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A week out from Mania and everything seems set, so prediction time on the show that might be longer than Starrcade '84.

Molly vs. Victoria (Title vs. Hair): A straight title match would probably favor Victoria, so the hair stip does bring some intrigue. However, Victoria wins and Molly becomes the first bald WWF/E Women's wrestler.

Paul Wight vs. John Cena (US Title): Wow, a US Title defense on PPV for the first time in 6 months. They should have moved the belt when Cena beat him in Iraq for X-Mas. Cena wins the belt, as he needs it and the belt needs to be defended.

Jackie blown spot Gayda/Stacy Kiebler vs. Sable and Torrie charisma killer Wilson: In a perfect world the Kane match would be the next match, and he just comes out, chokeslams all 4 and sets them all on fire to help him forget the pain his brother caused him. However, that probably won't happen. Sable and Torrie win because, well, someone has to win.

Booker T/RVD vs. French guys vs. Jindrak/Cade vs. Dudleys (Tag Title match): God, the tag division sucks. RVD at least gets a PPV cut this year. Booker has to be wondering why he opened his mouth last year about retirement and is stuck in tag team oblivion. Dudleys win (when in doubt, pick them), and a Booker/RVD break-up build begins.

Rikishi/Scotty vs. TWGTT vs. Bashams vs. aPa (tag title match): Probably would have been better to go with a battle royale to get the 16 tag wrestlers on the card than 2 four team tag title matches. A heel has to win a belt at some point, the Bashams aren't over, Simmons could retire at anytime, and Rikishi/Scotty are comedy. Thus, by process of elimination, Haas and Benjamin win the tag titles.

Undertaker vs. Kane: Gee, never had this match at Mania before. Since they are bringing back Dead Taker, it makes no sense for him to job on the first night back. Plus, he doesn't job at Mania anyway. Kane jobs yet again. Perhaps he could use a change of scenery to SD with Taker going to RAW. Anyhow, Taker wins. Again.

Cruiserweight Open: Tough match to call. I'll go with the upset of Chavo Sr. dressing as a luchadore and sneaking in the ring to get a quick pin of Chavo Jr., thus keeping the belt in the family. Winner: Conquistador/Thuderfoot/Mr. Wrestling Chavo Sr.

Brock Lesnar vs () Austin ref: The only question on the outcome of the match is how much of a squash it is for Lesnar. If after 2 years of building him they job him to a guy going out the door, they really have lost their collective minds. Lesnar wins easily, and Austin then sneaks in a stunner in case they want to build for Mania XXI around those two.

Foley and partner vs. Flair/Orton/Batista: With this mixture, its doubtful that its the blowoff for Foley/Orton. That'll probably happen at Backlash. Interesting personal match-up with Flair/Foley, considering Foley's comments about Flair from his WCW days in his book. Doubtful though Flair gets pinned at what could be his last Mania. Orton wins with a fluke pin over Foley, thus extending the feud to a one-on-one gimmick match at Backlash.

Chris Jericho vs. Christian: Tough match to call, as Jericho should get his revenge here, but that would kill Christian's push. Trish comes out midway through the match to lend support for Jericho, but takes a bump, causing a concerned Jericho to get distracted and lose to Christian, setting up yet another match for the next PPV.

Chris Benoit vs. Michaels vs. Trip (disputed title): My heart says Benoit. Unfortunately, my head knows that won't happen. The reign of terror by the McMahon son-in-law continues, as Benoit hits a headbutt on Michaels, gets dismissively kicked out of the way by Trip, and then Trip pedigrees Michaels to retain. Sets up Benoit jobbing in his hometown at Backlash.

Eddy Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle (undisputed title): Very easily could be match of the year if they let them go peddle to the metal. Have had excellent chemistry in the past, so this time shouldn't be different. Tough match to predict, as a strong case could be made for either getting the belt. I'll say Eddy retains in disputed fashion, as the only legitimate contenders on the SD side are heels and a win solidifies Eddy as more than a fluke transitional champ in the eyes of the fans.

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"Undertaker vs. Kane: Gee, never had this match at Mania before. Since they are bringing back Dead Taker, it makes no sense for him to job on the first night back. Plus, he doesn't job at Mania anyway. Kane jobs yet again. Perhaps he could use a change of scenery to SD with Taker going to RAW. Anyhow, Taker wins. Again."

I don't think Kane losing the match at WM will hurt him very much. The thing isn't even about a match, its more about the entrance and the suspense of it all. Its been practically a given that Kane would eventually be losing a match against Taker since the very first "sign" at the Rumble.
Earlier in the year "rumors" said that Undertaker would be making one final big run and retire in the near future sometime, maybe in a year or so. If that ends up being true, and Kane & Taker continue the feud after WM, there's a good chance of Kane getting the upper hand in future matches. Also, it seems that he would most likely face Taker in his last match before he retired, after which he could say he finally killed off the Deadman.
So, I see this whole deal with Kane/Taker right now to be a huge push, and not just "jobbing yet again."



