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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03

Enjoying the game after one mission, although I've already grown tired of Lt. Dave "the Animal" Bautista.





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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.65
After one full mission as well (retrieving a Turian General), I am enjoying it. I do already feel that they will need a patch soon. I had one conversation between Shepherd and Liara that featured each characters' heads being stuck in an unnatural position.

I am loving that there have been numerous callbacks to the first game so early in this game. It rewards you for having played through numerous times. The combat is similar to past games, but it is the story that drives the game.

I will admit that I have already bumped down the difficulty from Normal to Casual. I am embarrassed, but I am also not looking for a challenge.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
Im surprised they made a "combat lite" version just for people interested in the story.

I only made it as far as gaining free reign of the normamdy before work.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.14
Top Ten Things I missed about the Mass Effect Series.

10. Regenerate save your ass Shields
9. Competent AI co-workers.
8. The Normandy
7. The Oh we are so screwed opening sequence before the logo.
6. Blatant Lesbianism.
5. Ashley's faux Mina Kunis voice.
4. Martin Sheen being the Anti-Jeb Bartlet.
3. Multi-colored breasts.
2. The no one is safe not even that little boy you tried to rescue that ends up dying anyway even before level one feel.
1. The Sniper Rifle of head exploding bloody splattering awesomeness. I have missed you most of all.

I love this game.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94
Fuck you Black March... Fuck You.

I will not be getting this till April 1st.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.65
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Fuck you Black March... Fuck You.

    I will not be getting this till April 1st.


Black March? Is that like Black Friday?

Oh, and every time there is a ME game, I always read your username as Cerberus. Are you The Illusive Man?

As for the game, I ran into Jack on a mission recently. It was a pretty awesome reveal. Those are the moments in the game that I like.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.95
Black March was a movement wherein people would eschew spending any money on the entertainment industry during the month of March. It was to penalize them for their support of SOPA and PIPA. Apparently I've been doing it without even knowing it!
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I played a marathon of it yesterday and only stopped due to the frame rate dropping to like 5 fps? It became unplayable and I'm thinking,since I have the PS3 version it's doing the Skyrim thing. Where if you play a marathon session the system has to reset to give memory more room to run the game. I haven't turned it on yet cause I promised myself to be productive today, but my hand is shaking terribly. Must stop the Reapers!

This games strength is very strong on narrative. I played through ME2 three times and I still was unsure of my team making it out alive in the end. That sense of uncertainty and bond with the characters is distinctly missing in about 90% of games today. I've played ME 1 through 2 so I feel like I've personally known these characters for years, I will warn you this game pulls at the emotions quite tightly. I've been shocked by the outcome of some former crew members so far that left me all "Noooooooooo! Why Them!", as well as getting giddy to see old members return too.

Oh yeah, battles are INTENSE. I've died several times cause the enemy AI work like Special ops units. The online is repetitive but oddly addictive. It's all about teamwork. You can't even finish a level on Bronze if the team doesn't back each other up, I've seen it happen to often. Plus a team of Asari, Drell, and a Qunari tossing enemies everywhere and deep freezing them only for a biotic to ram into and asplode them is madness.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
You can tell this is the end of a trilogy given all the carnage toward past squad members.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
I'm about seven hours in now having got it on release here on Friday. The 10 out of 10 ratings are justified. They've taken the best aspects of ME1 and 2 and combined them. Spent three hours just walking around the Citadel alone, interacting. That place must be four times as big as the one from ME1. Also, graphically it's way beyond either of the prequels. I see they've been influenced by JJ Abrams love of lens flares!


Shits on Skyrim from a great height, and could well be the greatest game of this gen.



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I felt extremely similarly about the game until I finished it, as the ending soured me on the entire game and, in a way, the franchise as a whole.

Hope y'all like it better than I did.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.65
    Originally posted by CarlCX
    I felt extremely similarly about the game until I finished it, as the ending soured me on the entire game and, in a way, the franchise as a whole.

    Hope y'all like it better than I did.


I agree with you Carl, having just finished the game.


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I looked up the other endings online after finishing. It turns out that you have to have played multiplayer missions online to up the "galatic readiness" rating, in order to get the best endings. Wow, way to indoctrinate me Reape...I mean Bioware.




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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Like 99% of the internet, that article is misinformed. Galactic readiness has no bearing on the game's ending.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
That's not *entirely* true either.


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A galactic readiness of over 4,000 will give you a slightly altered cinematic. Over 5,000 gets you the easter egg with Sheperd breathing in a pile of rubble after the "Destroy" ending.


Either way the endings are all pretty stupid.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.10
Gamefaqs has a list of almost six different endings with the galactic readiness at certain spots. So, I am not sure what the complaining is about. I think people didn't do enough to get the ending they wanted. Also, if that is the end, I am ok with it. I understand it was a giant pain in the ass near the end, but the amount of times you got out of things needed to be evened out especially during the Legion/Tali storyline. BioWare said they are going to change the ending which to me is a coup out and more proof gamers are spoiled brats.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
I definitely agree that when I looked back at the totality of the game, I saw that I missed some of the opportunities (the bomb on Tuchanka mission being a big one that I didn't do right away and got dinged for it). I'm also starting off my second runthrough, and I used my first ME3 character so that I can get the achievement points. Therefore, I'm still basing my character off doing the renegade-driven character from ME1 (which will cost me a little bit).

That being said, even as I got one of the "good" endings, it still left me feeling cold, as if the six year journey of Mass Effect wasn't worth the time I put into it. And I know it was worth it, but the ending made me feel differently. That was the problem with these endings.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.76

I missed a coupple missions in my first play through, including Grissom Academy and meeting Miranda on the Citadel.

