Originally posted by jfkfcSo if a writer thinks that no one on THIS LIST is HOF-worthy, then that automatically means that they should think that no one is HOF-worthy on THIS OTHER LIST?? The mere presence of Greg Maddux on THIS OTHER LIST should convince you otherwise....unless you're going with "If Piazza and Biggio don't get elected, then NO ONE should get elected." Then, while you might be completely silly, you'd at least be consistent.
I guess you could include Greg Maddux (and not Roger Clemens, who has similar career stats) because you assume that Maddux didn't use steroids. I hate getting into that game; I'm sure no one thought Andy Pettitte would have used PEDs, until it turned out that he did.
I was thinking the same thing. I don't know when Livan suddenly became a great pitcher this year. He's not even close to as good as he was in 2001 when he had 14 ERA in the World Series much less his years in Florida.