"Chris Benoit vs. Michaels vs. Trip (disputed title): My heart says Benoit. Unfortunately, my head knows that won't happen. The reign of terror by the McMahon son-in-law continues, as Benoit hits a headbutt on Michaels, gets dismissively kicked out of the way by Trip, and then Trip pedigrees Michaels to retain. Sets up Benoit jobbing in his hometown at Backlash."

I can't see it happening. Despite whatever politics there might be, its Wrestlemania freakin 20, the end of the show needs a huge babyface title win. Something on the level of, sayyy, Wrestlemania 10, the last big milestone. Benoit is the only guy who can make that happen, as HBK is too much of a tweener now, and Eddie retaining wouldn't be as huge a moment as Benoit winning would be.
If you say that this ruins it at Backlash, because it would be great for Benoit to win the title in his hometown, then you have a point. But in this case, because its Wrestlemania 20, a win (even a less than 100% clean one) in the Triple Threat and a subsequent clean victory at Backlash would be better.

By the way, the three are practicing the match at house shows, and apparently they have been 'very good' to 'amazing'. SWeeeeeeT



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I will predict that Pete Rose gets involved in the Kane-Undertaker match.
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Well, I'm sure my predictions will change somewhere in the neighborhood of 84 times before the show, but here's what I'm thinking at the moment:

Sunday Night Heat
Hurricane & Rosey v. Matt Hardy & Test

Gotta' get Matt on this card somehow. Personally, I'd like to see Tommy Dreamer v. Matt Hardy on Heat, just to get Tommy on the NYC MSG WrestleMania. But, I beleive he was sent to OVW, which means I doubt he'll make it to 'Mania. So, we'll go with good old Hurricane instead. Hurricane pins Matt Hardy to continue the losing streak. MFers around the world riot in the streets.
WINNERS: Hurricane & Rosey

WWE Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Scotty Too Hotty & Rikishi v. APA v. WGTT v. Bashams

I am NOT liking Scotty & Rikishi as Tag champs. APA I'll like even less. I like the Bashams, but they need to be built up better before they get the belts again. That leaves good ol' Benjamin & Haas. However, McMahon doesn't seem to be TOO high on them (for whatever reason). Even so, I'm picking them because they're the only ones that make any sense to me.
WINNERS: World's Greatest Tag Team

WWE Women's Title v. Hair Match
Victoria v. Molly Holly

I'm really torn here. On one hand, I don't see them getting the title off of Victoria this soon. On the other hand, I don't see them shaving Molly's head. However, I can kind of see Vince doing both as well. Funny. I'll go with Molly winning the title here, driving Victoria back to insanity, and furthering the feud.
WINNER: Molly Holly

World Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Booker T & RVD v. Dudleyz v. La Resistance v. Cade & Jindrak

Why are there two fourway tag title matches? Couldn't they have just had this be Booker/RVD v. La Resistance? It has a storyline, and be much better than throwing in Duldeyz and Cade/Jindrak into the match. Oh well. If they give the match some time, it could be suprisingly good. If they give them 7 minutes, it'll be a clusterfuck of disasterous proportions. I could really see any of these teams winning. However, I'll go with Booker/Van Dam, as it's too soon to take the titles off them. Plus, the team's been growing on me over the past few weeks.
WINNERS: Booker T & Rob Van Dam

Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Title

Hey, Ultimo Dragon gets on the MSG WrestleMania! Who'da' thunk it? Too bad Paul London doesn't have the same luck. I'm torn between Mysterio and Guerrero here. I think Chavo needs the belt more. However, I'm thinking WWE might go with the feel-good WrestleMania moment and let Mysterio win it. So...
WINNER: Rey Mysterio

United States Title Match
Big Show v. John Cena

Not exactly the main event that Cena was predicting, but still... I see this as just a way to get the belt off Show and on to Cena. Hopefully they'll treat the belt with some respect now?
WINNER: John Cena

Chris Jericho v. Christian

I LOVE this feud, and hope it doesn't end here. Should be an awesome match. Again, I'm not sure who wins. I'll go with Stratus trying to help Jericho, but accidently costing him the match. However, dramatic after-match events lead to the climactic kiss of Jericho & Trish. YAY!!!
WINNER: Christian

Evening Gown Match
Miss Jackie & Stacy Keibler v. Torrie Wilson & Sable

Torrie & Sable win. That's all I really have to say.
WINNERS: Torrie Wilson & Sable

Brock Lesnar v. Goldberg

Well, what exciting build-up. I can't wait for Lesnar v. Austin and... what? It's Lesnar v. Goldberg? Goldberg's still around? Wouldn't know it by watching the television shows. Well, despite how insanely lucrative Goldberg could be to WWE, he has an attitude. So, considering that this is a business, WWE's saying fuck the money, let's get rid of the guy because he throws temper tantrums. Doesn't seem too smart to me, but I guess that's why I'm not running a wrestling company. Oh well, I like Lesnar, and he could benefit from a win here, so it ain't all bad. I'm sure Austin will play a factor in the outcome. Yes, I really do.
WINNER: Brock Lesnar

