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#21 Posted on

    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    That whole thing made me feel awful for Molly. Yeah she`s a heel but picking on her for being the only normal-looking woman in WWE was going beyond heel-heat. I`m sure that made plenty of women out there feel good about themselves. :(


I think we've kind of established that the women's division isn't there for the female viewership... you know, unless they're lesbians or something.



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#22 Posted on
Yeah, I felt real ashamed for watching the show last night. I hate that feeling.

HOWEVER, if they bring in SIR MIX-A-LOT for Molly to make a huge face turn, it will ALL be worth it. Leroy, you are SO right.

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#23 Posted on
I still don't see it... Now, Sapphire -- THAT was a big ass.



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#24 Posted on

    Originally posted by zhixel
    I think we've kind of established that the women's division isn't there for the female viewership... you know, unless they're lesbians or something.


Three thoughts come to mind:

1) Not that there's anything wrong with that. (ba-dum-BUMP)

2) So much for the great Stephanie Oversees All The Writing Conspiracy. I believe that the LAST thing she'd want to encourage would be ridicule of anyone who's less-than-anorexic (since she'll be back on TV sooner or later).

3) "Hey, Vince, I have an idea. We're losing viewers every week, right? Let's do something with the Women's Champ that won't make the men like her any better, but pisses off many of the female viewers." "You're HIRED!"

Seriously. It's one thing if you have the late great Rhonda Singh out there, or someone of similar girth -- there's no DEBATING over whether it's a Cartmanesque ass on display. That's WHY she's out there. Last night's scene felt more like a bad Pretty in Pink outtake; the cheerleader (and her great-aunt) bashing the normal-looking girl with the Lisa Loeb CD in her backpack, because she doesn't starve herself and she's not blonde and perky and she doesn't have major implants and just because they CAN.

Isn't the "You hate me because I'm BEAUTIFUL and you're not" vibe... well... HEELISH? Trish and Terri did everything but break out Sable's Grind last night.

Then think on this: nobody's a heel forever in wrestling. At some point, Molly will turn face again and they'll want to re-Diva-ize her. How do you do that after carefully training Pavlov's dogs to chant "chunky ass" at her? (It's the same ass she had when she did the Diva video shoot the LAST time, and nobody complained then.)

Ugh.



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#25 Posted on
Speaking of Pretty in Pink, anybody else notice how they've been subtly redoing Molly Holly to make her look more like Molly Ringwald?



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
molly deserves better....at least there's a reason for a feud...to bad they couldn't come up with a better one. (but some how someone is going to blame austin =) )



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#27 Posted on
Personally, I think they are setting her up for a potential face push (I know, face refernce on an ass posting, har har). Think aboot this for a sec. Big booty is actually marketable in many demographs. Think Sir-Mix-A-Lot, Monster Booty, and many many other big booty gimmicks.

Right now, Trish is a face. So that means pretty much anything she says right now will be taken with a grain of salt, especially since she is referring to the top women's heel (since Jazz's injury). So, Trish = face...Molly = Heel.

But (no pun intended), they make Molly out to have this "larger than Diva" ass. She uses it in her matches (Molly-Go-Round, backspring ass slam into the corner), next thing you know, people are looking at her ass...Well, there are a lot of guys out there (and you know who you are) who like some cushin for the pushin. And Molly has that.

Well, we then end up with a Molly fan base (based on her unique look). Then she starts getting cheers for her ass. Then lo and behold, we have just set up a face push.

Combine that with the "snobby" attitude of Trish and Terri, and now you have a heel push to accompany the face push.

The only prob with that is, that would leave Molly as the only female face (who can wrestle) and Trish, Jazz and Ivory as heels (who can wrestle). Hmm, time to get the Jumping Bomb Angels back.
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#28 Posted on
Let me try to make sense of Trish's motivation in this, since mostly everyone else is pissed off.

Molly has recently turned herself into a pure, virtuous RTC-type, but most of the other women know better. Trish knows that Molly has copped a major attitude, and worse than that is the fact that Molly is only now calling Trish "trash" for participating in matches like the lingerie match. Molly seems to dislike the objectification of women.

