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Click Here (mattitude.wwe.com)I really didn't mind JBL commentary against the net, I saw what he was doing and I took if for what it was. I found this to be a lot worse and much more insulting.

I enjoy the Internet, but Iím not a fan of constant negativity when it comes to our business. Iím aware of the fact that the Internet wrestling community is slightly influential in the progression of the wrestling business. Thatís cool by me -- it could and should help the business expand and get better. You would think anyone in the business or a fan of the business would do their best to build upon the positives. My biggest gripe is the negativity the Internet is breeding due to people being desensitized and one-dimensional when it comes to our product. I want the "wrestling negativity snowball" to stop, or at least slow down for the good of the entire sports-entertainment business. Too many people read someoneís opinion on the Internet and take it as factual information. Itís way too often that the majority of the Internet wrestling community takes a writerís view and lazily allows that to become their view. My challenge to all of you is to question opinions. Donít take opinions as facts; donít even take them as good opinions. Come to your own conclusions. If you find something enjoyable that others donít, that doesnít mean youíre wrong in liking it.

A majority of Internet writers are one-dimensional when it comes to their opinions on the wrestling business. The main concern to many who cover or comment about wrestling on the Internet is the in-ring product. If the matches on a show arenít long enough, arenít athletic enough, or donít score high enough on their ratings system, then the show was no good to them. Thatís not the case. Iím a huge fan of the in-ring product, but Iíve learned thatís not the only thing our broad fan base cares about. The majority of our fans like wrestling, but they also enjoy the entertainment aspect that only WWE provides. Vince McMahonís sports-entertainment theory obviously works because weíre the dominate force in the wrestling business that has outlasted every other organization.

Quick example: A portion of the Internet writers dislike the current Matt-Lita-Kane saga, but every week it is one of the most-watched segments of the show and gets a ton of feedback and reaction. As of this morning, myself and Kane were the most anticipated match on the show Sunday according to fan votes on WWE.com. Obviously, there is interest in our conflict that has people talking and watching.

Quick example No. 2: A portion of the Internet writers donít think Lita is that great of a WWE performer or asset to the company. For whatever reasons, they arenít Lita fans, whether it is her in-ring skills or character or whatever. Youíre wrong. She is the most popular and successful woman currently in the wrestling business. Success isnít measured solely by how great of a wrestler you are. Never has been, never will be. She is talented in so many ways that some people just donít know and canít see from the surface. Go to WWEShopZone.com, pull down the Superstars menu, and look how many girls have their own merchandise section. Thereís only one, and thatís Lita. Do some research and find out which female has had the most action figures made of them. Look at the number of Lita signs in the crowd every week during RAW. I could give you examples all night. These are the things that ultimately determine how successful and popular you are. Lita attracts people far and wide, and has brought more new fans to the WWE than any other Diva.

Until someone has worked within the sports-entertainment business, they really have no idea how things work and what makes things successful. There are many aspects of the wrestling business that only people on the inside understand. Itís impossible to be on the outside of this business and understand how everything works within it. My main objective is to educate anyone who follows the wrestling business into being open-minded. Donít be so narrowed-minded that you only see things from one viewpoint. To attempt to understand and fairly view our product, you have to be able to think outside the lines. You have to be able to see the full spectrum, the big picture, not just one point of view.

If you disagree with everything Iíve said and you think you know everything there is to know about the wrestling business, I have a challenge for you. If you have all the right answers of what would make a wrestling company successful, start your own company. With your superior knowledge of the wrestling business, your promotion should be competing with WWE in no time. Put your money where your mouth is. And before you say that suggestion is ridiculous, I did it before I even knew how the business really worked. I started and ran the small OMEGA promotion before I worked with WWE. Iím sure I would have an organization of my own right now if I didnít work for the McMahons


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The first paragraph he wrote is insulting. Am I wrong or has Raw on the most part been very complimentary by most. People are still on cloud 9 as Benoit has the big gold belt. Eugene who looked liked a huge disaster when first announced but on the most part the net warmed up to it. People seem to like Evil Trish. Even Evolution seems to be getting more praise as HHH character is showing more depth & Randy Orton finally showing the potential that the WWE saw. Not everyone see's these all as positives, but many do. To make such generalizations really makes him out to be an ass. He's call us sheep, the irony considering his fan base... How funny how HE HIMSELF said "He didn't like this storyline but trying to make the best out of it" on The Law, so we are wrong for not enjoying this storyline. Wow it's voted tops on the WWE.com poll, amazing! What a tool.

