RAW. I just dont buy into that theory that they edit RVD's or anybody's elses chants so they dont get over too fast or something. Thats like some used to imply that the WWF would play the Rocks chants in the arena to get them to chant it. Its ridiculous IMO...



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#22 Posted on
Quoth Papercuts: "The Undertaker's pop is still huge."

Yes, his entrance pop is pretty good sized, but the crowd really seems to zone out once he actually gets in the ring. It's like "Yay, it's Taker on his cool motorcycle." when he arrives, then a few minutes of silence, then "oh that mean Taker just cheated/did a mean thing. Boo!"



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#23 Posted on
    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    I can believe that might edit something like that for time purposes, because on Smackdown they dont have the time overrun like RAW. I just dont buy into that theory that they edit RVD's or anybody's elses chants so they dont get over too fast or something. Thats like some used to imply that the WWF would play the Rocks chants in the arena to get them to chant it. Its ridiculous IMO...



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Well, see, they *didn't* edit it for time. The only part of 'Takers little speech they took out was the response to the "WHAT" chants, which were muted out.

I'm not going to say that they doctor the chants or anything like that... I wouldn't be surprised either way, to be honest. Canned crowd heat is a time-honored tradition, and it's not a big step from there to full-blown manipulation. ::shrug::



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#24 Posted on
Perhaps it's better to think of the TV tapings as merely providing raw material (pun not intended) for the show that goes on the air. The WWF is under no obligation to air everything that happens in front of the cameras and mics--they're doing entertainment, not a documentary. They can mess with the sound levels and the crowd noise just as much as they need to for an effective show. If the engineers want to cut the "What" chants out of a Taker promo they didn't enhance, fine by me. Nothing unethical about it--Angle plays to the chants, Taker doesn't. Maybe eventually they can 'educate' the audience...wait a minute, did I say 'educate' a wrestling audience? Heh heh heh...

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#25 Posted on
As far as the Undertaker's pop is concerned, when he comes out on his "chopper," the crowd knows it. During the commercial break you can hear the motor from behind the Titantron. I've been to a few tapings since he started riding in, and I always thought that this was lame: shouldn't the crowd pop louder if they don't have time to prepare for the entrance? Or does all of the prep time make the pop louder?

When someone's music gets changed (as RVD's has recently), the pop is more gradual and thus, less spectacular. It takes some people a few seconds to figure out who's coming. Austin's glass makes for a great pop since it's SO unique. So does Rock's "If ya smell!" Jericho's pyro is so loud and HOT (the hottest of all the pyro) that it makes your heart jump when you're live. It takes a second to be able to react.

These factors (along with being way over or being the first superstar out after the dark matches) combine to make the pop what it is.

Most importantly, and most on topic, when you're live, you hear YOUR SECTION. Chances are, the TV mics are not focused on your section.
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#26 Posted on
    Originally posted by The Sham
    As far as the Undertaker's pop is concerned, when he comes out on his "chopper," the crowd knows it. During the commercial break you can hear the motor from behind the Titantron. I've been to a few tapings since he started riding in, and I always thought that this was lame: shouldn't the crowd pop louder if they don't have time to prepare for the entrance? Or does all of the prep time make the pop louder?

    When someone's music gets changed (as RVD's has recently), the pop is more gradual and thus, less spectacular. It takes some people a few seconds to figure out who's coming. Austin's glass makes for a great pop since it's SO unique. So does Rock's "If ya smell!" Jericho's pyro is so loud and HOT (the hottest of all the pyro) that it makes your heart jump when you're live. It takes a second to be able to react.

    These factors (along with being way over or being the first superstar out after the dark matches) combine to make the pop what it is.

    Most importantly, and most on topic, when you're live, you hear YOUR SECTION. Chances are, the TV mics are not focused on your section.



I say the bike adds to it. Especially now that he kinda over as that evil guy.
"oooh..we know what is gonna happen next!"
Most wrestling themes have some sort of catchy beginning. From the glass to a certain note being strung (The Game, RVD old music) to a catchphrase (Rock, Booker and doh...Flair)
That way the crowd can get ready and respond asap..

Madame Manga made a good point. They are ofcourse allowed to tamper with the sound, just as they do with the visuals. I guess the problem is though, why would you want to make someone look less popular than he is? If it doesn't have to be muted for contents I say let it go..




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#27 Posted on
If messing with the sound leads to a more effective and entertaining product, they should do it.

Hell, who hasn't thought that a Vince promo looked 10x better when they cut and edit it than it did when it played live on RAW?



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#28 Posted on
I think the crowd also might have been muted during the big Vince/Flair NWO promo during RAW. I noticed a lot of "WHAT?"s during the first few seconds, then they seemed to go away.



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If you STILL need evidence of how they do what they do, compare the live reaction to Stephanie slapping Christian to the version that we got on SmackDown!




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#30 Posted on
Also, as I wrote this week, that SD! Kidman match during the "Shane McMahon presents WCW" moments of 2001 was a classic example. They had to turn the crowd noise up so high to amplify the cheers that you could hear a kid in the third or fourth row yelling, "WHERE"S GOLDBERG?!?!" He was on the opposite side of the ring from the camera.

I can not remember the date. Sorry.



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#31 Posted on
They no doubt mute chants that are during a match. Well, not so much mute as try to equalize so that commentary can be heard (they still do a crappy job of sound on their show). "What?"s always come during promos, so there's little or no commentary to equalize with.
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