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I'm suprised at all the Mark Henry bashing. I know he's not the greatest wrestler, but its good to see a midcarder getting a push for a change, and his mini-feud with Goldberg was quite good.

It's better than him bending pans and bars like he was on Smackdown! last year.

Giving him a bit of a push might motivate him to develop more. You only have to look at the improvement in Big Show this past year to see how having the company behind you make you raise your game.
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I for one, support any push that sees Teddy Long's TV time increased.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.92

He's better suited in a tag team ... I think he & Rodney Mack were starting to take off together ... sucks that Mack got injured ... but as was previously said, as long as pimp daddy Theodore is on TV, then it's cool.



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I have no problems whatsoever with Mizark's current push. In fact, if they're going to make a go of it with him, they should shift the Intercontinental Title onto him. It'd be a fresh face, and he wouldn't look out of place with it.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.18
Mark Henry should get a push just for putting up with the Mae Youngs and sister humpings and poop sandwiches. Although I suppose the billion dollars he makes a year might be payment enough, so nevermind.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by MDK
    I'm suprised at all the Mark Henry bashing. I know he's not the greatest wrestler, but its good to see a midcarder getting a push for a change, and his mini-feud with Goldberg was quite good.

How about pushing a *talented* midcarder that the fans care about, neither of which describe Henry?

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 7.11.03 1550)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I have no problems whatsoever with Mizark's current push. In fact, if they're going to make a go of it with him, they should shift the Intercontinental Title onto him. It'd be a fresh face, and he wouldn't look out of place with it.


Man, I hope you're kidding. The last time Mark was over and justified his paycheck was maybe the first feud with Lawler. After that, it was all downhill. The fans don't care about him, the company doesn't care, but more importantly he doesn't seem to care.

His mini-feud with Goldberg was awful to say the least. He is not a convincing monster and he couldn't even lift HBK correctly for the move on the steps. When this guy can't even hit one spot, it's time to let him go.

If they have to keep him around, then maybe he can be an okay tag team partner. By himself, Mark is a mess of a "superstar." So no, I wouldn't put him anywhere near any title, much less the IC belt.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
C'mon guys! We all know the huge contract is the only thing that justifies his yearly push. I don't mind him in his role right now of Big guy SMASH. At least he hardly gets mic time and has Teddy to do that for him. In fact if he keeps getting jobbed out like he did this past Monday night I'm not going to turn the channel when he comes on like I usually do. At least it will give me something to laugh about.



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#9 Posted on
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by MDK


    How about pushing a *talented* midcarder that the fans care about, neither of which describe Henry?

    (edited by Spaceman Spiff on 7.11.03 1550)


My sentiments exactly. Mark Henry is just one of those guys that no matter what, will never be over. His original angle as the olympic hero failed, his stint in the NOD failed, his sexual chocolate gimmick was a joke, and the bending bars/lifting automobiles schtick... simply put.. nobody cared about. There is only so many chances you can give a guy before someone finally says "enough" and I have a feeling that if Vince didn't give him that huge long-term contract nearly 7 years ago, he would be curtain-jerking TNA shows right about now
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
If they were seriously pushing Henry they should have never jobbed him to Shawn Michaels for one. Mark Henry makes a good heel and I have no problem with him. Hell, he's a bit of fresh air on a Raw roster that has turned quite one dimisional. I like Mark Henry's chances of getting over a hell of a lot more than I like Test's. Then again I like Albert as a power/bigman as well and Rikishi as a fat Samoan heel, so you all can piss off.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.70
The IWC Says: Push younger guys, as long as it's the ones we like.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by King Of Crap
    The IWC Says: Push younger guys, as long as it's the ones we like.


Henry's been around for almost 8 years now. Not exactly a young whippersnapper.

I haven't been impressed by Mark Henry yet. He still looks really lost in the ring. He pauses and thinks about what to do next. I'd rather they kept him in a bodyguard type role or a tag team. Henry's problem is that WWE is the land of the giants with so many of the cookie cutter big men that it limits his chance of standing out. If Mark Henry was the lone big power guy, he'd be fine but now he's just another one of those guys who do the same power moves.
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Henry's ring-work has always been indy-league at best, the only good mileage they ever got out of Mark was when Terri and Jackie ball-gagged him and with the whole "Sammy" incident.

