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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.07
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
      most self-respecting artists would NEVER intentionally put out horrible work



    Isn't there some sort of story about Neil Young putting out crap on purpose because he was pissed off at his record company at the time ?


I wouldn't call it crap, per se. He was really into synthesizer music at the time, and he had just signed a deal with a new label (I can't remember which one). The head of the label got pissed, and told Neil Young that he was signed to make a rock album. In response, Young put out a 50's style rockabilly album, which I actually think is pretty good. He gave the company what they asked for, just not what they wanted.
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
Metallica; "Metallica" (affectionately known as the 'black album') to "Load". Not as bad as "Reload", which was so bad I had to microwave it for satisfaction, but still a MASSIVE step down from the album that gave us the Unforgiven and Enter Sandman.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Some hip hop:

Eminem's "Encore" is garbage. So were most of his guest appearances post-Eminem Show

Same with D12. Devil's Night was totally overlooked and underpromoted, the opposite is true for D12 World which sucked major ass.

Granted his career has mostly been on the up and up, but NaS went from Illmatic to eventually do Nastradamus.

Everyone loves Jay-Z now, but he went from the awesome Reasonable Doubt to doing In My Lifetime, Hard Knock Life, and The Life and Times of S. Carter which had a good song peppered here or there, but overall were garbage.

I don't know if this counts, but Gwen Stefani went from an awesome run with No Doubt albums to putting out that crappy solo "project" of hers.



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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Garbage had two great CDs in "Garbage" and "Garbage 2.0" Their followup in "Beautiful Garbage" was HORRID. It was like they told Manson "Try to be more like Brittany Spears or Jessica Simpson, oh, and get rid of the techno and bass and make it lore light and poppy and something that six year old girls can enjoy!"

I hear that in "Bleed Like Me" they go back to their darker roots, but I'm scared to pick it up.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.01
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    Garbage had two great CDs in "Garbage" and "Garbage 2.0" Their followup in "Beautiful Garbage" was HORRID. It was like they told Manson "Try to be more like Brittany Spears or Jessica Simpson, oh, and get rid of the techno and bass and make it lore light and poppy and something that six year old girls can enjoy!"

    I hear that in "Bleed Like Me" they go back to their darker roots, but I'm scared to pick it up.


You should pick it up...it's an excellent album. If you liked the first two, you'll love this one.



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.68
    Originally posted by Deacon Jim
      Originally posted by AWArulz
      I had it on Vinyl AND 8 Track.




    Very few people on this board probably realize how truly awesome this statement is. Us old guys know. I've had very very few albums that were on multiple formats (although I didn't know they were formats at the time). I had a lot on vinyl and a lot on 8 track and a lot on cassete. But, duplication was rare.

    (edited by Von Erich on 20.5.06 2236)


You had to have one for the 8-track player in the car.

(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 22.5.06 1350)


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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.01
I thought Travis's "The Man Who" was an absolutely brilliant album. Their follow up, "The Invisible Band" was, well, lacking.





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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.60
    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
    You had to have one for the 8-track player in the car.


Yep. The only other one I had both for was J. Geils: Live Blow your face out.

The rest: Either records OR 8-Track. All ZZTop - 8 track only. All Pick Floyd: Records only. I couldn't BEAR to have it switch tracks during "Money"

(edited by AWArulz on 23.5.06 2240)



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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.12
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by Kevintripod
        Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
        most self-respecting artists would NEVER intentionally put out horrible work



      Isn't there some sort of story about Neil Young putting out crap on purpose because he was pissed off at his record company at the time ?


    I wouldn't call it crap, per se. He was really into synthesizer music at the time, and he had just signed a deal with a new label (I can't remember which one). The head of the label got pissed, and told Neil Young that he was signed to make a rock album. In response, Young put out a 50's style rockabilly album, which I actually think is pretty good. He gave the company what they asked for, just not what they wanted.


That is pretty much correct. They told him to put out a "Neil Young" album. It never occurred to them that there is no "Neil Young" album. And I actually loved Trans and say the solo tour he did with it. The version of "Mr. Soul" is great.



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
hmmm, there are quite a few follow-ups that I find disappointing, but I'm not sure about _most_ hated...

Orgy - "Punk Statik Paranoia" doesn't even come close to living up to the excellent "Vapor Transmission", but it's not the worst music I've ever heard in my life.

King Crimson's "The ConstruKction of the Light" is one of their worst albums since the band's re-boot in the 80s and definitely not as good as "Thrak" before it or "The Power to Believe" after it.

almost every album No Doubt put out after "Tragic Kingdom".

on the poptrance front, Ian Van Dahl - "Lost and Found" doesn't even come close to being an enjoyable as "Ace" does.






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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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    Originally posted by Kei Posiskunk
    King Crimson's "The ConstruKction of the Light" is one of their worst albums since the band's re-boot in the 80s and definitely not as good as "Thrak" before it or "The Power to Believe" after it.


And of course, that's the only King Crimson album I own.

Oh, and let us not forget another legendary shit-the-bed album: The Juliana Theory: Love. The first two songs were better than anything off of Emotion Is Dead, then "Shell Of A Man" starts up and kills EVERYTHING. Let's also not forget the entirely unnecessary reworking of "Into the Dark".



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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by drjayphd
      Originally posted by Kei Posiskunk
      King Crimson's "The ConstruKction of the Light" is one of their worst albums since the band's re-boot in the 80s and definitely not as good as "Thrak" before it or "The Power to Believe" after it.


    And of course, that's the only King Crimson album I own.

