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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
It's probably just me, but I feel like I just watched Marcus Bagwell join the nWo while we had one of those failed run ins by the Faces of Fear.

Sayid being Sayid on the alternate time line was interesting since most the other characters seem to do the opposite of what they would normally do.


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Episode 6x6? More like episode 666. Sayid and Claire have been corrupted, Sawyer is allegedly on board, but Jin and Kate are still there in the Monster's camp to wreak havoc.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
I wonder if the fact that Locke did speak to Sayid before he could stab him is why Sayid failed? Is Locke invulnerable so long as he talks to someone before they have the chance to kill him?

I was disappointed that I saw Kevin Durand's name in the credits, because I don't think I would have recognized Omar, so the reveal of Keamy as the loan shark would have been awesome.

If Jacob saved Dogen's son, but he can never see him, how do we know he was saved? It feels a bit like Jacob allegedly curing Juliet's sister's cancer.

I liked Ilana and co. showing up at the Temple just in time to save Miles.

I'm curious where Sawyer and Jin are. What's the point of recruiting if your team just disappears?

I fear Claire.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.49
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Sayid being Sayid on the alternate time line was interesting since most the other characters seem to do the opposite of what they would normally do.

So far, Sayid is the only one in the flash sideways that we haven't seen look in a mirror. Connection?

My jaw is still on the floor from that last scene. Unreal and scary as hell.

The look Smokey shot Kate was interesting, to say the least. Is the reason we didn't see AUSTEN in Smokey's cave simply because it wasn't written there?

Sayid vs Dogen easily tops Sayid vs Keamy as best fight on the show.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    I wonder if the fact that Locke did speak to Sayid before he could stab him is why Sayid failed? Is Locke invulnerable so long as he talks to someone before they have the chance to kill him?

    I was disappointed that I saw Kevin Durand's name in the credits, because I don't think I would have recognized Omar, so the reveal of Keamy as the loan shark would have been awesome.

    If Jacob saved Dogen's son, but he can never see him, how do we know he was saved? It feels a bit like Jacob allegedly curing Juliet's sister's cancer.


* It's interesting that the Others appear to be under the same 'do no harm' rules that Jacob and the Monster were playing under in regards to each other, in that Dogen couldn't kill Sayid himself and couldn't kill the Monster himself. But, candidates (i.e. Sayid) are able to potentially kill the Monster. This is also a sign that Jacob and the Monster are intrinsically different in at least one way, since Jacob was chatting up Ben and Ben was still able to stab him. And, knives work on Jacob.

* Keamy X was awesome. He showed way more personality than the regular Keamy. Omar looked vaguely familiar but I was thinking I'd have to go to Lostpedia to check out who he was before Keamy popped up and it all fell into place.

* That's an interesting point about Dogen's deal in regards to Juliet's deal. Maybe that's how Jacob recruits people to the Others --- promising them that he can 'save' their various loved ones, but actually just creates an alternate reality in which they exist.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
Woo-hoo! Dogen and Lennon got Nikki and Paulo-ed! I was just reaching the point where I couldn't take anymore of them and I was worried about what direction this season was going in. Thanks Sayid!

The island stuff is definitely back on track. I just wish the flash-sideways stuff felt like it mattered. I know we'll get there, but it feels like we're running out of time.

Ilana just became one of my favorite characters because she saved Miles.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.63
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      Sayid being Sayid on the alternate time line was interesting since most the other characters seem to do the opposite of what they would normally do.

    So far, Sayid is the only one in the flash sideways that we haven't seen look in a mirror. Connection?

    My jaw is still on the floor from that last scene. Unreal and scary as hell.

    The look Smokey shot Kate was interesting, to say the least. Is the reason we didn't see AUSTEN in Smokey's cave simply because it wasn't written there?

    Sayid vs Dogen easily tops Sayid vs Keamy as best fight on the show.


FWIW, Kate's name WAS on the dial in the lighthouse, and Cuse said that her name was on the cave wall... crossed out.



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When this thing is all over, I need all the seasons with those damn pop ups. I can no longer keep track.

who were all those people with Smokey? Where did they come from?



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    When this thing is all over, I need all the seasons with those damn pop ups. I can no longer keep track.

    who were all those people with Smokey? Where did they come from?


