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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
Lingo, technobabble, and team-building are the crux of the second episode of Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Boy oh boy, is there a lot of technobabble. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is well-aware there is no Star Trek currently on television and they're doing their damnedest to fill the technobabble void. Virtually everything Fitz and Simmons said was relentless technobabble. Ward was the audience's stand in for demanding they speak English. S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't yet do the Star Trek dealie where they do a technobabble info dump and then someone explains what was just said using a quaint metaphor. They should really work on that.

It's Skye's move in day as a brand spanking new consultant to S.H.I.E.L.D. ("Technically, [Tony] Stark's a consultant," Coulson reminds us.) Ward doesn't like it since she's not trained for field ops, but then neither are Fitz or Simmons. Exactly one half of Coulson's Mobile Command Unit isn't fit for combat and field ops, and one who is - Melinda May - doesn't want to see combat. This is some team Coulson has put together. Since they're taking Skye's van away, which is also her place of residence, it seems like Skye gets to live on the S.H.I.E.L.D. plane. The plane is "officially an airborne mobile command station, but we call it Serenity The Bus," explains Fitz. The Bus - callsign 616, the nerdiest reference to the Marvel Universe in the episode - also actually flies; it didn't last week but now it does, and a lot, and almost crashes, but we'll get to that later.

The Bus and the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. hop on down to Peru, where an Inca temple houses a mysterious 0-8-4 - which is S.H.I.E.L.D. designation for an object of unknown origin. The last 0-8-4 was Thor's hammer, and we all know how that turned out -- awesome, for the ladies. This 0-8-4 is a 1,500 year old alien device that looks like a crappy 1950's toaster but is loaded with Tesseract energy, seemingly hidden there by Hydra soldiers after World War II. (Captain America also gets a shout out.) Skye, who's all read up on the political state of Marvel Peru thanks to The Rising Tide, knows there's a rebellion going on that the Peruvian military is trying to quell. Both sides would love to get their hands on a toaster that shoots blue Tesseract lightning. Also, Skye is dismayed to learn part of her job is to now be a S.H.I.E.L.D. Internet liar when called upon to lie, which is the opposite of what she stands for as a WikiLeaker.

Long story short, the Peruvian military show up and a blammy blam blam shootout and car chase puts the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Peruvian soldiers, lead by Coulson's old jungle boogie buddy, the unusually hot and horny Comandante Camilla Reyes (Lenor Varela), on The Bus hightailing it out of Peru and into The Slingshot, a S.H.I.E.L.D. blacksite. But that was Reyes' plan all along - to take the S.H.I.E.L.D. plane and the 0-8-4 by force. To do what with it? Why crush the rebels and rule Peru, of course. Can the bickering Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. who don't trust each other overcome their bickering and mistrust to work together and save Coulson and the day? Of course they can, by using the 0-8-4 to blow a hole in the plane -- with teamwork! (100 people with 1% of the solution can get it done. Or in this case, 5 people, as Skye explained to Ward as they discussed S.H.I.E.L.D. lingo like S.O., i.e. supervising officer, over spiked whiskey and sexual tension.) Amazing how handily a hole in a plane at 30,000 feet eliminates a cadre of Peruvian soldiers (shout out by Coulson to falling 30,000 feet like Thor did in the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier Hulk trap in The Avengers) and even more amazing how easily a rubber life raft inflated by Skye, who read the flight manual, can safely patch up said hole in said plane.

And so it was that six days after first assembling, Coulson's Mobile Command Unit survives their first mission as a team, safely bringing the 0-8-4 to The Slingshot and The Bus in for repairs. The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. have bonded; May nudges Ward into becoming Skye's S.O. to make her fit for S.H.I.E.L.D. duty, well-aware as the audience is that they are clearly going to become horizontal Avengers. I mean, the show's not remotely subtle about it. Meanwhile, while literally everyone's back is turned, Skye gets a secret communique from The Rising Tide, which is about to go dark, seeking her status. "I'm in," Skye texts back. Don't trust the hottie who refers to herself as "a hacker" repeatedly and used to live in a van. For his troubles, Coulson gets a serious dressing down from Nick Fury himself! Check out Samuel Motherfucking Jackson making a television cameo appearance! Fury, his priorities ever above reproach, admonishes Coulson and tells him there better not be a fish tank on his plane. "Cancel the fish tank," Coulson calls to nobody. He'd better. What does Coulson think this ship is, the Enterprise?

