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#1 Posted on
Let us see. The year after Maurice Vaughn left Boston, the Red Sox made the League Championship series. The year after Maurice Vaughn left the Angels, the Angels appear to have a good chance to make the playoffs. Gee Mo, these teams really missed you, but then again, its Not About the Money, now, Was It?
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I like Mo, in fact I wish he was still with the Red Sox. I think Daubach is good but he's really a bench player, plus he is to streaky. Tony Clark totally sucks at the plate. My opinion is that Ricky Henderson should be at 1st base.(Gotta love Ricky) You do have a piont about Mo making too much money, but who in baseball doesn't. However I did enjoy Vaughn with the Red Sox, rember he was an MVP.

(edited by Chico Santana on 19.8.02 1210)


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And Mike Greenwell finished second in the M.V.P. voting in 1988, that doesn't mean that I didn't dislike him as well. I would cut Clark though, and it should be Baerga at first base, not Ricky.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    And Mike Greenwell finished second in the M.V.P. voting in 1988, that doesn't mean that I didn't dislike him as well. I would cut Clark though, and it should be Baerga at first base, not Ricky.


You DISLIKE #39? Whyever so? The man holds, or at least held, the record for game-winning RBI in a single season! Greenwell kept the Sox' proud tradition alive in left field, and once called his teammates "wimps and fairies" for not participating in a brawl.



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    And Mike Greenwell finished second in the M.V.P. voting in 1988, that doesn't mean that I didn't dislike him as well. I would cut Clark though, and it should be Baerga at first base, not Ricky.


Agree wholeheartedly on the personnel moves, but at least give Clark credit for somehow not sucking defensively at first. Maybe he's making those plays because he's 6'7", but he is doing better than he has any right to play, at least when the other team's hitting.
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#6 Posted on
Speaking of Tony Clark, are there any ex-Tigers who are actually contributing? Jeff Weaver (bullpen, yeah that is why the Yanks traded Lilly for him), Cedeno, Clark, Moehler, Todd Jones....have mercy on the team that decides "Now batting for the [team name here], Booooooooobbbbby Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiggenson."



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09
Buddy Groom is still rocking in the O's bullpen. Juan Encarnacion is having a good year in Florida still. Other than that, I don't think I can even name that many former tigers.
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#8 Posted on
Not to nitpick, but Encarnacion came to the Marlins from the Reds, and Groom hasn't been on the Tigers since '95 (more of an ex-A than an ex-Tiger).

The only player I can think of that had mild success as an ex-Tiger was Jose Lima, but since it was for the Astros, it shouldn't count, since all players on the Tigers come from the Astros, or get traded there and back at some point.

Come to think of it, HoJo came to the Mutts from the Tigers.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09
Uh...it's not like Encarnacion has spent a lot of time away from Detroit....

Season TM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1997 Det 11 33 3 7 1 1 1 5 3 12 3 1 .212 .316 .394 .710
1998 Det 40 164 30 54 9 4 7 21 7 31 7 4 .329 .354 .561 .915
1999 Det 132 509 62 130 30 6 19 74 14 113 33 12 .255 .287 .450 .737
2000 Det 141 547 75 158 25 6 14 72 29 90 16 4 .289 .330 .433 .763
2001 Det 120 417 52 101 19 7 12 52 25 93 9 5 .242 .292 .408 .700
2002 Cin 83 321 43 89 11 2 16 51 26 63 9 4 .277 .330 .474 .804
2002 Fla 34 119 14 23 5 1 2 11 11 25 8 2 .193 .273 .303 .576
2002 -- 117 440 57 112 16 3 18 62 37 88 17 6 .255 .315 .427 .742
Total -- 561 2110 279 562 100 27 71 286 115 427 85 32 .266 .311 .440 .751
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Speaking of Tony Clark, are there any ex-Tigers who are actually contributing? Jeff Weaver (bullpen, yeah that is why the Yanks traded Lilly for him), Cedeno, Clark, Moehler, Todd Jones....have mercy on the team that decides "Now batting for the [team name here], Booooooooobbbbby Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiggenson."



Some guy named Gonzalez has had a few good years in Arizona since the Tigers traded him.



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#11 Posted on
    Originally posted by Grimis
    Uh...it's not like Encarnacion has spent a lot of time away from Detroit

Granted, but he is technically more of an ex-Red than an ex-Tiger....for the purpose of me spinning this useless data, anyway, since it has nothing really to do with Meet the Mets, Greet the Mets, Come on Everbody Beat the Mets.


