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Since: 10.7.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
... I gotta admit. He's growing on me. And not in the fungus-sorta way.

Granted, he doesn't have the world's most diverse moveset. And he was fighting Spike, whose bumping can make anyone look good.

At the same time, though... his punches were solid. He's got a fscking kickass dropkick. He's willing to bump for a smaller guy like Spike, and sell his offense to the degree it should be sold. He took a really nice bump over the top rope to the outside, too. And his finisher (The Mark of Perfection - Back suplex into a uranage) looks like a credible finisher.

And his gimmick, while hardly original, is working for him. He's getting across the arrogant prick body language... I loved him crawling over to the ropes after knocking down Spike with a big move so he could grab a hand mirror from Teddy Long and admire himself. And Long, as his mouthpiece, is doing a good job getting the crowd to hate Jindrak.

Any other thoughts?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
I smell a banning...

Anyways, my only problem with the Narcissist gimmick they gave him is that they've already done it, and I think most people still remember Luger doing it (and doing it better). It's like if they brought in a Native American and gave him a war dance and an undefeated streak. Another problem they have with it is that as built as Jindrak is, he actually looks *worse* that a number of people on the roster.

With Luger, he looked like a body-builder and nobody really compared. With Jindrak, it takes away from him as soon as you see a guy like Batista, or Orton, or a lot of the guys they have now. Christ, Dupree is supposed to be some sort of French pansy and he's built like a brick house.

It's a nice gimmick, but the wrong guy to give it to. At least in giving it to him, we now know that the WWE Creative Team has A) Decided to do something with him which is better than most unknowns they have who end up sitting at home for months on end, and B) They've rented and watched Wrestlemania 8 at some point.

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Since: 7.2.04
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.12
I gotta go with Tribal Prophet on this one.

I hope Jindrak likes it on Velocity, because I think he'll be there for a while. I can't see his new Luger gimmick really getting over. Heck, even Luger had a better cape (with a big fancy collar), and a bigger mirror!

Which brings up another thought: WWE Creative hasn't even tried to differentiate Jindrak's gimmick from Luger's. It's an exact carbon copy. It wouldn't have been too hard to tweak it just a little bit and make it at least partially original. There have been quite a few 'narcissits' over the years, Rick Rude comes to mind, and they all did things a little differently. But it seems to me they just said, "What about the old silver cape and mirror?"

Too bad nobody said, "But didn't that bomb with Luger?"

With Booker T about to take-on the old Papa Shango gimmick, I forecast we might see a few more recycled gimmicks in the near future. Afterall, after Wrestlemania XX, isn't this time where everything, for better or worse, begins again?

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
They should've given the gimmick to A-Train. Narcissistic oafish slob, with Teddy Long as his overhyped mouthpiece. Now THAT would've gotten over.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.30
Man that promo tonight on Heat with Long trying his damn best to get ANY reaction for Jindrak was pretty painful to watch. He was one step away from saying, cheer, booo please folks do something... Long felt he had his hands full with Rodney Mack, Jazz, and Mark Henry. Those three were catching on like a flu in kindergartner class compared to Jindrak tonight. But boy did Teddy try "Perfection right out of the womb" LoL

I will also agree with Tribal, there is nothing really that unique or freakish of him to make him warrant this type of "they broke the mold after they build Jindrak" cause he's just average... Hey, I've mentioned on another thread, this day in age in wrestling someone like Eugene is unique not Jindrak.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
Now THAT would've been gold. A-Train thinking he's God's gift to women while being hairy and frightening. Too bad they didn't do that. It would've embraced the crappyness of the gimmick and made it work.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Okay, general concensus is that the gimmick isn't that hot. I understand the arguments there, and can't really fault the logic (although Jindrak got decent heat on Velocity.)

What about his ringwork, though? I'm of the opinion he's at least above-average, bordering on 'good'. Limited moveset, like I said, but the moves he does he does well.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
His ringwork is okay, but I still look at the WWE as being the top company in the world, so the worst I expect from a guy is to be "good". Even if it's a big slug like The Warlord, as long as he can play the giant musclehead role right, it's great.

Seeing guys learn how to wrestle live on tv every week I guess bothers me more than most because I just expect more than what they tend to give us. I guess I should grade him on a curve and say that he's got an okay look, and shows some real potential, but he needs a few good moves or even sequences of moves to keep him from wrestling a style like Billy Gunn (generic irish-whip moves) or even to keep him from wrestling like a SNES video game. I don't care about the crispness of his punches as much as I care about thinking "Is that the only way he knows to get from move to move?".

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.34
I too would've loved to see A-train get this gimmick, but if so, he would have to play it into a face turn due to the crowd support it undoubtedly would attract.

Has Baldo made an appearance in a while? Any chance of returning to the T&A gimmick with Test, now that Trish is a heel again?

Since: 13.5.04
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.11
I have to agree with the consensus. In theory, this is a solid gimmick. However, the writers should have put a twist on it so that it wasn't a staight copy of Luger. Also, I think his problem is that Orton has a similar gimmick just better performed on Raw. Maybe they should put him in designer clothes and have a metrosexual vibe.

Since: 17.11.03
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
    Originally posted by Stilton
    Too bad nobody said, "But didn't that bomb with Luger?"

We'll never know for sure actually, since they pulled the plug on it a few months later to make him that THING they made him into.

Although I don't remember it generating THAT much heat, he was terrific at playing the part of the gimmick, it THAT makes any sense whatsoever.

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