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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
The match between John Isner and Nicolas Mahut is currently 50-50 in the fifth set (as in a 100 game set!).

They've been playing the fifth set all day, as the match was suspended last night at 2 sets apiece. It's the longest match in history at over 7.5 hours. Unbelievable.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.85
Isner v. Mahut 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 59-59 (suspended)

It's the longest match in Grand Slam history.
The final set alone is longer than any previous match in Grand Slam history (and still going).
The longest Wimbledon final set since tiebreaks were introduced was 25-23.
Both players have already beat the former record for aces in a match.
55 straight times Isner went ahead with a chance to break and win in the final set, 55 times Mahut has held serve to extend the match.
The electronic scoreboard gave out around 47-47 in the final set.

I came upon this after the US/Algeria match and said "28-27 in the 5th? May as well see how it comes out before I grab lunch between matches". Missed lunch, missed overt half of Germany/Ghana (did catch Germany making it 1-0 on a commercial)... Unbelievable.

(edited by TheOldMan on 23.6.10 1511)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.51
It really wasn't necessarily great tennis, and I gave up watching because there wasn't anything particularly entertaining about it. I think they should use the standard tiebreaker for the fifth set for all rounds but the final. I love dramatic finals showdowns like Federer vs. Nadal, but it's not so great when it's two relative nobodies in a match that will ultimately be pointless because the winner is going to be spent and useless in subsequent rounds.

The novelty is interesting, but I think Wimbledon at the Powers That Be should want to avoid this.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.73
I'm with TBF on this one. I hope no one tries to compare this match to Federer-Nadal from two years ago. Isner has the best serve in tennis. Okay, I understand that. But he has shown ZERO effort to break Mahut since it was at least 41-40. Meanwhile, Mahut is trying to single-handedly erase the bad image associated with French sportsmen this summer, giving it his all on every point and diving all over the place on multiple occasions. I guess you could make the argument that Isner is up a game whenever Mahut is serving while Mahut is never up, and therefore Mahut doesn't have the luxury of taking a game off. But still, watching Isner mope around when it's Mahut's serve, complaining on almost every call and generally showing little to no effort while waiting for his (nearly unstoppable) serve is very, very annoying.

I lost all will to do anything productive after watching. By the end the most interesting thing to me was how Mahut, who looked relatively fresh despite working so hard, wanted to suspend play while Isner, who looked ready to keel over and die at any moment, wanted to keep playing. I don't think I'll bother finding this match on TV when it resumes tomorrow.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.96
I also picked this up at 28-27.

This is why I hate Wimbledon. Every game is the same:

Ace
Ace
Service winner
Ace
Game
Towel

Terrible tennis to watch, but great drama and history.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Isner has the best serve in tennis. Okay, I understand that. But he has shown ZERO effort to break Mahut since it was at least 41-40.


I just think Isner was done, physically. He got pretty close to breaking in the second-to-the-last game but he couldn't close the deal. It was pretty incredible he was able to keep holding serve as obviously fatigued as he was.

My (naturally cycnical) expectation is that tomorrow they will play two games, one with a break, and the match will be over. Hopefully that isn't the case.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    It really wasn't necessarily great tennis, and I gave up watching because there wasn't anything particularly entertaining about it. I think they should use the standard tiebreaker for the fifth set for all rounds but the final. I love dramatic finals showdowns like Federer vs. Nadal, but it's not so great when it's two relative nobodies in a match that will ultimately be pointless because the winner is going to be spent and useless in subsequent rounds.
I must respectfully cry piffle, sir. There have been some great five setters in earlier rounds down the years that have gone past the 6-6 mark. There's no reason why going to, say, 16-14 should irrevocably damage the winner's chances of progressing much further in the tournament, especially when they tend to get a day off after it.

Yesterday was just a ridiculously extreme example that we will likely never see again in our lifetimes, and you don't change rules because of such occurences. That something vanishingly unlikely happens doesn't make it more probable, it just means it was never impossible. This was one of the most extraordinary things to happen not just in tennis, but in all of sports. I can't get my head round people complaining about the quality of tennis on display late on either. Both guys were actually playing really quite well before they understandably wilted late on. It was awesome drama, and Mahut's ridiculous conditioning and Isner's ability to continue serving that well when he was utterly spent were both something to behold.

And you know what? This morning everyone over here is talking about it, and I do mean literally everyone. That didn't even happen after the Fed-Nadal final a couple of years ago. This despite England getting through to the group stages yesterday. People who don't care about tennis in the least caught this last night and were transfixed. I've yet to find someone who watched Germany v Ghana last night because everyone watched Isner v Mahut instead.

