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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.14
I lost hope in Enterprise in the pilot. Klingon on Earth, temporal cold war and aliens we have never meet. It just seemed set-up if it failed that they were going to find a way to wipe it out. There is a lot of juicy stories to the history of Trek and they seem to go out of their way at times to ignore them. I will say I thought Star Trek III is criminally underrated.

I'd like Village for what it was even with the rather awkward ending. I'll throw another movie out there, Clue. I love the cast, the premise and the dark comedy involved plus the choose your own adventure endings. GI Joe would have been fine if they hired a better actor for Cobra Commander and dumped the Baroness/Duke storyline. Also the Waynes brother added nothing to the film. I have hopes for Rock and Willis to make this amazing.

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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.94
    Originally posted by Wpob
    Memento. Everyone I know hated that movie. I know it was not universally panned, but among my friends, they all thought it was awful. I remember walking out of the theater blown away by that movie. My wife and sister looked at my like I was high and both agreed it was the worst movie they had seen - and they never agree on anything.

    She's Out of my League. It got panned, but I thought it was a decent rental and laughed more than a couple of times. Not a great movie, but no where near as bad as the reviews had it.


The opposite on Memento for me. Everyone blows that movie and it has always been a gimmick to me. And I don't care what anyone says, Guy Pierce is a charismaless void of an actor.

Waterworld gets a lot of hate because of the avalanche of bad press it got because of its huge budget. Funny thing is, it made it's money back with worldwide grosses and there have been plenty of movies since that shattered its budget.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I'll throw another movie out there, Clue. I love the cast, the premise and the dark comedy involved plus the choose your own adventure endings.


Who are these people who don't like Clue? If they really are out there, you should stop associating with them immediately.

i don't get all the hate for The Last Samurai. It's nothing Oscar-caliber, but it's a fun action flick. Ken Watanabe is super awesome and Tom Cruise isn't just doing his usual shtick. Besides, it has that great scene where Cruise just flips out and kills like 6 dudes.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Toast Jr
    i don't get all the hate for The Last Samurai. It's nothing Oscar-caliber


The Last Samurai Academy Award Nominations: (imdb.com)

Best Supporting Actor: Ken Watanabe
Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
Best Costume Design
Best Sound Mixing

The Last Samurai is awesome.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Toast Jr
      i don't get all the hate for The Last Samurai. It's nothing Oscar-caliber


    The Last Samurai Academy Award Nominations: (imdb.com)

    Best Supporting Actor: Ken Watanabe
    Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
    Best Costume Design
    Best Sound Mixing

    The Last Samurai is awesome.


Oh. Well, now I *really* don't get the hate
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Toast Jr
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
        Originally posted by Toast Jr
        i don't get all the hate for The Last Samurai. It's nothing Oscar-caliber


      The Last Samurai Academy Award Nominations: (imdb.com)

      Best Supporting Actor: Ken Watanabe
      Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
      Best Costume Design
      Best Sound Mixing

      The Last Samurai is awesome.


    Oh. Well, now I *really* don't get the hate


I kind of do. Because Tom Cruise turned out to be The Last Samurai. I still think the movie is killer. NINJAS VS. SAMURAI.



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.06
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Toast Jr
        Originally posted by John Orquiola
          Originally posted by Toast Jr
          i don't get all the hate for The Last Samurai. It's nothing Oscar-caliber


        The Last Samurai Academy Award Nominations: (imdb.com)

        Best Supporting Actor: Ken Watanabe
        Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
        Best Costume Design
        Best Sound Mixing

        The Last Samurai is awesome.


      Oh. Well, now I *really* don't get the hate


    I kind of do. Because Tom Cruise turned out to be The Last Samurai. I still think the movie is killer. NINJAS VS. SAMURAI.
I don't think so - I think it was his mentor. Tom wasn't a samurai per se.



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Oliver
    I don't think so - I think it was his mentor. Tom wasn't a samurai per se.


Oliver, for God's sake. You think it was his mentor? His mentor in what? In becoming a samurai. Tom turned against his people and his army and joined with the samurai. He was a samurai. He learned their code, their way of life, and stood with them against his own people. He alone survived the charge against the modernized Japanese army. Tom Cruise was the last one whom the samurai's code and way of life lived through. He was The Last Samurai. That was the point of the movie.

And a lot of people hate it because 1) Tom Cruise was The Last Samurai and 2) Because the white guy joined the Japanese samurai, the Japanese samurai were all wiped out, and the white guy survived as the last one => insulting.

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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
I don't get the hate for the Fantastic Four movies. I liked 'em both.

I'm not sure what they could have done to change or improve them. Chris Evans really was impressive as Johnny Storm. Maybe people unfairly compared them to the Batman and X-Men movies. They got the family bickering dynamic down pretty good. Definitely not horrible.
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Oliver
      I don't think so - I think it was his mentor. Tom wasn't a samurai per se.


