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Zeruel
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I gave up on TNA a couple years ago and on ROH over the summer.

I was watching WWE since the night after Wrestlemania until Seamus was made the #1 contender where I deleted all WWE shows off my DVR.

Bret Hart coming back to WWE TV makes me excited to watch them again. Maybe it's because my GF is obsessed with all those reality TV shows (because of Bravo, I wouldn't be sad if Orange County sank into the ocean), but there aren't any more "Holy Shit!" moments on WWE TV anymore like are on those shows. Scripted or not, seeing Bret and Vince face to face on TV is a must see moment for me.

I don't want them to come back to CrashTV, but the fact that "nothing happens" anymore and every show is a build up to the next PPV and nothing earth shattering happens, has made me bored with their product. The guest host thing and who would be Jericho's co-champion had me interested, but it just got boring again.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    I was watching WWE since the night after Wrestlemania until Seamus was made the #1 contender where I deleted all WWE shows off my DVR.
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    I don't want them to come back to CrashTV, but the fact that "nothing happens" anymore and every show is a build up to the next PPV and nothing earth shattering happens, has made me bored with their product.
Sheamus becoming #1 contender and subsequently winning the title was an unexpected happening. I wouldn't call it the holy shit moment of a lifetime or anything, but I didn't see it coming. I didn't even see it coming when Cena went through the table - I kept waiting for it to be overturned for some reason.

But regardless, a big problem with WWE - and this isn't even entirely their fault - is that there are almost no more "holy shit" moments to be had. Bret coming back is a huge one, and I really hope it works out well for him. But aside from that, what's left? WCW and ECW are dead. TNA and ROH really don't matter on any kind of significant scale. Hogan, Goldberg, Flair, Bischoff, Foley, Austin - they've all gone to (or gone back to) WWE after it was said they'd never be brought in (or brought back). There are nearly 30 hours of first-run WWE TV to fill every month. There are a billion titles that all change hands too frequently. They're toning down the most dangerous and spectacular spots and bumps (which is a good thing, but still). Really, what can they do that we haven't seen before?



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
My problem with Seamus being the #1 contender (and champ) was that I, like alot of others, felt it was so undeserved. I watched him on ECW and I wasn't impressed. I don't like his look, his voice, his promos, his moveset, I just don't like anything about him.

My fears came true when he was made champ, and I'm just not interested in watching Raw to see Cena chase someone who traded wins with Goldust only a few weeks ago.

I would have been ok with MVP, Swagger, Kofi, The Miz, or any of the other upper midcard getting the title shot (and belt) then a guy who hasn't been on TV that long and was handed the belt.

If this were the mid-late 90s and they hotshotted the title on X-Pac, I'd at least watch to see who crushes him for the title. With Seamus, I just don't care. And the fact he beat Cena means that he will be Seamus' PPV opponent and we're back to square one again if Cena wins. I'll gladly keep the WWE off my DVR until Bret appears. To me, they're just treading water until then.

For the last 4-6 weeks, I was just watching out of habit, and even then I could watch a show in 10 mins or less because I was just FF'ing through them all.

(edited by Zeruel on 17.12.09 1606)


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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
It wouldn't shock me if this ended poorly for somebody.

Will I tune in? Probably, but I can't say that I'm really excited about it. I guess it's nice to see somebody bury the hatchet and move on, but I also would have been fine with Bret carrying the grudge until the end.

I guess part of the problem I have is that I always liked heel Bret more than hero/face Bret. It'll be weird though, and I guess that is worth the ticket alone.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.47
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Bret also said in his interview with Meltzer that he thought the DVD they were doing wasn't necessarily a Hart Foundation DVD but one about the Hart family, which means there will be a ton of Owen Hart stuff on it. That's pretty much the best way to handle it since doing an Owen Hart DVD would just be too uncomfortable.


Isn't any Hart Family DVD going to be squeamish, given the fates of the extended family:

Bret - early retirement
Owen - RIP
Davey - RIP

Hart Family associates

Bulldog - crippled
Pillman - RIP
Benoit -




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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Oh, man. I read that and pictured the documentary doing a long sad montage of the fallen, then suddenly cutting to uplifting music with Jim Neidhart staring right into the camera.