The Rock & Mick Foley v. Evolution

They might want to build Foley v. Orton a little more. However, I was under the impression that this was Foley's only match. If that's the case, then there's only one finish that makes sense: Randy Orton getting a clean, pinfall victory.
WINNER: Randy Orton

Undertaker v. Kane

Funny: I've really enjoyed the build up, but am totally dreading the match. Oh well. Undertaker must win here or else the entire buildup to his return is for naught. Plus, I'm sure they'll let Undertaker keep his WrestleMania win streak in tact. Maybe Pete Rose will finally get his revenge on Kane here?
WINNER: Undertaker

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero v. Kurt Angle

Now THIS is what I'm talking about! Totally looking forward to this one. The match should be top-notch. Plus, I thought the whole "Kurt Angle attacking Eddie Guerrero while Eddie's handcuffed" angle was GREAT! I don't know why, but it was one of those things that just made me go "Damn, this is why I watch wrestling". I think it could go either way here. However, I doubt they'll take the belt off of Eddie this soon.
WINNER: Eddie Guerrero

World Title, Triple Threat Match
Triple H v. Chris Benoit v. Shawn Michaels

I'm guessing this is going on last, as this has gotten the bulk of the WrestleMania hype (except for maybe Lesnar/Goldberg, but they'll probably end the show with a title match). Adding Shawn Michaels to the match has totally killed if for me. I mean, I like Shawn Michaels, and I know he can have a good match with both these guys. But, ever since it was changed from Hunter/Benoit to Hunter/Benoit/Michaels, the wind has been totally knocked out of my sails. Oh well. Should still be a good match. I'll go with Chris Benoit, to end WreslteMania XX with the visual of Chris Benoit raising the World Title over his head, as JR screams about how hard Benoit has worked for this moment. Voila; Instant WrestleMania Moment!
WINNER: Chris Benoit

Hey, that doesn't look like a half-bad card. It won't be a WrestleMania XVII or XIX, but it should still be pretty damn good!



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I'll keep my predictions short. Here we go!

WWE Tag Team Title, Fatal Fourway Match
Scotty Too Hotty & Rikishi v. APA v. WGTT v. Bashams

Gotta go with WGTT. Just keep the humorous stuff away from them.

WWE Women's Title v. Hair Match
Victoria v. Molly Holly

Believe it or not, I see a DDQ here. I like the belt on Victoria but it's rather absurd to have Molly shave her head.

World Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Booker T & RVD v. Dudleyz v. La Resistance v. Cade & Jindrak

Dudley's here. You have to have that obligatory "hometown" win in there.

Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Title

Chavo wins here. I am not big on the whole "transitional" champion crap.

United States Title Match
Big Show v. John Cena

Why the hell did Show get it anyways? I don't think he has defended the belt only but once. Cena after the big F-U.

Chris Jericho v. Christian

This is a toss up but I can either see Jericho winning or a no-contest with a Jericho win in April. What will happen? Jericho with the win and probably a whole love united thing after.

Evening Gown Match
Miss Jackie & Stacy Keibler v. Torrie Wilson & Sable

Who cares?

Brock Lesnar v. Goldberg

With Austin being ref, it will be out of control. He will probably drink beer and stun both men. Umm...I'll say Brock with a tainted win.

Undertaker v. Kane

Well, UT is undefeated, he isn't going to lose at WM soon.

The Rock & Mick Foley v. Evolution

Rock has to have his moment in the sun. People's Elbow on Flair for the win. Foley/Orton continues into April.

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero v. Kurt Angle

I do not give a shit what people think. I was in attendance for Brock/Angle and I loved it! I think this has a chance to be a classic. Guerrero only because I hate the transitional champ clause.

World Title, Triple Threat Match
Triple H v. Chris Benoit v. Shawn Michaels

In an earlier post, I said Benoit over Michaels but I still cannot shake the idea that HHH will probably go over both at the same time if he could. My heart says Benoit and I will stick to it.

I know, I have damn near every face going over but this is WM and the face is supposed to win. I am looking forward to this card and I will enjoy it anyways. Later



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Match order should be interesting. I don't think we'll see the Brock/Goldberg, then Rock/Foley v.s Evoltuion, then the World title matches back-to-back-to-back-to-back. That would burn out the crowd. Perhaps put the tag title matches in there somewhere, or the women's match? Anyway, predictions:

Molly v.s Victoria- I'll go with Molly. She CAN'T lose those beautiful locks, and it can't be "we'll just cut her hair shorter"....it already IS relatively short.

Big Show v.s John Cena- Cena gets the win, on his way to a World Title shot this summer perhaps?

Jackie/Stacy v.s Torrie/Sable- I'd love to see some nudity, but I doubt it. Torrie and Sable got the cover, so the RAW divas can get the meaningless win here.

