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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-fmarlins27apr27,0,3795737.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

This has only been about 12 years in the making, but at least now there's no more concern that the Marlins are going to pick up and move to Vegas/Charlotte/East Hell.

Also, it's not mentioned in the article, but it's been stated enough times that I know it's true, but as part of the deal with the city commission, be ready in a few years to call this team the Miami Marlins.

And good riddance to JR/PP/Dolphins Stadium as a baseball park.





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Is a 38,000 seat retractable roof stadium a bit small? Sounds tiny.
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Is a 38,000 seat retractable roof stadium a bit small? Sounds tiny.


The ballparks that have been built in the last few years (e.g. Phily, PNC, Miller, tGAB, etc) have an average capacity of about 40,000+ or so.

LISTED STADIUM CAPACITY:

PNC PARK, Pittsburgh: 38,365
CITIZENS BANK PARK, Philadelphia: 43,500
GREAT AMERICAN BALLPARK, Cinncinnati: 42,500
MILLER PARK, Milwaukee: 43,000
COMERICA PARK, Detroit: 40,000
SAFECO FIELD, Seattle: 46,621
PETCO PARK, San Diego: 42,500
BUSCH 2: Electric Boogaloo (opening 2006): 46,000 (architectural design)


So it's about par for the course as far as modern-day stadium design.

EDIT TO BELOW POST: In the Marlins' case it's particularly true, because since Huizenga sold the team, the Marlins have seen none of the suite revenue from the stadium, since a) Huizenga owns the stadium and b) the suite money is specifically earmarked to pay off the private commercial mortgage the stadium is under.



(edited by Blanket Jackson on 27.4.05 1242)

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And remember, the money is in the suites, not the seats.

The drawing looks a LOT like Seattle though from the top, maybe it's just me:


Looks like the team stays in Miami and keeps the name Florida Marlins as opposed to being forced to switch to the Miami Marlins.

And it looks like the Devil Rays take the lead in the "Most Likely to move to Havana when Castro Dies" derby...



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It DOES look like Safeco, although the roof, when retracted, is over the rightfield side instead of the first base side. Based on the rendition, if that's how they're orienting the park, that looks like a nasty shadow over homeplate for day games.

Safeco's capacity is about 46,000 or so, btw.



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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    ...but at least now there's no more concern that the Marlins are going to pick up and move to Vegas/Charlotte/East Hell.

The Marlins were rumored to move to Gary, IN? *ba-dum-dum*

43,389 - Jacobs Field seating capacity. That is nice and cozy for a ballpark.



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Great news. But it's one less excuse for fans in South Florida to use as to why they're not going to the games ("they might not be around in a few years!"). I really hope this new stadium attracts better crowds than they've been getting- they've been doing all right this year, though. And we FINALLY get out from under that terrible lease with Huizenga- he almost killed the deal by saying he wouldn't kick the fish out (like he said earlier) after 2010.

And Blanket, like Grimis said, I believe they get to keep the "Florida" in their name, as per a story I read yesterday. I like the "Florida Marlins" better than "Miami Marlins," but would've settled for the latter if it meant a new stadium.



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I looked for the name provision in the Sentinel article today and it wasn't there.

I had been going by everything I read (probably about 10 articles give/take) that said the City of Miami (whose actual jurisdiction is from Coconut Grove to Little Havana to the main downtown area) was being insistant that if they approved putting up nine figures for a stadium in Little Havana, they wanted the name to be the Miami Marlins, and Loria was happy to accomodate them every step of the way.

EDIT RESPONSE TO BELOW POST: Ah, and I thought the NASCAR Museum was the only caveat Tallahassee/The North Florida Contingent wanted. I should have known.

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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    I looked for the name provision in the Sentinel article today and it wasn't there.

The best I could find is a story quoted on this message board:

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42076&st=50

It's about a third of the way down- I think it might have been written by the Palm Beach Post.

    Originally posted by article in question

    Almost simultaneously, a key Senate committee agreed by a one-vote margin to keep the stadium alive with a likely caveat that the team keep its name as the Florida Marlins and not change to the Miami Marlins.





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Does the retractable roof go over BOTH stadiums?
Pretty cool idea if it does.
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I know that only the depths of hell itself is hotter than Miami in July, but i cant believe they are actually going to put a roof on the stadium. it just doesnt seem right.

But I guess they can attract things like the Final Four now.



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    Originally posted by dwaters
    Does the retractable roof go over BOTH stadiums?
At one point Huizenga was talking about enclosing Dolphins Stadium, but the pricetag on this seems awfully low to do that. They would have to undergo massive renevations on Dolphins Stadium to make that happen.



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