Oh look a "quick example" by defending Lita. You got to love how he buries all the women so he can build up his talentless gal. I'm not surprise, you read any Lita interviews, her book, WWE interviews, main stream interviews. She only talks about herself & knock everyone down. How SHE's special, how SHE's unique, how she is so god damn different, therefore saying everyone else is just generic, paint by numbers, nameless faces. Fuck you Lita, and your high horse you came in... Saying all these other women aren't as important as Lita because they don't have chantable name, or their own section on shopzone. What makes this even more sad is that every other woman on the Raw roster are such team players & in interviews compliment each other & talk about the importance of the group, they even mention the talentless hag Lita few qualities, but she & her P-whipped boyfriend puts them down.

If Matt can get his head out of Lita's ass for a second, he might notice there are other women in the company. He whines about people not being "Lita fans" you're right I'm not, We are WRESTLING FANS, I personally like the division as a "whole" if I see someone ruining or spoiling "the whole" then I will comment on her negatively and I don't give a flying phuck how many action figures she sold... It's funny how his only defense of her is her marketing image, that's all, yet he brushes off the criticism as unfair. I don't know, a wrestler who comes off as lazy, unmotivated, with horrible and dangerous wrestling, who hasn't helped anyone get over ever. To add on to that her piss poor attitude towards her co-worker (where Matt confirmed right now). She should work on those things & not count signs in the crowd, she might get more respect

He also a hypocrite, he's so quick to put himself over his brother when Jeff was having problems saying "Jeff isnít' focused, doesn't really take it seriously. I've always been the stable & believed in substance as Jeff was more style & had the image". Now he's talking about his little f*ck friend it's style always over substance making Lita the most "successful woman currently in the wrestling"
... Speaking of Jeff, didn't he get released despite selling 50 times more junk then Lita. How about even Stone Cold! You know the most marketable man ever in wrestling who Lita (or any other diva) can't hold a candle to was let go as Vince said himself "He's popular & his image of what he was still sells, but for a company it's hard to keep pushing someone like Austin with his condition". Not only men but women like Chyna & Sable were released when they were on top because of their attitude.

We all hear about you can't criticize wrestling unless you work in it, good ol' Matt goes one step further saying you can't criticize wrestling unless you have your own fed, really what a piece of crap this guy is. Wow he did his Carolina company with graduates like Amy Dumas who "is talented in so many ways that some people just donít know" (yeah a bet). I was going to buy Vengeance but I better not, need to save my nickels so I can start up my own wrestling company. Is it there goal to make people not want to support your company anymore, BTW I'm seriously I'm not getting Vengeance because of Matt's ignorant commentary... I personally can't stand either of them. I do get a feeling that Lita rubs off negatively on Matt, but still he can grow a spine. He said he might need surgery, hope he can grow a backbone and get his head out of Lita's ass during that period.


(edited by Net Hack Slasher on 11.7.04 1815)

(edited by Net Hack Slasher on 11.7.04 2003)

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.68
This stings a little more than the JBL rant, if only because I'd say most on the 'net actually LIKE Matt Hardy.

What happened to "ignoring" the internet?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher
    Donít take opinions as facts; donít even take them as good opinions. Come to your own conclusions.








I guess that means, if we interpret Matt literally, we are encouraged to hate Lita and this angle, as we have come to this conclusion on our own, without having his self-interested opinion sway us.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
I posted this over at 411 and have no intention of re-writing the same thoughts:

I dunno, I consider myself a rational and logical mind when it comes to discussing and analysing wrestling. I have every intention of giving it a try when I can get my hands on the cash. But yet, I'm constantly told by wrestlers with net presence that my opinion counts for nothing because I haven't experienced what they've gone through. Ugh, guys, I fully intend to do so and what, as a facet of entertainment, gives you the right to tell me that I'm wrong for not being entertained by the product?