Trish meanwhile knows that Molly wasn't always this way. Automatically, Trish sees the hypocritical nature of Molly's recent attitude change. Trish teaches Molly a lesson last week, by beating her at her own game and leaving the panties as a reminder that Trish is allowed to wrestle however she wants to because she is the women's champion and an individual capable of making her own decisions. This week, Trish sees that Molly has not come around, instead Molly is continuing her misguided crusade against the apparent degradation (even though she didn't have a problem with it before).

So Trish thinks about a deeper motivation behind Molly's actions. Suddenly it dawns on her. Maybe Molly is insecure about her own body (being that she is bigger than most of the girls) and covering up her insecurities by trying to force all the WWF divas to conform to her beliefs (beliefs that are brought on by the fact that she obviously does not think that she is pretty enough to be a true diva). So because Molly is projecting her low self-esteem on Trish, Trish decides to call her on it (using the healthy butt), and perhaps finally figure out if this is why Molly has turned.

Meanwhile, whether the self-esteem issue is true or not, Molly quickly saw that Trish was going to make an issue of Molly's rear, and she decided to show Trish just how the "big ass" can used to foil the naturally pretty Trish. This is perfect also because Molly can become the women's champion and really stick it to Terri and Trish.

This angle seems to me to be less about Trish's vanity and more about Trish trying to discover the motivations of former friend Molly. And Molly is happily beating these "pretty girls" at their own game by winning the women's title, and getting distinguished wrestlers like William Regal to see the virtuous side.

So sue me, I like the layers to this angle, even if I am over-analyzing the heck out of this.



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#29 Posted on

    Originally posted by ICEMAN
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    Terri,pleasant body type.....please

    I'll take Molly or Trish anyday



Wait Wait WAIT, I usually accept if one person misunderstands me. But this is too big a misread. I said Trish has been reduced in the last 3 weeks of nothing more then the Terri-character with a more pleasent body-type... Stating that Trish is the one with the nice more realistic body. I totally love the soft luv body types of Trish and Molly. Just really had to make that as clear as day.

Trish commenting on someone with a big booty didn't make sense, but atleast she didnt' look stupid long just an hour later Shawn Michaels' Rock stealing H's spotlight was just a bit more laughable.

vsp your number 3 point is so right on... Also I could live with a double switch in Trish and Molly, but we are giving WWE writers too much credit. They have no clue that the way Trish is acting the last 3 weeks is turning people off and thought she would be thought of as cool... Stupid writers.




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#30 Posted on
Hey, you wanna see something funny-

if you click on someone's profile in this thread, and this is the last thread the posted in it says

Last Post: 11.6.02 0859 in Molly's Ass


Sorry, but that's just too funny... or I have died and gone back to Jr High.

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#31 Posted on
Yeah...You're right...a double switch?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA, like they would actually do something that cool...and by cool I mean totally sweet!!! The last cool double switch that I could remember was Austin and Hart. But that was many moons ago, back when story lines made sense and wrestling was an actual focus...

Huh, where was I...For a second I thought the WWF/E writers actually gave a damn aboot longevity in stories...Oh well...Anyone up for another Ministry Gimmick?
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#32 Posted on
There is NOTHING wrong with Molly's ass. Or that prim new hairut. I think I, like Regal, find her attractive as a more classy kind of wench, and not like these two-bob scrubbers you see parading around every bloody Monday night.

Ahem, excuse me.



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#33 Posted on

    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher

      Originally posted by ICEMAN
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      Terri,pleasant body type.....please

      I'll take Molly or Trish anyday



    Wait Wait WAIT, I usually accept if one person misunderstands me. But this is too big a misread. I said Trish has been reduced in the last 3 weeks of nothing more then the Terri-character with a more pleasent body-type... Stating that Trish is the one with the nice more realistic body. I totally love the soft luv body types of Trish and Molly. Just really had to make that as clear as day.






Sorry,I misread your post,NET HACK SLASHER :)

(edited by ICEMAN on 11.6.02 1645)



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
I think it's makes for a pretty realistic fued. I would be willing to bet that 90% of all catfights start over one woman telling the other that she has a big ass.