Booker/RVD v.s La Resistance v.s Dudleyz v.s Cade/Jindrak- Common sense says Booker/RVD should win. For once, WWE will agree. None of the other teams are over enough (IMO) for the win (Dudz are stale, La Resistance has been DOA, No one cares about Cade/Jindrak).

Rikishi/Scotty v.s A.P.A v.s TWGTT v.s Bashams- I hate to say it, but I see the APA winning. It SHOULD be TWGTT however.

Undertaker v.s Kane- No brainer. 'Taker's gotta protect that win streak.

Cruiserweight Open- I think it'll come down to Chavo/Rey, Jr. Tough decision...I'll say Rey Rey. Then on Smackdown!, Paul London vents over not being invited, which begins his big push in the cruiserweight division. Hey, I can dream, can't I?

Brock v.s Goldberg- This could be an even more forgone conclusion than the Kane/'Taker match. Lesnar wins.

Foley/Rock v.s Evolution- I was actually mulling this one over when it occured to me: Rock nor Foley are full-time wrestlers...what do they gain with a win? Evilution all the way.

Jericho v.s Christian- No Trish heel turn here; Jericho is the knight in shining armor, destroys Christian, and he and Trish live happily ever after. I've really enjoyed the feud though, and won't be upset if Christian wins to continue it.

Benoit v.s Trips v.s HBK- Benoit pins HBK, leading to Benoit v.s Trips in Edmonton. Vince screws the Canadian fans again, Trips wins there.

Eddie v.s Angle- Tough one. Hopefully, they see Eddie as a long-term champ and he retains, but it doesn't end the feud.




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WRESTLEMANIA XX PREDICTIONS:

Women's Title vs. Hair Match: Victoria [c] def. Molly Holly by pinfall
US Title Match: John Cena def. The Big Show [c] by pinfall
Pissbreak Invitational: Sable & Torrie def. Stacy & Miss Jackie by...uh...tops being ripped off
World Tag Title Match: Booker T & Rob Van Dam [c] def. La Resistance, the Dudley Boyz & Mark Jindrak & Garrison Cade by Booker T pinning a French guy
WWE Tag Title Match: World's Greatest Tag Team def. Rikishi & Scotty [c], the Bashams & the APA by wacky heelish double-team on Scotty 2 Hotty
Wacky Zombierific Zombie Fight: Undertaker def. Kane by hilariously fun squash
Cruiserweight Title Match: Rey Misterio Jr. def. Chavo Guerrero Jr. [c], Tajiri, Akio, the Hurricane and six other various Cruiserweights via West Coast Pop on Chavo Jr.
Stone Cold Referee Match: Goldberg def. Brock Lesnar when Steve Austin stunners both men, then places Goldberg over Lesnar out of hatred of Lesnar and counts the fall
2 on 3 Handicap Match: The Rock & Sock Connection def. Evolution when Rock & Foley go bonzo gonzo and Orton bails, leaving Batista & Flair to get demolished and pinned.
Keep Your Hands Off My Woman, Motherf*cker Grudge Match: Chris Jericho def. Christian by DQ when Christian grabs a chair
World Title Match: Chris Benoit def. Shawn Michaels & Triple H [c] by submission on Michaels
WWE Title Match: Eddie Guerrero [c] def. Kurt Angle by pinfall

And somehow, I hope that Benoit & Guerrero get some kind of meeting backstage (or in the ring) to congratulate each other.



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Triple H vs. HBK vs. Benoit:

Benoit wins the big one! (If not I think Iīm done with wrestling)


Foley & Rock vs. Orton & Batista
& Flair:
Orton pins Foley!


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Angle vs. Eddie:

Eddie retains!


Lesnar vs. Goldberg (R: Austin):

Lesnar wins and gets stunned! Beerbash!


Taker vs. Kane:

12 - 0 @ Mania!


Torrie & Sable vs. Stacy & Jackie:

Playboy bunnies are victorious here!


Y2J (w/Trish) vs. Christian:

Jericho wins, cause he had to lay down the last two years!


w tt
RVD & Booker vs. Dudleyz vs. La Resistance vs. Jindrak & Cade:

5-Star-Heat wins, cause all the other guys involved absolutely SUCK!


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Victoria vs. Molly:

Victoria shaves Molly on live tv!


wwe tt
Rikishi & 2Hotty vs. TWGTT vs. APA vs. Bashams:

TWGTT wins, cause all the other guys involved absolutely SUCK!


cw open
Chavo vs. Kidman vs. Ultimo vs.
Akio vs. Noble vs. Moore vs. Tajiri vs. Nunzio vs. Mysterio vs. Funaki:

Funaki wins title, cause this is wwE!

Just kidding! Unlike last year Mysterio takes the belt home this time!


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Show vs. Cena:

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Molly vs. Victoria (Title vs. Hair): I hope Victoria wins but I highly doubt they'll chop Molly's hair. That would rock if she was bald.