    Oliver, for God's sake. You think it was his mentor? His mentor in what? In becoming a samurai. Tom turned against his people and his army and joined with the samurai. He was a samurai. He learned their code, their way of life, and stood with them against his own people. He alone survived the charge against the modernized Japanese army. Tom Cruise was the last one whom the samurai's code and way of life lived through. He was The Last Samurai. That was the point of the movie.

    And a lot of people hate it because 1) Tom Cruise was The Last Samurai and 2) Because the white guy joined the Japanese samurai, the Japanese samurai were all wiped out, and the white guy survived as the last one => insulting.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 4.2.12 1948)


See now, I always read "samurai" as plural, and the title was referring to Ken Watanabe's whole group. They were the last samurai.
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#51 Posted on
The 1998, Matthew Broderick version of Godzilla. I thought it was a fun movie with great special effects and just shrug when people criticize the movie for the acting. We're there for the lizard, not to search for the next Sir Laurence Olivier, for crissakes...
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    See now, I always read "samurai" as plural, and the title was referring to Ken Watanabe's whole group. They were the last samurai.


Oh, I actually agree with that. It does work both ways, as the plural and the singular. And I do prefer the plural interpretation. But the perception that Tom Cruise is The Last Samurai at the end of the movie is what I've heard from others to be the basis of why they hated the movie. That group of samurai was The Last Samurai, but Tom was part of that group, and he was the last of The Last Samurai.



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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.96
I still love the Blair Witch Project.
I totally got sucked into the weirdness (yet lack of proof) and enjoyed the websites, books and what not that supported the story. The ending still creeps me out.

The past few years I've heard a lot of people hate on it.
What makes people hate that movie is
1- the handheld thing isn't for everyone
2- the lack of well..anything substantial happening

3- the gazillion similar styled movies (not to mention the terrible part 2 that killed its own myth iirc) that followed, and the influx of info about them has ruined the sub-genre.
There are so many movies out there that follow the handheld theme, yet are NOT Blair Witch..and yet people toss em together and then while eviscarating the latest movie, they tear down what made TBW great.





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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.14
    Originally posted by dwaters
    I don't get the hate for the Fantastic Four movies. I liked 'em both.

    I'm not sure what they could have done to change or improve them. Chris Evans really was impressive as Johnny Storm. Maybe people unfairly compared them to the Batman and X-Men movies. They got the family bickering dynamic down pretty good. Definitely not horrible.


I think the major problem with those movies is Doom. Doom could realistically be the villain in any Marvel movie going forward or at least be the threat in the background for the Avengers flicks as well as Spidey and a number of the other Marvel flicks. When they cast Doom as the guy who had very little acting chaps, good looking and not even close to having the presence that is needed for that role, you know they were half assing Doom.

I do think the first one was good and the second one with all the Silver Surfer stuff was decent til they pulled the rug out of from under us with Galactus. Galactus is perfect if you wanted to do what they are doing with Avengers ie gathering them up to face a major threat instead he is a giant cloud. Other than that, I think they are good films, but needed someone to come in and say listen, you need to re-write Doom and we need to split this Galactus stuff into two films and add in Spidey or the Watcher or someother heroes to make it feel epic.

(edited by lotjx on 5.2.12 0922)


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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
The cloud was kinda stupid, but I think having a giant purple and blue armored guy would have been worse.

I'm really looking forward to the Avengers movie. With a cast like that, how could it not be good?
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
Another thread in this forum reminded me how much I liked (and how much other people hated) Jumper. I still don't get why.

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#57 Posted on
I loved Jumper. I keep it on anytime i come across it on cable or TV.



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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.93
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by dwaters
      I don't get the hate for the Fantastic Four movies. I liked 'em both.

      I'm not sure what they could have done to change or improve them. Chris Evans really was impressive as Johnny Storm. Maybe people unfairly compared them to the Batman and X-Men movies. They got the family bickering dynamic down pretty good. Definitely not horrible.


    I think the major problem with those movies is Doom. Doom could realistically be the villain in any Marvel movie going forward or at least be the threat in the background for the Avengers flicks as well as Spidey and a number of the other Marvel flicks. When they cast Doom as the guy who had very little acting chaps, good looking and not even close to having the presence that is needed for that role, you know they were half assing Doom.

    I do think the first one was good and the second one with all the Silver Surfer stuff was decent til they pulled the rug out of from under us with Galactus. Galactus is perfect if you wanted to do what they are doing with Avengers ie gathering them up to face a major threat instead he is a giant cloud. Other than that, I think they are good films, but needed someone to come in and say listen, you need to re-write Doom and we need to split this Galactus stuff into two films and add in Spidey or the Watcher or someother heroes to make it feel epic.

    (edited by lotjx on 5.2.12 0922)


Plus Doom is a corporate mogul. Jebus this is the most overused trope in Hollywood.

FF is half perfect and half awful. Doom sucks and Alba and the guy who was Richards(to show how memorable he was) were very bland. But Chiklis and Evans knocked it out of the park.

Another major gripe for me is The Thing's look. He looks fake as hell. I'd go as far as to say the Corman version looked better. He looks like he has bad skin, not that he's made of rock.

ROTSS was a huge improvement as you had less Doom and a dead on Surfer.
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