That's why I don't like blanket statements like Matt Hardy's columns. He just addresses the IWC alone, which is bullshit considering his only base for argument came from reading a few Scherer columns and browsing around a couple of message boards with kids determined to become the next Meltzer. I take exception to being told that I'm WRONG for pointing out that the Lita pregnancy angle is something that doesn't entertain me, even if it IS the highest rated Raw segment.

This whole IWC vs. WWE war should never be happening in the first place. Seriously, for any person in the spotlight to come out and blast anyone who says they don't enjoy what they do is highly unprofessional, and if I was Vince I'd be pretty embarrassed that my employees are engaging in a war of text with a large chunk of the company's fanbase.

However, IF I had to choose a writer who was the best at handling criticism, believe it or not it would be Bradshaw. If anyone saw the 'questionable sexual orientation' comment by JBL as anymore than an attempt to rile up his detractors, then place yourself in the same category of people who send Hyatte seven-page diatribes calling him a racist after he makes one of his (CANADIAN) jokes. When he actually gets down to the points at hand in addressing criticism levelled at him, put away your bias for the moment and realise that the man is making a ton of sense. He clarifies who he is talking to before he makes his point, and if you find yourself still angered by his comments and having the urge to head to your nearest message board and blast him, then chances are he's struck a chord.

BUT, I'm digressing. Point is: entertainers blasting those who say they aren't entertained by them are entertainers who have their priorities fucked. The reason I like JBL is that by reading him you can clearly see he DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK. He just enjoys pissing his critics off and proving them wrong. The likes of Matt Hardy are those who I suspect care too much about how they come off to their fanbase and immediately turn defensive when there's no need to rather than working on pleasing them. That's my take anyway.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.87
Matt inspired me to write last night and I banged out my Phantom Lord vs. Matt Hardy column over on LOP in under two hours.

Which is pretty fast considering It might take me upwards of four sometimes with the way I write and stop and write.

Last night was just me writing full speed ahead on Matt.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2004_/articles/1089512396.php

I think I took him to task and shot him down on the negative net writer gimmick.

With that said, should I order the ppv after all tonight I will be looking foward to him being left in a pool of his own blood.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.26
Man has a point, if you ignore all the self serving drivel (but come now, were you expecting him to go into a "my own angle sucks and Lita can't properly do a moonsault" rant?). There IS a huge trend in the IWC to pretend stuff that honestly does make money at the merchandise stand no matter how much you may hate it (Hogan, the legions and legions of Hardy Boyzzzzzz teenyboppers buying their merch long after the gimmick died with Jeff's career for example) should be killed and buried, strictly because it's popular to declare that stuff like that should be killed and buried

Also could ramble for ages here on how everyone seemed to leap upon Mordecai and declared him the next Nathan Jones about as soon as Scott Keith made his cute "well they tried, but failed. Fire him" comment in his rant for the guy's FIRST MATCH, but I shall not ~_^

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.68
I do agree with Matt too a point. I agree the net thinks its the beginning and ending of what wrestling fans want, but that is hardly the case. However after watching Brock/Goldberg at Wrestlemania XX, I don't think we are the 1 to 5 percent of the wrestling fans. I do like the Matt/Kane/Lita angle, because its at least doing something that has nothing to do with Eugene or Evolution for now.

I just think wrestlers have to come to the conclusion that the net is here to stay. We are going to have our own opinions about stuff, I hate Bradshaw, HHH, Orton, Eugune and the GMs, but I love the rest of the roster. I maybe influenced by the net, but to honest I have hated HHH and Bischoff before I knew what the net was. Sometimes, its good to see other people's opinoins about stuff, it doesn't mean they are brainwashing you, they may see it in a better light. I think Matt does make some good points, but ultimatly I think he maybe too close to the problem to rationally judge it.

I think the wrestlers should also take into consideration most of the time its the writing we have a problem with and not them. Some wrestlers get ripped to shreds before they are given a chance ie Mordeci and some get ripped to shreds because they are popular with the fans like Cena, RVD and Rock and wrestling fans like rooting for the underdog no matter if its face or heel. We hate storylines, because we knew wrestlers like Matt, Kane, Benoit, Eddie and Cena should be given tools to work with. I love the WWE, but there are days where I wonder if it loves me back.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.73
I don't see how you can call it "self serving drivel". I mean, look at EVERYONE'S posts here! Almost every one is about what *I* think, what *I* like, and what *I* think they should do to improve the show. And it's said in a way as if we are speaking the gospel and there is no way that we could possible be wrong about anything coming out of our mouths. We're insulted at the idea that someone could have a different point of view than ours. We all do it at some point, myself included. Maybe there's a couple people who are able to think openly and accept that not every single goddamned segment of WWE programming is being catered to their needs, and they're going to have to accept the Torrie/Sable matches, but it doesn't happen often.