(edited by John Orquiola on 1.10.13 1910)
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.60
I thought Ward and Skye came off better in this episode than they did in the pilot, although Ward still comes off as almost unrealistically stupid, refusing to listen to the science guys as to the proper way to move a volatile alien superweapon. I've got no problem with the team being largely unfit for combat, as long as we don't get episode after episode of them going into combat situations, which of course, we might. Lastly, I know it was a small part, and we probably won't see her again, but I wish we would've gotten a better actress than Varela playing Reyes. She killed every scene where she had more than five words to say, and that's even considering all of her scenes were with Clark Gregg. If you can't churn out a good performance across from that guy, hang it up.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54
Fitz-Simmons are going to take a lot of getting used to. They can be pretty grating in large doses.

But a lot of that was balanced out by Agent May's awesomeness. Everyone else on this team has the Joss Whedon Scooby Gang vibe about them, but May is a genuine seasoned badass. You know, as long as she doesn't get knocked out every episode. She's 2 for 2, so far.

Somebody needs to send that clip of covering a plane breach with a life raft over to Mythbusters, stat!

New Coulson theories, which I guess I can safely toss in here.

"Tahiti, it's a magical place."

It can't be a coincidence that Coulson said this right after talking about getting speared by Loki. I sense Asgardian magic is going to play a part in this plot point's ultimate resolution.




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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by It's False
    "Tahiti, it's a magical place."

    It can't be a coincidence that Coulson said this right after talking about getting speared by Loki. I sense Asgardian magic is going to play a part in this plot point's ultimate resolution.


Yeah, but Coulson also called Tahiti a magical place a couple of times in the pilot without a prompt about Loki. I'm leaning more towards the Life Model Decoy explanation. Or the Infinity Formula. Both staples of S.H.I.E.L.D. comics.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.60
I agree that they're riding the word "magical" too much for it to be coincidence. I don't know if it's necessarily Asgardian magic, but it's definitely some kind of magic.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
I drew a couple of Firefly/Serenity parallels in my review, which I couldn't help because quite a bit of S.H.I.E.L.D. has Firefly's DNA. The Bus is pretty much Serenity. Skye is kind of a combination of River and Simon, the new person on board the ship (with a secret) already attracted to Ward, the way Simon was to Kaylee. It's a bit of a stretch, but it's there. May is a combination of Wash and Zoe, being both the trained ex-soldier and the pilot.

It's an interesting choice to have Coulson's team as green as they are instead of already being a finely honed unit, which is what I sort of expected them to be going in, being S.H.I.E.L.D. and all. Even Ward seems a bit too young and clean to be the hardened, experienced operative he's supposed to be. Reyes directly pointed out how young and attractive Coulson's team is. They just seem too much like The Real World: S.H.I.E.L.D. I suppose time and experience will fix that issue.

It's still only episode 2, but expectations are high for this show. Here are 5 valid criticisms. (hollywoodreporter.com) Steranko must still be working on his recap.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
This feels like a kids show. The show lingers a little too long on people sharing a moment, and the new team is a bit too cute all around.

I like the team's Black Widow. I admit I geek out for any Marvel reference. I liked the post-credit surprise.

I'll come back when the show has settled in a bit.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
I thought Episode 2 was weak. So many cliche's of the team not getting along then forced to work together and reciting phrases they learned earlier in the episode. And the liferaft to patch a hole didn't look plausible at all.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
This show is all kinds of wobbly. Maybe my own high expectations are hurting it, I don't know. It just doesn't feel well-made. The writing and character development are the biggest drawbacks so far.