YEAH BABY YEAH BABY HYAA HA HA HA HA HA

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.82
For what it's worth, I haven't watched RAW since The Ill-Advised Chris Benoit Memorial Spectacular and stopped watching regularly in 2005. I'll watch the January 4 RAW and anything it leads to, including PPVs.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.58
    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Bret also said in his interview with Meltzer that he thought the DVD they were doing wasn't necessarily a Hart Foundation DVD but one about the Hart family, which means there will be a ton of Owen Hart stuff on it. That's pretty much the best way to handle it since doing an Owen Hart DVD would just be too uncomfortable.


    Isn't any Hart Family DVD going to be squeamish, given the fates of the extended family


True but I think The Great Dead Harts is less awkward than The Rise and Fall of Owen Hart Who We Killed On Our PPV.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.03
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    My problem with Seamus being the #1 contender (and champ) was that I, like alot of others, felt it was so undeserved. I watched him on ECW and I wasn't impressed. I don't like his look, his voice, his promos, his moveset, I just don't like anything about him.

    My fears came true when he was made champ, and I'm just not interested in watching Raw to see Cena chase someone who traded wins with Goldust only a few weeks ago.

    I would have been ok with MVP, Swagger, Kofi, The Miz, or any of the other upper midcard getting the title shot (and belt) then a guy who hasn't been on TV that long and was handed the belt.

    If this were the mid-late 90s and they hotshotted the title on X-Pac, I'd at least watch to see who crushes him for the title. With Seamus, I just don't care. And the fact he beat Cena means that he will be Seamus' PPV opponent and we're back to square one again if Cena wins. I'll gladly keep the WWE off my DVR until Bret appears. To me, they're just treading water until then.

    (edited by Zeruel on 17.12.09 1606)


Really, how is Shaemus winning the belt any different than when Goldberg was elevated?
Neither has a wrestling background. Neither has more than 7 moves, neither can work the mic. But Goldberg was somehow an unstoppable monster who people wanted to see win, whereas Shaemus was an unstoppable big man who nobody cared about.

Either way, it's the same situation really. Neither really beat anybody on the way up, and both got titles they really didn't deserve.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Really, how is Shaemus winning the belt any different than when Goldberg was elevated?
    Neither has a wrestling background. Neither has more than 7 moves, neither can work the mic. But Goldberg was somehow an unstoppable monster who people wanted to see win, whereas Shaemus was an unstoppable big man who nobody cared about.


Dude, you just answered your own question. People LIKED Goldberg. He was built up over time. He was OVER.

Yes, the undefeated streak was inflated numerically and padded with as many curtain jerkers as WCW had under employment in 1997 and 1998. Regardless, the people LIKED Goldberg. They took to him. And WCW gave him the time, week in and week out, to get over and become a star. When he finally ran into Hogan in the Georgia Dome, Goldberg had squashed enough people in over a year and was popular enough that the fans BELIEVED he could do the same to Hogan. (WCW also gave Goldberg the US Title before he beat Hogan, so he did climb the ladder.)

So it's not the same situation at all with Sheamus, who is not over, not liked (I know, he's a heel so he's supposed to be booed), never won or even wrestled for the IC or US titles, and considering how he showed up on RAW and a few weeks later became WWE Champion, he's not credible.

(edited by John Orquiola on 17.12.09 2128)
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.83
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Neither has a wrestling background.


Uh... (onlineworldofwrestling.com)

The whole 2005-2007 pre-FCW bit's too long to copy and paste, but... yeeeeeeeeeeah. Seven years of experience before winning the title apparently isn't a wrestling background.





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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
Goldberg also looked scarier, but mostly it's what John said. They built Goldberg up, and he totally caught on. Whether you like what they did with Sheamus or not, it's not a similar situation.

Weird for me that I'll be on vacation when Jan. 4 rolls around, so I'll miss the whole night. Oh, well...
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.03
    Originally posted by drjayphd


    The whole 2005-2007 pre-FCW bit's too long to copy and paste, but... yeeeeeeeeeeah. Seven years of experience before winning the title apparently isn't a wrestling background.


Well, perhaps it's just his inability to do anything in the ring past a punch, kick, elbow, and power slam that had me thinking he was talentless. And, if he did spend 7 years "paying dues" it has yet to show in his in ring talent.
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