Everything Matt said was true. Nothing was 'insulting' unless you absolutely believe that your opinion is right and thought of by everyone, and having him disagree with you just brought your whole world crashing down.

As if Matt needed to prove his point, just go through this board (which is one of the absolute most positive ones on the net) and keep track of how many times people bitch about something the WWE is doing compared to how many times people say they like something the WWE is doing.

If you want more some proof that Matt knows what he's talking about, just read the first few posts here where facts are twisted to show that technical wrestling really is the greatest think in Vince's WWE plan. Austin was released because they couldn't push him in his condition? Sure. I bet that it had nothing to do with the spousal abuse phone calls made three days earlier to him being taken off TV. Of course Sable and Chyna were released because of their attitudes. Since Lita hasn't been released (and they've had shitloads of chances where she was off tv and nobody would have noticed) I guess you've just shown that maybe her attitude isn't as bad as you just said it was.

Matt's right. If it makes money, you can't say that it's not successful. If everyone who's upset and posting little one-liners to 'get even' with Matt, they might be able to see that this was a post by him about the way the IWC puts down him and Lita and what they're doing now and not a post about the state of the women's division, which Lita really isn't any part of anymore than Stacy at this point. Why should he start talking about Trish or any others? She wasn't even related to the point of his little essay.

The guy is upset because whenever he gets on the internet to see what fans think of him, they're saying his career sucks, what he's doing sucks, and that his girlfriend is a fucking lazy fucking slut who is a worse wrestler than Mae Young, he posts something that if you DON'T picture him jumping up and down and screaming while he was writing it, and picture him calmly stating his feelings, makes him come across as a guy who understands this business a whole lot more than most.


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.64
He seems to not really care about the negative reaction to wrestling. Just the negative reaction to his storyline and Lita.

While I agree that Lita IS one of the most over divas in WWE, her workrate has declined ever since she's returned from injury and the women have lapped her. Sorry.

And I think the storyline is okay. But the acting is horrendous. Sorry, I like Matt Hardy, but he sucks acting-wise. That's nothing personal though. Hell, everyone knows how much of an RVD mark I am, and I'll be the first to admit that his acting blows as well. Kane and Lita aren't any better.

This is nothing against Matt, wrestling-wise, though. I think Matt is a tremendous wrestler. I was furious back in late-2002 when WWE had the chance to push him to the main-events, and instead they made him a glorified jobber on Velocity.

Frankly, I'm sick of all of the "The internet is too negative on wrestling". The majority of fans aren't negative just for the sake of being negative (I'll admit though, that some people out there ARE). They are negative because they see the company fumbling and making many mistakes. We aren't the only ones either. Didn't WWE draw only 800 fans to a house show a week or so ago?

It's funny. I have an old RAW magazine from 1998 which has an article that praises the internet. It mentions it's a great feedback tool, as WWF can get the fans' reactions immediatley and then tweak storylines to their liking. Of course, that was back when WWE was insanely popular, and had great story-telling going on. It seems that the second the WWE hears something they don't like, though, their minds change quickly.



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    Originally posted by Evil Antler God
    Man has a point, if you ignore all the self serving drivel (but come now, were you expecting him to go into a "my own angle sucks and Lita can't properly do a moonsault" rant?). There IS a huge trend in the IWC to pretend stuff that honestly does make money at the merchandise stand no matter how much you may hate it (Hogan, the legions and legions of Hardy Boyzzzzzz teenyboppers buying their merch long after the gimmick died with Jeff's career for example) should be killed and buried, strictly because it's popular to declare that stuff like that should be killed and buried

    Also could ramble for ages here on how everyone seemed to leap upon Mordecai and declared him the next Nathan Jones about as soon as Scott Keith made his cute "well they tried, but failed. Fire him" comment in his rant for the guy's FIRST MATCH, but I shall not ~_^

    (edited by Evil Antler God on 11.7.04 1657)


But weren't they all right about Mordecai, seeing as how WWE themselves took him off TV? I didn't see him at all so I don't have an opinion, but it is obvious that Mordecai didn't have the goods.