Paul Wight vs. John Cena (US Title): Cena

Jackie blown spot Gayda/Stacy Kiebler vs. Sable and Torrie: Sable and Torrie, stupidest match ever

Booker T/RVD vs. French guys vs. Jindrak/Cade vs. Dudleys (Tag Title match): Booker T & RVD perhaps

Rikishi/Scotty vs. TWGTT vs. Bashams vs. aPa (tag title match): don't really care but wgtt probably

Undertaker vs. Kane: Undertaker (duh)

Cruiserweight Open: Mysterio

Brock Lesnar vs () Austin ref: Lesnar for obvious reasons

Foley and partner vs. Flair/Orton/Batista: against all odds I'll say Rock & Sock because that would make me happy

Chris Jericho vs. Christian: Jericho but either works

Chris Benoit vs. Michaels vs. Trip: I hope Benoit wins but I have this awful feeling HHH is going to win yet again and ruin everything. Damn I hate him!

Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle: I would like to see Angle win but it will probably be Eddie because that just makes sense.
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WWE Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Scotty Too Hotty & Rikishi v. APA v. WGTT v. Bashams

I could mention my fatal fourway tag team match theory again, but you will find it below anyway. For some reason I feel it won't apply here, and something totally unexpected will happen, which is APA gets a last run with the titles before running to the retirement home (TM Eddie Guerrero KotR 2002). But - as pointed out before - WHY IN THE HELL TWO FATAL FOURWAY MATCHES???

WINNERS: APA

WWE Women's Title v. Hair Match
Victoria v. Molly Holly

Are you really believing they will throw a hair gimmick into this when they are NOT following through? No way!!! Plus Victoria just won the title from Molly, so another title change wouldn't make sense.

WINNER: Victoria

WWE Cruiserweight Open
Chavo Guerrero vs. ?

A cruiserweight tournament sounds awesome, and considering the last couple of CW matches, Rey will win it, but lose to Chavo in the end. My idea of the perfect cruiserweight match would be a 20 minutes Mysterio vs. Ultimo, but I gotta keep on dreaming.

WINNER: Chavo Guerrero

World Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Booker T & RVD v. Dudleyz v. La Resistance v. Cade & Jindrak

When you don't know what to do with the tag team champions, put them in a fatal fourway. Throw in randomly selected other teams to fill spots on the card, and in the end make the champions retain. Done to death. Nuff said.

WINNERS: Booker T & Rob Van Dam

Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Title
Hey, Ultimo Dragon gets on the MSG WrestleMania! Who'da' thunk it? Too bad Paul London doesn't have the same luck. I'm torn between Mysterio and Guerrero here. I think Chavo needs the belt more. However, I'm thinking WWE might go with the feel-good WrestleMania moment and let Mysterio win it. So...
WINNER: Rey Mysterio

United States Title Match
Big Show v. John Cena

Not my match, as I love the shit out of the Big Show, and seeing him losing here makes him 0-5 in Wrestlemania matches, which will cause deep depressions on my side. But there's no way he's gonna retain.

WINNER: John Cena

Chris Jericho v. Christian

This match could totally rock, and I am pretty confident it will. Interesting storyline leading into the match, and two highly entertaining guys with hopefully the best promos of the night. Gotta go with Christian too, because a Jericho win would kill Christians push.

WINNER: Christian

Evening Gown Match
Miss Jackie & Stacy Keibler v. Torrie Wilson & Sable

Has Torrie ever....EVER....lost a match? I can't remember.

WINNERS: Torrie Wilson & Sable

Brock Lesnar v. Goldberg

If they make it a squash, I'm done with the show. But they won't. All this smarkish babbling about the suck-rate of Goldberg is the opinion of a few people. The general wrestling fan loves him, and despite all contract situation and what-is-good-for-Lesnar views, this better be a 15 minutes match, including kicking out of the F5 and Jackhammer. Please no blading.

WINNER: Brock Lesnar

Rock 'n Sock Connection vs. 75% of Evolution

Yes!! Rock and Foley back at WM, and I am happy. But it would make Evolution look sooo weak if they lose to two part time/retired wrestlers. Orton will pin Foley anyway (please not another Flair-job!).

WINNER: Evolution

Undertaker v. Kane

The question is not who wins, the question is what happens to Kane afterwards. I am sure he will be stuffed into a casket/buried alive/burnt/crucified or something else, which should really be interesting.

WINNER: Undertaker

WWE Title Match
Eddie Guerrero v. Kurt Angle

A smarls wet dream coming true, and I am totally sure this will rock ten different kinds of asses and become match of the night. Picking a winner is really tough here, but going with Eddie might be more realistic, and a title change would need more build-up.

WINNER: Eddie Guerrero

World Title, Triple Threat Match

I don't hate HHH. I like his personality, his wrestling, his gimmick. What I DO hate is the fact that he was involved in every World Title PPV match since its existance. Plus I had recently the chance to watch the missing 2003 PPVs I didn't see so far, which included Judgment Day, SummerSlam and Unforgiven. And here is my problem with HHH matches: IT'S ALL THE SAME!!! Heavily bleeding, sledgehammer, DQ or win, I can't stand it anymore!! There's nothing more in the world I am looking forward to more than getting the title off of HHH. Unfortunately this is not going to happen here, as it is WM XX, it's the main event, it's HHH. We all know what's going to happen, we just don't admit it.