    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Some guy named Gonzalez has had a few good years in Arizona since the Tigers traded him.


Ah, one season. I guess he didn't let the shitty Detroit mystique rub off on him. All I was originally trying to say was: Gee golly, there sure are many players who, coming directly from the Tigers, sure suck for their new teams! I probably should have clarified that, but hey, I like painting with broad strokes.

(edited by jfkfc on 20.8.02 1404)

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#12 Posted on
as a Mets fan.....August 30 can't get here soon enough for me



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.09
At least nobody really tried to throw the Tigers under the bus and mention the name "John Smoltz."
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#14 Posted on
If I was a Tiger fan I would be more pissed with the all-star type players that just sucked ass when they were with Deroit(Jaun "Gone" Gonzalez, and Hideo Nomo). And I would be happy with Ex-Tiger players sucking ass for some other club.

P.S. Mike Greenwell f*#king rocked! Baerga is a better leader, but he can't hit or run like Ricky.



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#15 Posted on
Deivi Cruz has been pretty consistent for the Padres this year. He's not a superstar, but he hasn't sucked after leaving the Tigers.

(edited by Guru Zim on 20.8.02 1137)


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#16 Posted on
As a Braves fan,I'm happy the way the Mets season has turned out.It shut up alot of the people who were running their yaps about the Mets and how they were gonna destroy the Braves this year.





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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by Chico Santana
    If I was a Tiger fan I would be more pissed with the all-star type players that just sucked ass when they were with Deroit(Jaun "Gone" Gonzalez, and Hideo Nomo). And I would be happy with Ex-Tiger players sucking ass for some other club.

    P.S. Mike Greenwell f*#king rocked! Baerga is a better leader, but he can't hit or run like Ricky.




Ricky's hitting .240 and Baerga is hitting about .320.



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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation

      Originally posted by Chico Santana
      If I P.S. Mike Greenwell f*#king rocked! Baerga is a better leader, but he can't hit or run like Ricky.



    Ricky's hitting .240 and Baerga is hitting about .320.



Career Satistics before this year.

Baerga AVG .291 R 659 H 1400 HR 124 RBI 686 BB 253 SB 52

Henderson AVG .280 R 2248 H 3000 HR 290 RBI 1094 BB 2141
SB 1395

I see you didn't compare their Stolen Bases. Career Ricky has 1343 more SB's. If you give Ricky the chance he is more productive at the plate.
Carlos Baerga 2001
Played 53 games in the Independent Atlantic League for the Long Island Ducks and hit .315(64-203) with nine home runs and 44 RBI...Selected to the 2001 Atlantic All-Star Team.
2000 DNP.
1999 Released by St. Louis in spring training signed by Cincinnati and played AAA Indianapolis.
Asked for and was granted his release, signed w/ San Diego and played w/ AAA Las Vegas.
Promoted to San Diego...hit .167,1 HR,and 1 RBI as a pinch hitter.
Aquired by Cleveland. Hit .241,3 HR, 10 RBI, in 55 MLB games.

Oh no, wait. Your right, and I am mistaken. Baerga has been lighting up the league the last 3 years! Baerga for MVP!



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#19 Posted on
Oh come on now.

I could post up the career statistics of Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb and argue that their corpse would be a better lead-off hitter than Baerga using your logic.

You have to look at Rickey's ability TODAY when you make a comparison. Otherwise it's not fair.

I don't have an opinion in this argument, but I wanted to point out that your logic was flawed.



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#20 Posted on
I was pointing out how Ricky has stayed in the Major Leagues
the last couple of years and Baerga has been all over the place. And as a Red Sox fan I would take the corpse of the Babe or Ty Cobb at first, they could show better production in that spot than has been shown this year. So if you got the shovel, I got the time. Plus, I was showing all around production value. Baerga may have a higher batting Avg. this year, but that won't show offensive possibilities. If they need a stolen base Zim who would you put in to Run?
I'm not knockin' Baerga(He is a good clubhouse guy and good in the field), I just like the options Ricky can bring to the plate.

Edit: I don't think at this time any are better than the "Hit Dog" Mo Vaughn.

(edited by Chico Santana on 20.8.02 1758)


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