As for Matt, I'm SURE that you would have a promotion up and running. I was often entertained by Lita over the past five years, but she has had a rough go at it since the neck injury. I think the neck thing figures into Matt's defense of Lita. I just wish Matt would not use such inane points to support his argument (a WWE.com poll? Merchandising pages at Shopzone? SIGNS?). Ugh.



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Actually, I will agree with Evil Antler God on the Mordecai gimmick. I thought that, while he wasn't excellent in the ring, he looked like he had potential. I also thought the gimmick was intriguing. People seem to have gotten desensitized (sp?) from all the big guys being brought up to early, that they have no faith in any of them anymore (although, that's WWE's fault for making the same mistake time after time).



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    Originally posted by OMEGA
    Hell, everyone knows how much of an RVD mark I am, and I'll be the first to admit that his acting blows as well. Kane and Lita aren't any better.


I agree with everything you said, except I think Kane does great acting wise, considering the cartoonish nature of his character.



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The real problem I have with this is, Matt Hardy claims that because Lita moves merch, you should ignore whatever failings she has. That's bullshit. I'll admit, moving merch is damn important. But guys like Hogan or Austin, who also sold a lot of merchandise (I don't know if you knew that) also brought something else to the table. Lita brings nothing to the table but her character. But character doesn't cover up the fact that she can't talk or wrestle. Or get the crowd behind her in a match. They sure pop for her entrance, though. Which means that people don't really like Lita, they like the character of Lita (tough, punk, extreme chic). Let's be honest, the company's been using her since her comeback, but what other reason could they have for not putting the women's belt on her besides the fact that she can't wrestle and it shows even to the casual fan. People want the merchandise, they don't want to watch Lita wrestle.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher
    A majority of Internet writers are one-dimensional when it comes to their opinions on the wrestling business. The main concern to many who cover or comment about wrestling on the Internet is the in-ring product. If the matches on a show arenít long enough, arenít athletic enough, or donít score high enough on their ratings system, then the show was no good to them. Thatís not the case.


As a former columnist for the Spartanburg Herald-Journal and the Lakeland Ledger, I loved writing about wrestling because I felt I could package the angles in a way that could draw in the very casual fans and those who looked down on rasslin'. But I wrote my stuff as someone who had watched wrestling for years, not as someone who just came to the party when the NWO popped up. When something was really fun (the rise of Mick Foley, the WCW cruisers, Austin's peak, Akira Hokuto, Eddy and Chyna) I talked it up. I did my best to show people why this was fun on a broad level, not just to people who actually know a wristlock from a wristwatch. But if something was damned horrible, I wrote about that too. I wrote as a fan talking to the uninitiated, and I knew playing the negative card too often wouldn't bring anyone to the party.


    As of this morning, myself and Kane were the most anticipated match on the show Sunday according to fan votes on WWE.com. Obviously, there is interest in our conflict that has people talking and watching.


And that has nothing to do with the STORY as much it does with the MATCH-UP. Lita is merely the McGuffin; y'all could be fighting over Katie Vick and the intrigue would exist. If Matt wins, this nudges him that much closer to a legitimate singles career, instead of seeing him flail away after the Hardy team disbanded. But I'll bet most people wanna see this match in hopes Jeff comes back.



    Quick example No. 2: A portion of the Internet writers donít think Lita is that great of a WWE performer or asset to the company. For whatever reasons, they arenít Lita fans, whether it is her in-ring skills or character or whatever. Youíre wrong. She is the most popular and successful woman currently in the wrestling business. Success isnít measured solely by how great of a wrestler you are. Never has been, never will be.


If we're talking "popularity" as in the wrestling loyalists, maybe. If we're talking the mainstream non-fans, I don't think she has the crossover name recognition of a Torrie, Sable or Chyna. Lita is a good commodity. But she's not an asset, not the way she's being used. The potential is there, but the execution is lacking. Still, I'd much rather see her lethaldeadlyfatal DDT than anything Stacy, Torrie, Sable and Jackie do in the ring.


