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Since: 30.9.03 From: Mean Streets of Canada
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| #41 Posted on 30.1.04 1142.34 | Instant Rating: 0.32 | To blatantly kick someone in the face full force doesn't teach "respect", that's being a bully, plain and simple.
Don't get me wrong though, I have no problem with a wrestler teaching some respect, but there are better ways, like stretching them with snug submission holds for example. We all remember what Regal did to Goldberg on Nitro, right? That's all you need. Just enough punishment to let them know who's boss without leaving any scars or injuries.
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Since: 26.1.03 From: Naples, FL
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| #42 Posted on 30.1.04 1223.04 | Instant Rating: 3.19 | Originally posted by Ta2grrl
Originally posted by geemoney I hate to bring up this Bob Holly stuff again, but wasn't he in the match where DDP screwed up his back and had to retire?
So DDP screws up and...once again...Hardcore is blamed
Where in that quote did I blame Holly?
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Since: 25.12.03 From: "Holly"wood
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| #43 Posted on 30.1.04 1418.40 | Instant Rating: 1.51 | Sorry gm...you seemed to be implying...by the nature of your comment...that Holly had something to do with DDP's injury above and beyond just being in the match with him...I assumed that you brought it up to suggest that Holly was a trouble-maker in his matches...I apologise if you did not
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Since: 17.11.03 From: Aransas Pass TX
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| #44 Posted on 30.1.04 1548.34 | Instant Rating: 0.88 | Originally posted by LotusMegami
In reply to mercer - there is a very clear line between "training" and "abuse." It all depends on the motive.
Take Stu Hart as an example of a harsh taskmaster. Did he cause pain? Hell yeah. Did he injure his students? Not according to what any of them said on Confidential. Pain and injury are two very different things.
On the other side of the line you have bullies who try to "teach respect" to kids who "haven't paid their dues." Holly's own comments reveal that his purpose is not to give the rookies some tough love - it's to punish them for having it easier than he did.
Wrestlers *have* to trust each other. They put their lives in each other's hands. There are some things that they simply cannot do, and deliberately causing injury is one of them.
I'd like to give Holly the benefit of the doubt, but if I were booking, I would keep him away from the rookies.
I know wrestlers have to trust each other, as i said im a trainee and almost a wrestler now, so i know this. What i was referring to was the Matt Cappatelli injury from TE3. I thought it was fine at the time, but with him trying to kill all the rooks now i think someone getting stiff with him is fine!
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Since: 22.4.02 From: Connecticut
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| #45 Posted on 31.1.04 0149.03 | Instant Rating: 6.72 | You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.
"Orton's facials were perfect, I must say." (Ringmistress)
Originally posted by Jaguar The solution would've been easier a couple years ago. Perry Saturn vs Bradshaw vs Bob Holly vs RVD. No DQ.
Four men enter. One man leaves.
-Jag
RVD? When'd he stiff people? Or would he just blow spots like Jeff Hardy?
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| #46 Posted on 31.1.04 0200.53 | Instant Rating: 4.22 | He busted nearly everyone on the WWE roster open the hard way when he first showed up there. Then Kurt Angle's wife complained about him, or something. I don't think it was ever intentional, though.
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Since: 22.4.02 From: Connecticut
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| #47 Posted on 31.1.04 0244.13 | Instant Rating: 6.72 | You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.
"Orton's facials were perfect, I must say." (Ringmistress)
Originally posted by eviljonhunt81 He busted nearly everyone on the WWE roster open the hard way when he first showed up there. Then Kurt Angle's wife complained about him, or something. I don't think it was ever intentional, though.
Ah, yes, that's right. Remember that. Anyway, take him out of the proposed four-way, toss 'em in a cage, and spread blasphemous rumors amongst (and about) the remaining three to taste.
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Since: 22.9.03 From: Easton, md
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| #48 Posted on 31.1.04 1931.23 | Instant Rating: 0.79 | I remember towards the end of the Invasion maybe, or right after. Rvd broke Kurt's nose with a kick. Never heard of his wife complaining though, but I dont doubt it.
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