WINNER: Triple H



Overall thought: I thought they would bring back more big names from the past. As long as there are no surprise appearances, I am pretty disappointed. The actual card looks pretty good, but needs to be spiced up.



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WWE Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Scotty Too Hotty & Rikishi v. APA v. WGTT v. Bashams

I'm reasonably sure champs don't retain and the Bashams need a retooling (no pun intended) at this point...that leaves the aPa to get the Friendly Tap-sponsored nostalgia run or for the launch of Team Angle.

PREDICTION: Team Angle, but they NEED to do their WTR impression on the BIG stage.

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WWE Women's Title v. Hair Match
Victoria v. Molly Holly

I like Molly a lot and in fact...nothing compares 2 her. I can't see them putting the belt on Victoria just to take it off 3 weeks later...and besides, you can't take her off her WWE Women's Title Happy Treatment...it's working. Likewise, Crazy Molly is good, but Crazy Bald Molly is even better.

PREDICTION: Victoria, and I think Brutus Beefcake just fucked himself out of an appearance fee a few weeks ago

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The Cruiserweight Open...winner to get the CW Title and a spiffy green jacket.

Here's the thing: everyone's SAYING Mysterio, and it could be, but usually with these matches, it's usually the guy you don't expect to win that wins.

PREDICTION: Anyone but Kidman and I'm good with this.

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World Tag Team Title, Fourway Match
Spin On It Potsie v. Dudleyz v. La Resistance v. Cade & Jindrak

I wouldn't be surprised if they shock the hell out of everyone and give Cade/Jindrak a shot to have an NAO-type run with the titles. If only because there's really no one else and they could do worse than to launch these two, since Booker/RVD obviously aren't long for being a tag team, the Dudleyz may be having to look for Rocco Dudley their wrestling buddy puppet soon at this rate, and Team Froggy just is not over, even though I like Rob Conway's potential a lot.

PREDICTION: Cade/Jindrak

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United States Title Match
Big Show v. John Cena

The last pseudo-rapper to stand this tall for America was Vanilla Ice's gettup at the 1991 AMAs. By the way, there's a better set of predictions than the match itself, as let's start taking side-bets on the throwback of choice:

Walt Frazier: 3-1
Earl Monroe: 3-1
Willis Reed: 8-5
Bernard King: 5-1
Patrick Ewing 10-1
Lawrence Taylor: 5-1
Any Yankee: 7-1
Any Met: 12-1

Anyway, considering Cena needs the title win more than Show needs to keep it, this would seem to be the biggest no-brainer of the night.

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Not Another Teen Match:
Chris Jericho v. Christian

Could go either way, with Xian getting the cheap win but Jericho wins Trish at the end and they still have a reason to fight again after this is over or Jericho righteously kicks Xian's ass and sweeps off the princess, the end. Although really, Jericho'll be a massive face whether he wins or not so long as he gets Trish in the end, whereas Xian could use his standing to be solidified.

PREDICTION: Xian
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Evening Gown Match
Miss Jackie & Stacy Keibler v. Torrie Wilson & Sable

Winners: The 13 year old fanboys and the nacho vendors.

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BROCK LESNAR vs bill goldberg WITH SPECIAL REF STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN AND HIS BITCHIN' ATV

Assuming the Goldie experiment is over, and it should be, Brock goes over, gets a bigger face pop than Goldberg and has to F5 Austin 7 times in a row put him in a bearhug until Austin's head pops and smear Austin's brains on his chest (but no Angle muttering "you son of a bitch" this time around) to keep his heel status.

WINNER: Brock

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Rock N Sock vs. Evolution

I can't see them not putting the faces over here, if only because Orton has gotten over on Foley a few too many times. Although I don't think Foley OR Rock pins Orton. So faces win, but it's Flair or Batista who takes the fall. Although with Flair's neck injury I don't see him doing much else here.

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The I'm Not Dead Yet You're Not Fooling Anyone Grudge Match

Undertaker v Kane

Once again, Taker's in a no-job situation. Because if you're going to reintroduce him as the old Taker, he isn't going to lose his first match, period.

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Smackdown World Title

Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle

My predition is that this should rule the free earth and a few communist earths as well. Could go either way, but Eddie's quickly making himself an excellent babyface champ and my vote for best face as of right now for the 2004 RSPWs. I think Angle's purpose here is to put him over just that much more as a legit champion.

PREDICTION: EDDY~

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The Triple H Threat Match
RAW World Title

HHH v Shawn Michaels v Chris Benoit

Put it this way: if Michaels is the one who takes the fall to HHH and Benoit is screwed out of the belt but put over as the uncrowned champ, you got your main event for Backlash. And as long as Benoit goes over THERE, he's not buried no matter what some people are going to say if it happens like that. I like the idea of Benoit getting his big WM win, but I don't see it happening here. For buildup reasons though, not because of politics.