No one outside of Coulson (and maybe Melinda May) is particularly likable. Ward has the charisma of a potato. Are Fitzsimmons' accents real? If they are, they suffer from Johnny Lee Miller Disease, where one's real accent sounds extraordinarily fake. Coulson is still too jokey. I mentioned it in last week's thread and it's still bugging me. Tone down the whimsy just a hair.

Speaking of fake, that's what this world feels like so far. I get that it's a TV show and there are budget limits and such, but nothing on this show feels real. Everything screams, "This is a set and this is a backlot and we're not really anywhere real." A little location shooting would go a long way.

I'm still in, though, if only for the novelty of having a primetime Marvel show. I have to remind myself that I loathed Firefly the first time I watched it and I ended up being very, very wrong.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
Steranko (hollywoodreporter.com) on episode 2. He sure hates Nick Fury's black leather coat.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.26
Steranko is a sad old racist who gets off on making up stories for rubes to listen to.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.98
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Are Fitzsimmons' accents real?


My first thought with Fitz was "that's a TERRIBLE Scottish accent!" but it turns out he is indeed Scottish. I'm still not *entirely* convinced it's his natural accent but that might be down to him over-enunciating or something. You can judge for yourself here (youtube.com).

Simmons' appears to be her own voice.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I drew a couple of Firefly/Serenity parallels in my review, which I couldn't help because quite a bit of S.H.I.E.L.D. has Firefly's DNA. The Bus is pretty much Serenity. Skye is kind of a combination of River and Simon, the new person on board the ship (with a secret) already attracted to Ward, the way Simon was to Kaylee. It's a bit of a stretch, but it's there. May is a combination of Wash and Zoe, being both the trained ex-soldier and the pilot.

And then there's this. (utsavbansal.kinja.com)



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#15 Posted on
Seeing Melinda May in action evoked memories of Jackie Earl Haley's Guerrero from Human Target:



Even further, Melinda May hasn't yet matched up to the legendary Emma Peel:



I'm still not enamoured with Agents, but I'll stick with it through the season however the ratings will go.

My "0-8-4" episode review.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.54
    Originally posted by JALman
    Seeing Melinda May in action evoked memories of Jackie Earl Haley's Guerrero from Human Target:


Seeing that clip just reminds me that Human Target went away way too soon. I can't remember the last character who inspired that kind of "Aww, fuck!" reaction with just the mere mention of his name.




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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
You know what's a really good new show about a mismatched group of law enforcement types come together under a charismatic (black) leader? Brooklyn Nine-Nine. In three episodes, they've already figured that show out. (Much faster than Parks and Rec figured itself out.) The cast has gelled, every character is distinct, the jokes are really funny. I spent way too much time with a friend today musing about how much better Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be if the Brooklyn Nine-Nine cast jumped over to the Marvel Universe, took over for Coulson and his kids, and started solving 0-8-4 cases. That would be a GREAT show.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.28
I don't really find Fitz-Simmons accent to be all that hard to understand at all tbh.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    You know what's a really good new show about a mismatched group of law enforcement types come together under a charismatic (black) leader? Brooklyn Nine-Nine. In three episodes, they've already figured that show out. (Much faster than Parks and Rec figured itself out.) The cast has gelled, every character is distinct, the jokes are really funny. I spent way too much time with a friend today musing about how much better Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be if the Brooklyn Nine-Nine cast jumped over to the Marvel Universe, took over for Coulson and his kids, and started solving 0-8-4 cases. That would be a GREAT show.


My wife already hates Brooklyn 99 and I think its a Office hold over. Andre Braugher and the girls are the only good part of the show even then I figure five episodes in, I will find them annoying as well. Samberg is ok in that role, but Braugher is such a heavyweight, everyone else on the show looks like clown shoes.

(edited by lotjx on 3.10.13 0531)


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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I think its a Office hold over.


Except there are no confessionals to the camera because no one is making a documentary about these cops.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    I figure five episodes in, I will find them annoying as well.


I figure five episodes in, I'll like the B99 cast even more. I just hope five episodes in, I can say the same about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

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