I'm not totally gung ho on the ending (although I always expected there would be lots of deaths) but the sense of entitlement by a rapid part of the fanbase seems like the worst of spoiled kid syndrome.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I'm not totally gung ho on the ending (although I always expected there would be lots of deaths) but the sense of entitlement by a rapid part of the fanbase seems like the worst of spoiled kid syndrome.


It's not though, and that's the thing. I don't really have the time or patience right this second to go over everything Bioware did wrong here, and others have done a better job, but I'll throw out a brief synopsis of why a lot of fans feel jaded by the ending. As spoiler free as possible, but I'll put it behind the spoiler screen anyway for the sake of people who don't want to read anything about the ending.


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1. Probably most damning, is that Mass Effect's lead designer and producer both said in interviews even up until the week the game launched that player agency would have direct impact on the endings. Casey Hudson (the project lead) even threw out a specific number (16) in terms of how many endings would be available depending on the choices made in the three games, and that the game "(i)s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are, or whether you got ending A, B, or C." What did we end up getting? Endings A, B, and C.

2. No choice is ever offered to the player in the last conversation. The child just comes out, tells you that he controls the Reapers, that synthetics and organics will constantly destroy each other, and that you'll have to do something about it and there are three options. And for the first time in the series, Shepard just shrugs and accepts this.

Now, if you've been playing the entire series to this point, there is a good chance that you've reunited the Geth with the Quarians and fostered a relationship between a synthetic being and a human (not to mention reunited three races that, while not synthetic had been waring for over a thousand years at this point). The main moral thrust of the entire Act 2 arc is that synthetics and organics aren't that different, and aren't doomed to constant war, and yet this isn't even brought up in the last arc.

Not to mention the fact that, if you come in with what can be up to 10,000 war asset points if you do multiplayer, there's nothing to suggest that you wouldn't be able to win the battle by conventional means anyway.

3. The ending directly contradicts the fiction we're supposed to be invested in. Before the final battle, you get a few seconds to have side conversations with all your party members on Earth, which is a classic Bioware scene that allows the player some catharsis as the game comes to an end.

Each one offers some variation on, "We're fighting to the death here." Yet every ending shows a group of them crash landing on a mysterious jungle planet, far from the "fight to the death" mentality they had five minutes before.

The final scene also features the (apparently) near escape of the destruction of one of the Mass Relays. Which is fine, but in the canon of the series (established in the Arrival DLC and at the beginning of Mass Effect 3) the destruction of a Relay would destroy the entire system it is in, thus wiping out all of civilization including the Normandy. There's bleak, and then there's "What did the past 120 hours net me, exactly?" Ultimately your actions throughout the series net approximately five seconds of difference in the end game cutscenes.

4. Going back to point one for a second, every piece of marketing for Mass Effect 3 claimed that the story of the series would wrap up in this game and that any questions about the themes of the three games players had would be sufficiently answered by the ending of Mass Effect 3.

However, in the Behind Mass Effect 3 documentary online, head writer Mac Walters ultimately decides that the best ending for the series leads to "LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE!" Despite that, even after the game goes gold all the marketing still claims that the questions will be answered.


In short, I don't want a "good" ending. But I hardly think it's "spoiled" or "entitled" to point out that Bioware did a poor job coming up with an ending for the series, and then spent a year lying about it. Especially not when they've explicitely stated that they plan to release DLC in the future anyway, and especially especially not when it's in reguards an interactive product that advertises itself to be affected by player choice and response.

And it's not like there's not a precidence for this. Movie endings get changed by directors cuts, books are re-edited due to critical response (including the last Mass Effect book, funnily enough), Douglas Adams treated the Hitchhiker's Guide radio plays as a constant work in progress, rewriting entire sections based on audience response.

It's not like there isn't precidence in the game industry either. Fallout 3 had its ending changed (both because it didn't make sense and because they wanted to sell DLC). World of Warcraft just announced that the end boss for the next expansion would be Garrosh Hellscream, largely because the player base doesn't like the character.

The point is that Bioware screwed up, and I hardly think it makes me "entitled" if I point that out, especially not if they stand to make a fortune on a $10 ending DLC pack.





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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.10
No, its entitlement. You have a choice on what you can do at the end. Everything you do and more importantly you do not do leads to the ending you get. There are six, six different endings, how many more do they need? I think most fans did very little, got the bad ending and lost their shit without realizing there are other endings. No one wants to admit their wrong, so we get a wave of fanboy hate without someone saying "Hey, you realize there are different endings right?" No, we get nerd internet rage to the point BioWare is going to spend millions to give you an ending that, I will be shocked that costs anything. If it does, then the spoiled brats can pay for it or cry about it costing money either way no one wins.

Is it the greatest endings of all time. No, but it makes sense. Someone said that Mass Effect 3 is a high octane Babylon 5 Shooter thus you are going to get the Shadow War ending. An ending where its not about some explosive fight to the death, but ending that is more about starting a new. I have zero problem with the ending even in the bad one, you get hope and considering how fucking hopeless it seemed at times in this game, its better than nothing. Granted B5 ended the Shadow War with a happy ending, but that doesn't Mass Effect 3 has to do that either. I think it was a rather ballsy move on BioWare's part and I wish more games would give you an ending you had to think about rather then the princess is in this castle or you single handily saved America or Earth or the Galaxy without repercussions due to how big your gun is.

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Everything you do and more importantly you do not do leads to the ending you get. There are six, six different endings


What six different endings might look like.


    No, but it makes sense.


I am geniunely curious. At what level?



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