It's a genuine, once in a lifetime moment in sport and there are folks whose first reaction is to bemoan the quality or suggest the rules be changed? I tend to go through life with what I consider a healthy degree of cynicism, but can't we at least just take a moment to enjoy and appreciate what we saw yesterday before we make with the grumbles? The internet is a depressing place sometimes.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by dMr
    It's a genuine, once in a lifetime moment in sport and there are folks whose first reaction is to bemoan the quality or suggest the rules be changed? I tend to go through life with what I consider a healthy degree of cynicism, but can't we at least just take a moment to enjoy and appreciate what we saw yesterday before we make with the grumbles? The internet is a depressing place sometimes.

This isn't internet cynicism. I watched until it was suspended because I didn't want to look away. So I can appreciate the "once in a lifetime" aspect of it. Yes it was historic.

But I'm sorry, it was NOT fun to watch. It wasn't dramatic. It won't matter in two weeks. It won't make either of these guys a superstar. It was just incredibly long, incredibly predictable tennis. Never before in my life have I seen a more predictable match. If that match is all people are talking about over there, then they must not know good sports when they see it.

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.51
    Originally posted by dMr
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      It really wasn't necessarily great tennis, and I gave up watching because there wasn't anything particularly entertaining about it. I think they should use the standard tiebreaker for the fifth set for all rounds but the final. I love dramatic finals showdowns like Federer vs. Nadal, but it's not so great when it's two relative nobodies in a match that will ultimately be pointless because the winner is going to be spent and useless in subsequent rounds.
    I must respectfully cry piffle, sir. There have been some great five setters in earlier rounds down the years that have gone past the 6-6 mark. There's no reason why going to, say, 16-14 should irrevocably damage the winner's chances of progressing much further in the tournament, especially when they tend to get a day off after it.

    Yesterday was just a ridiculously extreme example that we will likely never see again in our lifetimes, and you don't change rules because of such occurences. That something vanishingly unlikely happens doesn't make it more probable, it just means it was never impossible. This was one of the most extraordinary things to happen not just in tennis, but in all of sports. I can't get my head round people complaining about the quality of tennis on display late on either. Both guys were actually playing really quite well before they understandably wilted late on. It was awesome drama, and Mahut's ridiculous conditioning and Isner's ability to continue serving that well when he was utterly spent were both something to behold.

    And you know what? This morning everyone over here is talking about it, and I do mean literally everyone. That didn't even happen after the Fed-Nadal final a couple of years ago. This despite England getting through to the group stages yesterday. People who don't care about tennis in the least caught this last night and were transfixed. I've yet to find someone who watched Germany v Ghana last night because everyone watched Isner v Mahut instead.

    It's a genuine, once in a lifetime moment in sport and there are folks whose first reaction is to bemoan the quality or suggest the rules be changed? I tend to go through life with what I consider a healthy degree of cynicism, but can't we at least just take a moment to enjoy and appreciate what we saw yesterday before we make with the grumbles? The internet is a depressing place sometimes.




I think you are confused. You seem to think the process went like this:

I decided I didn't like it, THEN watched the match


... when in reality it went like this:

I watched the match, THEN I decided I didn't like it


Being long and even doesn't mean it was good. Playing good tennis means being able to break your opponent's serve once in a while, in my opinion.

The match is meaningless. I kept flipping over because I'm curious to see exactly how far it goes, but I couldn't bear to watch the whole thing.

It would be like a baseball game in April between the Astros and Diamondbacks that goes 30 innings. Neither team is relevant or very good, and the game is ultimately pointless, but boy it sure is long.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    But I'm sorry, it was NOT fun to watch. It wasn't dramatic. It won't matter in two weeks. It won't make either of these guys a superstar. It was just incredibly long, incredibly predictable tennis. Never before in my life have I seen a more predictable match. If that match is all people are talking about over there, then they must not know good sports when they see it.
Dramatic? No, but utterly incredible as a testament to the fitness and desire of both players, and the simple maths of it alone are utterly mind-boggling and completely discussion worthy. The very idea of 100 plus consecutive holds of serve is just insane. Even random chance shouldn't allow it to happen.

This would be like a playoff game in the NFL going to eight to ten periods of overtime before being decided. It goes without saying that something must've been missing offensively from both teams for that to ever happen. The level of play probably wouldn't be great after a while too, but that doesn't make it any less incredible, and there would still be plenty to admire from the players.

As for "it won't matter in two weeks"? If nothing else, both guys will now be made men at Wimbledon. Any time they play there the crowd will love them and, while it may not make either gent a superstar, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that a lot more people will know the names Isner and Mahut than if this match never happened, and 99% of those people will have nothing but respect for both guys.