Prediction: HHH











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Since: 10.1.02
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by UnsUwe
    WWE Cruiserweight Open
    Chavo Guerrero vs. ?

    A cruiserweight tournament sounds awesome, and considering the last couple of CW matches, Rey will win it, but lose to Chavo in the end. My idea of the perfect cruiserweight match would be a 20 minutes Mysterio vs. Ultimo, but I gotta keep on dreaming.

    WINNER: Chavo Guerrero

    Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Title
    Hey, Ultimo Dragon gets on the MSG WrestleMania! Who'da' thunk it? Too bad Paul London doesn't have the same luck. I'm torn between Mysterio and Guerrero here. I think Chavo needs the belt more. However, I'm thinking WWE might go with the feel-good WrestleMania moment and let Mysterio win it. So...
    WINNER: Rey Mysterio



Dude you picked the same match twice. And a different winner both times.

So I pick Eddie, Benoit, Undertaker, Goldberg, Evolution, Smackdown girls, Jericho, Cena, Mysterio, Dudleys, Victoria, and APA.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.20
    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
    Victoria vs. Molly:

    Victoria shaves Molly on live tv!

I must be feeling saucy today, cuz this sounds kind of erotic.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.78
MY PICKS (short and sweet)

Eddie Guerrero def. Kurt Angle
Chris Benoit def. Triple H and Shawn Michaels
Brock Lesnar def. Goldberg
The Undertaker def. Kane
The Big Show def. John Cena
Sable and Torrie Wilson def. Stacy Keibler and Miss Jackie
WGGT def. APA, Scotty and Rikishi and The Bashams
Jindrak and Cade vs. RVD and Booker T, Dudley Boyz and La Resistance
Victoria def. Molly Holly
Ultimo Dragon wins CW Open (What I can dream!)
Randy Orton and Evolution def. The Rock and Mick Foley - Orton pins Rock!!!
Chris Jericho def. Christian
Steven Richards def. Test (again) - This could happen!



...and that's the bottom line cos jk sed so
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Since: 18.2.04
From: UK

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
1. Scotty 2 Hotty & Rikishi vs A.P.A. vs SPWGTT vs Basham Brothers - WWE Tag Team Championship - Four-way match

Hopefully Haas & Benjamin will get a long reign with the titles; none of the other teams are really deserving of the titles.
Winners: SPWGTT

2. Victoria vs Molly Holly - WWE Women's Championship vs Hair match

I dislike the way they've made Victoria's character so bland, and I don't see Molly getting her hair shaved, so...
Winner: Molly Holly

3. Booker T & RVD vs Dudley Boyz vs La Resistance vs Cade & Jindrak - World Tag Team Championship, Four-way match

I think RVD & Booker are beginning to gain steam together, and keeping the titles on them seems to be the best idea for now.
Winners: Booker T & RVD

4. Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Championship

I think Chavo will sneak out the win here, perhaps screwing Rey again in order to build a long chase.
Winner: Chavo Guerrero

5. Big Show vs John Cena - US Championship match

Easy to predict this one - Cena will win and hopefully carry the belt for a while, like when Stone Cold held the IC Championship in his run towards the top (except Cena hasn't quite got the same rocket strapped to his back).
Winner: John Cena

6. Chris Jericho vs Christian

Jericho wins clean, with a "WrestleMania moment" in-ring with Trish afterwards (comparison to Macho Man/Elizabeth at WM7, but without the overwhelming emotion from the crowd).
Winner: Chris Jericho

7. Miss Jackie & Stacy Keibler vs Torrie Wilson & Sable - Playboy Evening Gown Match

Torrie & Sable will win, because they've done almost no promotion for the match whatsoever. It really makes the RAW team look pathetic when their opponents hardly mention the match or care about it (not that it's meant to have any great meaning...)
Winners: Torrie Wilson & Sable

8. Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg

If Goldberg was sticking around, I'd have him win here. But he isn't, so Lesnar has to win. Someone posted a pretty good booking suggestion here, with Austin getting bumped by an errant spear and Brock hitting the F5 to no count. Goldberg would recover and go to hit the Jackhammer, only to get stunned by Austin. Brock can then hit the F5 for the win. Who knows what other shenanigans will happen afterwards.
Winner: Brock Lesnar

9. The Rock & Mick Foley vs Evolution

I really wanted this match to be a street fight between Orton and Foley, with Orton beating him at his own game (like HHH did at Rumble 2000). However, I'm pretty sure this match will end with a double People's elbow on Batista or Flair for a babyface win. Orton could even walk away from the ring during the finishing moments, so that they can build a future Foley/Orton singles program later on.
Winners: The Rock & Mick Foley

10. Undertaker vs Kane

Undertaker wins and debuts an updated Dead Man look to use for the next few months at least (I'm hoping he doesn't simply come back looking the same as he did in 1990).
Winner: Undertaker

11. Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle - WWE Championship match

Eddie wins a long gruelling match, but the feud continues perhaps one more month.
Winner: Eddie Guerrero

12. Triple H vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels - World Heavyweight Championship, Triple Threat match

I would book this to end with Benoit using the crossface on HHH for the win. This enables HBK to challenge Benoit next month at Backlash with some sort of excuse (i.e. "you never pinned me Benoit").