    Oh, and let us not forget another legendary shit-the-bed album: The Juliana Theory: Love. The first two songs were better than anything off of Emotion Is Dead, then "Shell Of A Man" starts up and kills EVERYTHING. Let's also not forget the entirely unnecessary reworking of "Into the Dark".


And in a fun twist of reciprocal irony, the one and only song by The Juliana Theory that I like is "Do You Believe Me" from the afforementioned album, "Love".






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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
If you talk to the people who run country radio, they'll think I'm nuts, but...

I've found everything Shania Twain's released after her self-titled debut album to be lacking in comparison.

Maybe it's because she's been shoved down our collective throats (here in Canada)...or maybe its because on her WOMAN IN ME disc, ten out of twelve tracks were released. Either way, media overexposure effectively killed off any interest in her by showing how dull her songwriting is, and how boring her videos and personality are.

If she would have just stuck with the Nashville way...which is release three or four tracks and then work on the next album, then maybe I'd feel differently.



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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
For me, the single most disappointing follow up I've ever been unfortunate enough to hear was the Dave Matthew's Band Everyday. To go from one of the best albums of the 90's in Before These Crowded Streets to utter shit in three years time is an abomination.


As for Pearl Jam, it's really not at all fair to claim that they intentionally put out bad music when hardly any of it was actually bad. Sure, their worst album is their final Sony effort, but I don't think it was intentional. Their best work, in my opinion, No Code came out in 1996, well after Ten and Vs.

And as if you care, this is how I, self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan, rank the albums:

No Code
Vitalogy
Ten
Pearl Jam
Vs.
Binaural
Yield
Riot Act


*shrug*



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
    And as if you care, this is how I, self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan, rank the albums:

    No Code
    Vitalogy
    Ten
    Pearl Jam
    Vs.
    Binaural
    Yield
    Riot Act


This is the great thing about Pearl Jam, their albums and even the songs on their albums are so varied and cross over into so many 'genres' that every fan of theirs has completely different opinions on their albums.

As for me (another "self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan") I've seen their album quality go in waves. Started off huge with Ten, dropped a bit with Vs and then to Vitalogy. Then it picked back up with No Code, and really picked it up with Yield, which is their best in my opinion. Binaural was a slight dropoff, followed by a huge dropoff with Riot Act, my least favorite. The new self-titled album has again reversed the trend and is quite awesome.

Some more entries for the thread in general:

Whatever album Marilyn Manson put out after Mechanical Animals was horrible. So horrible that after buying it I resold it in less than a week. I was a big fan of the previous two albums too.

Matchbox 20's 'Mad Season' wasn't nearly as good as 'Yourself of Someone Like You." I haven't heard anything since then, so I'm not sure if they got it back.

STP started off great with 'Core', then made an impresssive, if not as good, 2nd album with 'Purple', but then dropped off the face of the Earth for me with everything afterwards.

Someone else mentioned Creed, and I totally agree: Everything after 'My Own Prison' is crap.




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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.05
    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
    And as if you care, this is how I, self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan, rank the albums:


Pearl Jam albums are like children. I love each of them equally, but in different ways. There's no way I can rank one ahead of another.

But Vitalogy does seem to spend more time in time out than the others...



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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
      Originally posted by ManiacalClown
      And as if you care, this is how I, self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan, rank the albums:


    Pearl Jam albums are like children. I love each of them equally, but in different ways. There's no way I can rank one ahead of another.

    But Vitalogy does seem to spend more time in time out than the others...


I definitely love them all, even Riot Act, if only for the awesome cover art. :)




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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.86
    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
      Originally posted by EddieBurkett
        Originally posted by ManiacalClown
        And as if you care, this is how I, self-styled huge Pearl Jam fan, rank the albums:


      Pearl Jam albums are like children. I love each of them equally, but in different ways. There's no way I can rank one ahead of another.

      But Vitalogy does seem to spend more time in time out than the others...


    I definitely love them all, even Riot Act, if only for the awesome cover art. :)
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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
I don't know how I managed to miss this thread when it was new, but anyway...

In the early 80s there was a band called Roman Holliday...if you were into MTV New Wave at the time you'll probably remember "Stand By" and maybe "Don't Try To Stop It". (I suspect George Michael remembers the latter, as "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" seems to be heavily influenced by it.) Really enjoyed the single at the time, eventually bought a 12-ince for one of them that had a version of the other as a b-side, but I never got the album (Cookin' On The Roof) until I came across a copy being sold on the street for a dollar or so in the 90s. Took it home and fell in love with it. Searched for more by them for a long time.

One day I was at a flea market going through bins of cheap albums. The weather was lousy, and I considered giving up and going home, but I told myself, hey, there could be another Roman Holliday album here. Sure enough, in the next bin, there it was, their follow-up album.

It was produced by Mutt Lange, which pretty much cemented his standing in my eyes as the worst producer ever. I mean, bad enough to foist Bryan Adams, Def Leppard, and Shania Twain on the world, but he really removed everything I liked about the band. A couple of half-decent tracks, but a HUGE letdown.
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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.09
Yeah. How'd I miss this thread too.

From the eighties, Mr Mister's "Welcome to the Real World" scored three hits and was a lot of fun. Then they followed it up with the godawful "Go On" and were never heard from again.

In more modern times, Ingrid Michelson's "Girls and Boys" was such a quirky, lovely thing. Then she came out with "Everybody" and I was like, "Huh?" It didn't even sound like the same artist. And her third album simply should have never happened. Wow.
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