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#35 Posted on
Torchslasher, it seems to me that that you are just drawing at straws in order to have this storyline not end up sucking. Trish trying to find out why Molly acts the way she does? Yeah right. No one in kayfabe land is even supposed to realize that there has been a turn at any time. Trish has always been face, Molly has always been heel, history that contridictes that is completely ignored... Oh, and then you claim that Trish is trying to help Molly's self-image by saying that she has a large butt? Oh, that makes PERFECT sense! Because when I find someone who has a body part that embarrass them, I immediately comment about how unusual and freakish it is! (sarcasm noted)

It's good that the writers at least know that they are doing something wrong, but the problem is that they are going in entirely the wrong direction to try and fix it. More body fluids and sex are NOT the answer!



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#36 Posted on

    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    It's good that the writers at least know that they are doing something wrong, but the problem is that they are going in entirely the wrong direction to try and fix it. More body fluids and sex are NOT the answer!


Which is one of the few times that that's true...





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#37 Posted on
Mr. Boffo, you don't think that after Molly and Trish have taken part in Divas' photo shoots, and Molly suddenly turns her back on that mentality, that people like Trish aren't going to wonder why Molly changed so drastically so quickly? Since women are more caring and feeling than men, I could see where Trish would feel betrayed and confused by Molly's turn. The writers don't HAVE to completely ignore that Molly is being hypocritical when talking about the "trashy" goings on by the divas. In fact they should have Trish and JR point this out.

And Trish isn't trying to "help" Molly out necessarily by pointing out her flaw, she is only trying to discover the deeper meaning behind Molly's recent actions. Molly isn't a stranger to Trish, so Trish is not just being rude for the sake of being rude. She is trying to understand the underline motivation from a former friendly colleague.









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#38 Posted on
I found that Trish telling Molly that her ass was as large as an apitheater was funny. And that it was said not just to insult Molly, but as a retaliatory verbal strike against Molly constantly calling Trish, basically, a whore. Of course, the whole reason that it was funny was because of Molly's reaction. It worked, for me anyway.

Bloody typos.

(edited by Fuzzy Logic on 11.6.02 2228)
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#39 Posted on
Even when Molly was a face, she was only treated like a half-ass (no pun intended) diva. She was never featured on the diva video commercials, and even when they had the diva special on UPN did no one else notice that she was kind of thrown in there?

She wasn't even on the beach with them for the photo shoot, I got a "we forgot about her, but so as not to hurt her feelings, let's throw her in at the last minute" vibe.

Personally amongst the divas here's how i see them

Terri, Tori, Trish, Dawn Marie, SaraTaker (hey she was in the video shoot for some reason) -- generic hot. I live in a college town and can see this kind of hot 100 times a day.

Molly -- more of a real woman

Ivory -- a hot girl that actually seems to have, you know -- a personality.

Stacey -- If she gets the boob job,then she will fall into my generic hot, i dont give a damn category. But as long as she stays like she is, i think she can bring something different (god forbid I use that work in describing the WWE product) to the diva table. Just keep her out of the ring.

Jackie -- well, i think if Jackie want me to say she was hot, she would beat it out of me and that is hot in and of itself.

Stephanie Mac -- seemed better before the job, now falls into the i try everything i can to be hot like the other girls category. But she is worth half a billion, so...........
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#40 Posted on

    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    Mr. Boffo, you don't think that after Molly and Trish have taken part in Divas' photo shoots, and Molly suddenly turns her back on that mentality, that people like Trish aren't going to wonder why Molly changed so drastically so quickly? Since women are more caring and feeling than men, I could see where Trish would feel betrayed and confused by Molly's turn. The writers don't HAVE to completely ignore that Molly is being hypocritical when talking about the "trashy" goings on by the divas. In fact they should have Trish and JR point this out.

    And Trish isn't trying to "help" Molly out necessarily by pointing out her flaw, she is only trying to discover the deeper meaning behind Molly's recent actions. Molly isn't a stranger to Trish, so Trish is not just being rude for the sake of being rude. She is trying to understand the underline motivation from a former friendly colleague.


If the plot goes this way I will be pleaseantly surprised, but I don't see it happening.



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