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#21 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon

      The Democrats have plenty of respect for the Constitution; they just don't have respect for stuff you made up and pretended was in the Constitution.


    Didn't the Democrats make up the right to abortion and pretended was in the Constitution. Just asking....\

    Abortion is protected, albeit without being mentioned, by several clauses in Constitution, notably the "rights retained by the people" clause of the Ninth Amendment.

    When in doubt, the presumption is always in favor of the rights of the individual.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    Abortion is protected, albeit without being mentioned, by several clauses in Constitution, notably the "rights retained by the people" clause of the Ninth Amendment.

1. Is this then not stuff made up and pretend it is there.

2. Amazing how the right to kill the unborn is a "right of the individual" protected by the consitution but the right to bear arms, as clearly outlined in the 2nd Amendment, is not.

    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    When in doubt, the presumption is always in favor of the rights of the individual.

Really? I thought we were talking about Democrats not liberatarians.





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Peter The Hegemon
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#23 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
      Abortion is protected, albeit without being mentioned, by several clauses in Constitution, notably the "rights retained by the people" clause of the Ninth Amendment.

    1. Is this then not stuff made up and pretend it is there.

    >



If it is, then so is anything else covered by the Ninth Amendment. Which would render the Amendment meaningless.


    2. Amazing how the right to kill the unborn is a "right of the individual" protected by the consitution but the right to bear arms, as clearly outlined in the 2nd Amendment, is not.



      The right to bear arms is outlined by the Second Amendment, but also limited to the interest of "a well-regulated militia". Beyond that, I really don't want to get into it as it's one issue I have mixed feelings about.

      Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon

      When in doubt, the presumption is always in favor of the rights of the individual.

    Really? I thought we were talking about Democrats not liberatarians.




I'm talking about what's proper in the spirit of the Constitution. No party has a perfect record in that regard, although some are better than others.
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What I'd like to know is, how much of that is the stuff that we gave them in the first place. It's really easy to say "they've got chem/bio weapons" when you've still got your copy of the receipt.
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