...oh yeah, and X-Pac as Mizzark Henry saying what the Crock is cooking "smells like shit... but I'll eat it anyway." MAN that was a classic segment.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.36
Do you dudes not remember his date with Chyna? Teaming with D'Lo? BRAINURISM? How are you gonna say he was never over. That's crazy talk. I can't hear of it. I won't hear of it.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37
    Originally posted by SEADAWG
    Do you dudes not remember his date with Chyna? Teaming with D'Lo? BRAINURISM? How are you gonna say he was never over. That's crazy talk. I can't hear of it. I won't hear of it.


I gotta agree -- some of his best stuff was during the early Sexual Chocolate days. Especially his poem-readings. And yeah, that whole transvestite thing was kind of the deathknell for him, but he did prove he could pull the role off.

As far as the push right now, I don't mind it. He's not a tremendous worker and never will be. But he looks great out there as the huge monster heel, and I could think of worse people to send out as an evil foil for Michaels, Goldberg, etc. Teaming him with Rodney Mack was a great move.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
"Man, I hope you're kidding. The last time Mark was over and justified his paycheck was maybe the first feud with Lawler. After that, it was all downhill. The fans don't care about him, the company doesn't care, but more importantly he doesn't seem to care."

The fans care as much about Mark Henry as they do about Christian, Rodney Mack, Lance Storm, Maven, Steven Richards, Hurricane or Rosey. And, seeing as Henry's had the most high-profile programs out of the potential pushees recently, they may as well capitalise on the Goldberg/Michaels feuds by sticking a belt on him. With Teddy Long as his mouthpiece I can't say as it would do much harm. Hell, even if he beats RVD three weeks before Armaggeddon then loses it back to him at the PPV, at least it'd be something different from the van Dam/Booker/Jericho/Christian combos.





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What I don't understand is the fact that in all of his "pushes" and trips to OVW for "seasoning," the WWE hasn't given him a moveset that befits a Strong Guy (the World's Strongest, right?) rather than a Fat Guy.

When Mark Henry does things that imply that he is stronger than anyone on the roster, he can get over as credible in the eyes of the fans. If he's really quick and can leap, as JR often points out, why not let him do so. That move where he jumps through the ropes is a good start, albeit a dangerous one, but he really needs a decent array of power moves. His finisher is a falling powerslam (what, the World's Strongest Man can't be bothered to run?). I find it hard to believe that he can't execute a Gorilla Press slam, which always tends to impress, particularly when you add a few Military reps.

Other possibilities: That swinging bearhug thingy that they feature in the Smackdown game (I believe it ends with a belly to belly suplex); the Full Nelson (if the announcers put over the fact that in the hands of the strongest man in the world it can break a man's neck, which led to the swinging variety being banned); the Torture Rack Backbreaker. Basically anything that puts over the fact that Mark isn't merely a weightlifter, but is a guy who can put his immense strength to use to hurt people.

My take: I think that the Fed WANTS to push Henry, but they don't want to give him any of the impressive power offense that other wrestlers have, for fear that he'll steal their thunder. Goldberg is able to do all types of power moves, but if Henry did them, Goldberg wouldn't be as impressive. If Henry does a sitout powerbomb, the roided-up monsters that Vince pushes because of their impressive chemically-enhanced physiques don't have offensive moves to employ without possibly killing someone. (see John Hnrnrnr)

But I admit, Henry does often look lost in the ring. And I think a tag team (although I had preferred Orlando Jones or Chris Nowinski as his partner) is a good fit for him. But given that he will be thrust into a near-main event spot, it would behoove the WWE to book Henry to succeed, rather than to fail. That means occasionally putting him over a big name guy in clean or semi-clean fashion, and maybe giving him a credible finisher for the fans to react to. (I'm partial to the Full Nelson myself...)
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by King Of Crap
    The IWC Says: Push younger guys, as long as it's the ones we like.

No, the IWC says push TALENTED younger/new guys. The talented ones just happen to be the ones the majority of the IWC likes.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
    Originally posted by AlboDude
    < There is only so many chances you can give a guy before someone finally says "enough" and I have a feeling that if Vince didn't give him that huge long-term contract nearly 7 years ago, he would be curtain-jerking TNA shows right about now


Yeah, this return to ASSMAN really isnt working. Wait, you werent talking about Billy Gunn here?

(edited by StaggerLee on 8.11.03 1857)
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by King Of Crap
      The IWC Says: Push younger guys, as long as it's the ones we like.

    No, the IWC says push TALENTED younger/new guys. The talented ones just happen to be the ones the majority of the IWC likes.


You and I may interpret talent in two different ways. Then again you and I may not be part of the *IWC*.
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