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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I've made an executive decision - everybody gets ONE post in this thread (except FLEA, of course). This is because by and large all the second posts have looked like people setting up to pick a fight, and I'm really not interested in seeing it here. It would also help if some of you realised that people aren't actually saying what you think they're saying, but we see that a lot...



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
Here's to hoping the "one post rule" takes affect starting with CRZ's warning and not prior. If not -- well, there's always the delete button.

Does anybody know exactly what "postponed" means in regards to the executions of Barzan Hassan, Hussein's half-brother, and Awwad Bandar, the former chief judge of the Revolutionary Court ? From what I understood, they were to hang alongside Saddam but the decision was changed late in the process in order to add historical weight to Saddam's death (he'd be alone and so on).

I mean... tomorrow, next week, next month, next year? I can't seem to find a clear indication anywhere as to their fates. Seems very strange to me, but then again the entire process hasn't exactly been textbook western judicial system so I shouldn't be surprised.

Likewise, any word yet on the appeal of former Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan's sentence (life imprisonment). An odd twist is that the appeal is by the appeals court for a stricter sentence (death), arguing that a life sentence was too lenient.

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Does anybody know exactly what "postponed" means in regards to the executions of Barzan Hassan, Hussein's half-brother, and Awwad Bandar, the former chief judge of the Revolutionary Court ? From what I understood, they were to hang alongside Saddam but the decision was changed late in the process in order to add historical weight to Saddam's death (he'd be alone and so on).

I mean... tomorrow, next week, next month, next year? I can't seem to find a clear indication anywhere as to their fates. Seems very strange to me, but then again the entire process hasn't exactly been textbook western judicial system so I shouldn't be surprised.

Likewise, any word yet on the appeal of former Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan's sentence (life imprisonment). An odd twist is that the appeal is by the appeals court for a stricter sentence (death), arguing that a life sentence was too lenient.


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"Mission Accomplished" means we got ours...remnants of 1991, or why GW was elected. Dead men tell no tales. For those of you that think that USA is guilty for putting him in power, read history. That's the way it goes. Politics. Sometimes the plan goes haywire and you MUST set an example. "The World is Safer...". Far be it from me to judge, or correct grammar...I ain't in charge of being too scared to drop a bomb. Why not Castro and a free Cuba is my only bitch


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One post, short and sweet. Both sides in this thread must understand that the whole issue of Iraq in the specific and the Middle East in general are beyond complicated. Both sides have valid points when not taken to the extreme. While it is a good thing that he is gone, it remains to be seen what the long-term effect is. The thing we must guard against is allowing emotion to overrule logic and facts. If we descend into emotional vitriol we start to look like our enemy.



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I just have two complaints with this:

1. They should have made him stand trial for everything. The fact that he officially gets blame for 147 deaths seems somehow lacking to me. I feel like the historical record is more muddied due to him no longer being able to speak.

2. The timing on this seems atrocious. Not only is this likely to further aggreive the Sunni community in Iraq, but apparently this was done during a Sunni holiday. It seems like the timing and manner of this was done specifically to spite to Sunni by the Shiites. And for once I don't really blame us, since from the news I've heard it sounds like the time of his execution was opposed by the U.S. but that the Iraq gov't went ahead. How true that is I don't know, but I suspect the U.S., for all of its inability to handle this situation, would not want to specifically piss off the Sunnis for no reason at all.

In the end Saddam forgot a basic rule: If you're going to be a tyrant backed by another country, you better never forget who put you in power. If you do, eventually they'll take you out. Politics is a dirty dirty business, and sometimes the only way out of it is at the end of a rope.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.65
You have to kill Saddam. It's the only way to take him out of the equation. "Life Imprisonment" means nothing in a country where the political situation is that chaotic. if the guy isn't actually dead there's a lot of situations where he could end up free, and even potentially in charge of the country in 5 years time.

Sure it's a kangaroo court, and we would find someway or another to kill the guy otherwise (I'm surprised we didn't end it when we found him and say he was shot during the mission or something). But politically it had to be done, and if it's got to happen, it's not like anyone's actually crying for the guy or anything.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    apparently this was done during a Sunni holiday


FWIW...

12/29 in the middle east, 12/30 in the US was Eid ul Adha, one of the two major holidays in Islam. (Regardless of the branch.) It's not the Ramadan/fasting one, it's the "Allah asked me [Ibraham] to sacrifice one of my two sons - ah, wait, no, he was just fooling. Let's all eat lamb!" one.

It's also the one that's a major part of the "Five Pillars"/"ten Branches" of Islam - Hajj. Every Muslim is supposed to visit the holy city of Mecca (Saudi Arabia) once in their life before and on the holiday, completing various rituals. They're estimating 3 million Muslims were there this year, all of whom would have plenty of time to discuss this matter.

And of course, most Muslim families who aren't traveling would be having a meal together, like anyone else would on a holiday.

(the lamb was tasty!)

(edited by thecubsfan on 3.1.07 0103)

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