    Until someone has worked within the sports-entertainment business, they really have no idea how things work and what makes things successful.


My demand and the demands of the fellow fans determines success. I'm glad the WWE has enough money to throw a lot of pasta to the wall and see what sticks. I'd just like to see some more variety in the noodles.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.17
I will agree with Matt on one point: it's far to easy for someone to read something on the internet and allow that opinion to taint the way they view the product. Case in point: you guys honestly have no idea how much more I personally enjoyed the show after I stopped following Scott Keith. Especially the HHH segments. And I see a lot of people who bash the show for no reason what seems to be no other reason than because it's trendy on 411.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
Close-minded bandwagon jumping low IQ pessimists will be that way whether they have access to a computer or not.

Broad sweeping generalizations against the internet and wrestling fans suck.

Matt seems frustrated and all the critcism hurts because a lot of it is true. He didn't mind it when all these people he's slamming now were his number #1 fans, did he?

I'm sure all the fat teenage girl demographic that bought all their merchandise all came to their own independent conclusions on liking him and didn't just jump on the bandwagon of Hardy love.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.60
I'm sorry, but Matt Hardy isn't allowed to criticize the internet. After all, how many posts does he have on this board? How many PPV recaps has he written? How many chat rooms has he been in. He just doesn't understand "the business".

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.74
I agree with Tribal Prohpet. We all have opinions and argue that everyone else is wrong compared to hour God-like and always right opinions. He's just saying what he thinks.

NHS even said people seem to like Evil Trish but I can remember them saying how bad Evil Trish was at it never work and how she was ruined and it was wrong doing it to her as she's so great. Hypocritical? Methinks.

Matt's wrong on some points like the Kane story. But with regards Lita where in it does he mention her in ring skills. He don't. He avoids it like plague. Lita is success. You are on the 'Net saying Lita is crap - he says Lita is good so he MUST be wrong. Of course he defend his girl. As for her interviews - she hasnt done that many and if she's asked Q's about her she will talk about her. I don't see too many Victoria interviews prasining everyone else.

Just cos Matt has a different opinion than everyone, everyone on his back. I'm sure if he'd said Lita & Trish are most succesful then NHS would have ignored it but as he never mentioned Trish (how dare he NOT) he's the bad guy. He never talks down to or beittle the other divas.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
Can someone please tell me how to express a personal opinion from an objective point of view?

Look, this is a message board, not court. People don't come here to remove themselves and displace their perspectives and factor in numerous esoteric intangibles when they're talking about a wrestling show. They either like it, or they don't, and they say that. Here's what I think, here's what I would do differently---what is so damn unforgivable about that? Should we just express the same opinions but use third-person narration?

We are not objective observers, we're fans and we have opinions. Are we know-it-alls? Some of us, for sure, but wrestling is a business that asks a lot and deserves every bit of the criticism it gets from its fans. If you want me to watch the shows, buy tickets when you come to town, buy t-shirts, and pay for a PPV every three days, you bet your ass I'm going to hard to impress. And when you give me stuff that blows and then tell me I don't get a vote on sharing that opinion, I'm going to tell you to go catch an STD.

If the wrestling biz has to choose between taking our money and hearing us bitch versus us keeping our money, they're going to be hearing the list of complaints.

Now, when there's nothing good on a show, I usually shut up about unless it's so bad I am actually angered by it. For the most part, a shitty RAW is not something that gets me excited to go and organize my thoughts into a long essay. That's way too much effort to be negative. But if I'm on-line, why the hell not say what I didn't like? People don't want to read about what I, a person they have never met and will never meet, thought was splendid. But for whatever reason, when you complain, it gets debate going.

Matt Hardy is just mad because people don't like his bitch, and I can relate to that because I have horrible taste in women too. The constant negativity is a bad thing, but at the old "if you're not in the business, you don't get a vote" line continues to be the most retarded, blatantly delusional and unabashedly untrue thing that comes out of wrestlers' mouths.

Stop telling me I can't have an opinion. It is guaranteed my by the laws of my country. That's why I can tell you to kindly go fuck yourself. Really, you say I "don't count" only makes you sound like a five-year-old. Stop embarrassing yourself and your business by saying this. Please.








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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.22
Alright, gang, point made.



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