    If that match is all people are talking about over there, then they must not know good sports when they see it.
Well that seems.....unnecessary? Sport can get people talking for any number of reasons. It can be brilliant. It can be fun. It can be be exhilirating or it can be excrutiating. It can make you feel the whole range of emotions from joy to despair and from admiration to disgust. Yesterday we saw something that was nigh on a statistical miracle, and it came hand-in-hand with a display of incredible physical and mental endurance and no little talent.

Would I choose to watch a rerun of it this afternoon? Of course not, but I still don't think that people's first reaction after seeing something so remarkable should be to complain, pick fault, or question the effort (??!) of either guy.

I'm sorry, I *do* think it's sad that two guys can go out there, lay it all on the line from sunrise to sundown, and within minutes some folks feel they must pop online to declare "I WAS NOT ENTERTAINED!".

PS: 62-61 Isner now, in case you ain't watching

EDIT: Ah geez....

TheBucsFan: I think you are confused. You seem to think the process went like this:

I decided I didn't like it, THEN watched the match

...when in reality it went like this:

I watched the match, THEN I decided I didn't like it


I don't think I even hinted that I thought that was the case, never mind said that. Kudos for taking what was meant to be a perfectly civil post and responding to it in such a patronising manner though, I guess.

This post has already run much too long for my liking, so to quickly deal with your other points:

1. I never said the quality of tennis was fan-freaking-tastic. Both guys did play some good stuff at times early on, but they both understandably wilted.

2. If you think both guys "aren't very good" then I don't know what to say. Isner is currently flirting with the top 20 (he was 19, but I'd have to double-check where he is now) and was considered a decent outsider for Wimbledon by some. In any event, I disagree with the insinuation that sport is irrelevant if it isn't likely to decide the ultimate winner of a major title.

70-68 Isner, and it's all over now anyway. Let's all be friends eh? Or at least try not to be so condescending when there's no damn reason to, FFS.

(edited by dMr on 24.6.10 1715)
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
And Isner takes it 70-68. They were both falling apart the last couple of games, but the end still felt sudden.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    It won't matter in two weeks.


I mostly agree with Dave on all his points, but I particularly disagree with this one statement. Did you see "Tin Cup", when Kevin Costner keeps hitting those shots into the water then FINALLY makes the shot, Rene Russo says to him (paraphrasing) "in 20 years NOBODY will remember who won the tournament, but EVERYONE will remember your 12." This was these guys' "Tin Cup"-moment, where even they didn't achieve sporting "greatness", they *did* achieve sporting immortality. Because you KNOW every time a Wimbledon or French Open or Australian Open match gets to 10-10 in the fifth, they are going to put up the "longest matches of all-time" graphic, and this match will be on top, likely forever.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by StingArmy
      It won't matter in two weeks.


    I mostly agree with Dave on all his points, but I particularly disagree with this one statement. Did you see "Tin Cup", when Kevin Costner keeps hitting those shots into the water then FINALLY makes the shot, Rene Russo says to him (paraphrasing) "in 20 years NOBODY will remember who won the tournament, but EVERYONE will remember your 12." This was these guys' "Tin Cup"-moment, where even they didn't achieve sporting "greatness", they *did* achieve sporting immortality. Because you KNOW every time a Wimbledon or French Open or Australian Open match gets to 10-10 in the fifth, they are going to put up the "longest matches of all-time" graphic, and this match will be on top, likely forever.

It's definitely historic, JJD, I'm not refuting that. I'm not saying no one will REMEMBER this in two weeks. You're probably right, this will be their "Tin Cup" moment. In fact, it isn't too big of a stretch to say this may be the only memorable thing either of them does in his career (especially for the lesser-regarded Mahut). My point was that it won't MATTER in two weeks. Meaning that whoever won the match (I know it ended up being Isner, but even if it was Mahut) probably isn't going to win any more matches at this tournament, and everyone will go back to focusing on Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, and all the top players on the women's side. If another lesser known player starts making some noise, that'll be the special interest story.

I think TBF's baseball analogy is right on point. It's the story of the day NOW. But it was bad tennis played by marginal players early in the tournament. After another round or two it simply won't matter, broken records or not.

And dMr, I can certainly question at least Isner's desire. Of course no one wanted to just give up the match. Barring sudden injury, I wouldn't expect ANY professional athlete, playing on one of the largest stages of his sport, to just give up. So if that's what you call desire, fine. But yesterday Isner was CLEARLY playing not to lose instead of playing to win. It was written all over his face and came through his body language. You can call it conserving energy if you want, but I will call it boring and uninspired. Meanwhile, Mahut won me over, even before he started laying out (!!!) to save points in the middle of random games.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    And dMr, I can certainly question at least Isner's desire. Of course no one wanted to just give up the match. Barring sudden injury, I wouldn't expect ANY professional athlete, playing on one of the largest stages of his sport, to just give up. So if that's what you call desire, fine. But yesterday Isner was CLEARLY playing not to lose instead of playing to win.