Winner: Chris Benoit
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.33
"I must be feeling saucy today, cuz this sounds kind of erotic."

I second and third that motion. Here we go with the picks:

Victoria over Molly (I am curiously intrigued to find whether I still find Molly to be my number one hottie after a shaven head)
Cena over Show
Jericho over Christian (Stop with the "killing Christian's push" stuff. This is about Jericho getting revenge and getting the girl. The classics shouldn'e be fucked with)
Booker/van Dam over them there teams (Cade/Jindrak take 'em in a straight tag at Backlash)
The APA over everyone else (They'll drop 'em back to WGTT REAL soon-I can live with this as a retirement give to Ron)
Ultimo Dragon takes the Cruiserweight Open (Its his dream to win a big one at WMXX, and if they had no plans for him I think he'd be in the same position as London-nowhere near the card)
The Playboy Match is a no-contest after they all strip off-and Jackie has a "happy accident", as it were
Rock 'n' Sock over Evolution (Randy gets the one-on-one win a month later)
Brock Lesnar over Goldberg
The Undertaker over Kane
~EDDIE~ over ~HEEL KURT~
HHH over Benoit and Michaels (There is no way on Earth that Benoit is going over here)






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Since: 2.11.02
From: Edinburgh, Scotland

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
Based on the fact that I have no clue how the card will line up.....

In order of decreasing certainty:

Lesnar over Goldberg : Only result that seems viable given Goldie's off.

Taker over Kane: Its WM. Duh.

Cena over Show: Cena needs shiny belt. Crowd needs popping.

Rock 'n Sock over Evolution: But in a manner which leads to Orton v Foley down the line.

Booker T/RVD over lots of other teams: No point giving the belts back to the Duds, and Cade and Jindrak deserve a decent chase in a straight tag match.

Eddie over Angle: Everyone loves Eddie. Angle victory doesn't seem as worthwhile.

HHH over HBK and Benoit: Benoit should go over in Canada to ensure he gets a poptastic reaction.

Jericho over Christian: First one I'm really not sure about, if only because I can't see where they go with Jericho and Trish as a couple long term. Maybe Trish turns to let Christian take the win, but I still say its unlikely.

WGTT over the rest: Because I really can't be bothered thinking about it.

Cruiserweight Open: Rey Rey wins. No idea why so I'll go with why not?

Victoria over Molly: They seem to be pushing Victoria but I cant imagine Molly going bald. I'll go Victoria because the coin said heads.

Playboy thingy: No contest resulting in puppies SUPERBOWL STYLE and a very limited amount of mainstream coverage.




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
    Originally posted by mskj
      Originally posted by UnsUwe
      WWE Cruiserweight Open
      Chavo Guerrero vs. ?

      A cruiserweight tournament sounds awesome, and considering the last couple of CW matches, Rey will win it, but lose to Chavo in the end. My idea of the perfect cruiserweight match would be a 20 minutes Mysterio vs. Ultimo, but I gotta keep on dreaming.

      WINNER: Chavo Guerrero

      Cruiserweight Open for the Cruiserweight Title
      Hey, Ultimo Dragon gets on the MSG WrestleMania! Who'da' thunk it? Too bad Paul London doesn't have the same luck. I'm torn between Mysterio and Guerrero here. I think Chavo needs the belt more. However, I'm thinking WWE might go with the feel-good WrestleMania moment and let Mysterio win it. So...
      WINNER: Rey Mysterio



    Dude you picked the same match twice. And a different winner both times.


And that second one is just copied and pasted from MY predictions. What the hell kind of conspiracy are you running, buster?



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Since: 21.11.02
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
The only prediciton I will make is that HHH is walking out of Wrestlemania with the belt around his waist. There is no way he loses his belt (or the match) on the biggest PPV of the year. No way. I look for HBK to super kick Benoit, knocking Benoit out. Then, while being utterly exhausted, he turns right around into the gut shot/Pedigree for the loss to HHH. Thus, this ends the HHH/HBK feud but leaves HHH open to face Benoit at Backlash where he will most likely drop the belt to Benoit, in Canada. If I was a betting man and needed one sure match to bet on, this would be it. Becasue the only other "sure thing" (Cena/Show) could flip flop to Show winning if enough faces win to even the show out. However, there is no way the Boss' son walks out a loser at Madison Square Garden. In fact, if he does get CLEANLY PINNED, I will never bitch about HHH again.



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Westley: No one of consequence.

Inigo Montoya: I must know...

Westley: Get used to disappointment.

Inigo Montoya: 'kay.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.33
Whilst I take your point, Taker/Kane is easily the runaway sure-thing on the card.



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