Honestly man, I think he was just done. Completely done. I'm frankly impressed either guy could even stand.

As for not mattering, maybe not in the context of who's going to win Wimbledon, but of course it will matter in terms of why this year's tournament will be remembered. Sport isn't all about who ends up holding the trophy at the end. If it were, about 80% of the players at Wimbledon might as well not show up. Some of the most incredible moments I've seen in sports have involved people or teams of "marginal" talent, especially if your definition of marginal includes a guy that's one of the top 20 or so in the world.

Granted, being Scottish you could argue I *have* to try and get excited about sportsmen of marginal talent, but that's probably another matter.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.74
Isner looked as gassed as he did at the end of yesterday. It looked like he didn't even rest.

Nice little ceremony after the match. I wonder what the gifts were.



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I don't get all the negative comments on that match. So most of you expect in a set with 138 games in total world-class tennis with awesome rallies and hard-fought games? You know, if this would have happened, the match wouldn't have went on for that long. At least one of them would have been way more exhausted than they already were if the games were a little more competitive. That's what made this match so special. I read comments like "that many games without a break doesn't make them great servers, it makes them bad returners". That's complete bullshit. You really wanna tell me that it is not an awesome accomplishment to have served over 130 games without getting a break? Sorry, but both guys gave their all and then some. Such passion and determination, I am still completely stunned, and proud to be a tennis fan!

It won't matter in two weeks? Come on, this match will be talked about for YEARS to come! Seriously, this is a spectacle that most likely will never be matched, not even close.

As for the five-set tie-break, what for? Because every 10 or so years you have a match like this? (Roddick - El Aynaoui Australian Open 2003 coming to mind). No way, this is what makes these matches so special. The feeling that it can be over within a minute, or after an hour (or in this case, a day:-)). That's why the US Open are my least favorite Grand Slam, because the tie-break in the 5th takes away a lot of that special "Grand Slam Feeling".

I feel really bad for Mahut, this match did not deserve a loser. That's usually the most ridiculous line ever, but this time it's true for once. He played qualification already, where he won 24:22 in the second round already, and then a five setter in round 3. This guy is like the Energizer Bunny:-)

To sum it up, thanks both guys for something I still can't wrap my head around. Isner plays de Bakker now btw., who won 16:14 in the 5th in his first round match, so he is really fresh:-). Thanks John and Nic for this unforgettable piece of sports history!
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.05
    Originally posted by StingArmy

    It's definitely historic, JJD, I'm not refuting that. I'm not saying no one will REMEMBER this in two weeks. You're probably right, this will be their "Tin Cup" moment. In fact, it isn't too big of a stretch to say this may be the only memorable thing either of them does in his career (especially for the lesser-regarded Mahut). My point was that it won't MATTER in two weeks.


How many of the matches at Wimbledon will, by your definition, "matter" in two weeks? Tennis isn't a sport where big stars are routinely made, and it's not like a team sport where the emergence of a new player or combination can bring importance to an otherwise lackluster season. I guess the matches which determine the eventual winner will matter, and I'm not sure what else really will unless someone makes a really unexpected deep run. If something so unique doesn't matter, then what does?
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.74
My only point of contention is that almost no one remembers "Tin Cup."



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I found it to be equivalent to the NCAA basketball tournament game between Ole Miss and Valparaiso (or the Bryce Drew game if you prefer) from about 10 years ago. Two men (or teams in that case) fighting for their tournament lives in a tightly contested 1st round match (game) that caputured everyone's attention who was near a television that day, didn't "matter" two weeks from then since both had been eliminated, but certainly added to the mystique of the event itself overall, is still talked about by both die hard as well as casual fans, and has it's highlights shown to this day, as will this match.

Well done by both men with excellent sportsmanship on display throughout as well as some excellent precision tennis. Good show!



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.35
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Isner looked as gassed as he did at the end of yesterday. It looked like he didn't even rest.

    Nice little ceremony after the match. I wonder what the gifts were.
Crystal bowl and six crystal champagne flutes each apparently. Nice touch from the folks at Wimbledon, though it looked like Mahut could've done without having to go through the photographs and ceremony after the match.

Poor guy was back on court to play doubles last night as well. Needless to say, the first set went all they way to a tie-break before bad light stopped play. At this rate he should just pitch a tent on court 18 and be done with it.
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