The Others who took Sayid's offer and left the temple pre-sundown.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
So wait a second ... first it was Jacob that was keeping the Smoke Monster out of the temple, then it was the rings of ash, but now it's been Dogen all this time keeping him at bay? Which is it?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
I think the reason the previews last week said that they couldn't show anything more than a couple of static images was because... well, there wasn't anything to show. The whole episode leading up to the last two minutes pretty much boiled down to two eventful things: Nadia being with Sayid's brother (plus the Jin thing), and Sayid making a deal with Smokey. If they would've shown any more in the previews than what they did, the whole episode would have been really static and tedious until the end. As it is, I'd say this was my least favorite and most coma-inducing episode of the season, up until...

That ending.

Holy SHIT, that ending. To me, that made up for the rest of the episode. Just wow. The whole thing REALLY channeled The Stand, with each entity forming their band of misfits all working under self-serving motives. If the finale is anywhere near as intense as the end of this episode, I will be one happy Lost viewer. Finally, it feels like we have high stakes, and really anyone could die at any time. Love the unpredictability of it all. The massacre of bodies left strewn about was haunting.

I'm still not convinced as to the other Others' motives. Dogen's choice of words when he told Sayid that he had too much of the "wrong" side in him instead of saying "bad," plus the fact that Smokey willingly took those smart enough to leave, makes me think there's something else going on and Smokey may still be in line for a face turn down the line.

Someone mentioned the look that Smokey gave Kate at the end, but did anyone else catch the look that Kate gave the Smoke Monster while she was hanging in the smoke pit with it zooming overhead? Not exactly the look of terror you would expect. It looked a lot more like awe or an epiphany of sorts. Bad acting on her part, or intentional?

Wow, Nadia's kids reminded me once again how much I hate child actors. They were so uber-sweet and sugary and stereotypical, I almost turned the channel. And that little girl had a unibrow to write home about.

I don't have any screencaps, but did Ilana know where that trap door was at the temple because of the hieroglyphic that was on the switch, or because she's been there before?

Next week is Ben. Good god, yes.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
I'll kill you! I'll kill all of you! Kill! Kill! Kill! Die! Die! Die! That about sums up this week's mass murderific episode of Lost. Sayid alone murdered five people in two separate realities, and that was nothing compared to the Smoke Monster.

Poor Dogen. At least we got to hear his tragic and miserable back story before Sayid drowned him. Dogen's another guy who seemingly got screwed by a patented Jacob Faustian Bargain. His fight scene with Sayid was pretty sweet. Best Lost fight scene in a long, long time (my favorite is still Jack's rainy jungle throwdown with Ethan in season one). Dogen was feeling pretty despondent in how his crazy plans to get someone else to kill Sayid kept backfiring. That Sayid's like the Road Runner - he won't go down!

Poor Lennon. We hardly knew ye. But just like his namesake, he was murdered by a crazy Iraqi in a Lazarus Pit. (Wait, is that how John Lennon died? Aw, who cares.) Before Lennon got his throat cut, I was starting to feel pretty bad for him in the midst of the "Smoke Monster's Coming! We're bailing!" panic.

Lennon's head was spinning from the random arrivals alone: Claire strolled into the Temple, then Kate, then Sayid, then the Smoke Monster, then the Ben/Lapidus/Sun Group (sounds like an investment firm). Whatever happened to Temple security? Anyone can just saunter in from out of the jungle all of a sudden? Didn't they have an outer wall?

Miles was pretty awesome. Here's a guy who seems to be completely lacking purpose in the big picture but I think he understands how lucky he is to just be alive, so he's not rocking the boat. He's just directing traffic now.

"Hey Kate, you're back from the jungle. So's that blonde Australian chick. She's still hot."
"Hey, it's you guys! Lapidus! Ben! Remember when I blackmailed you for 3.2 million dollars? Yeah, good times. Let's get the hell out of here!"

Ben also seems to be completely stripped of his power and authority now. He ran like a jackrabbit from Evil Sayid. Maybe one day Ben will remember Sayid shot him when he was a kid. Or maybe he suddenly did. Or maybe he was scared shitless of the psychotic, knife-wielding Iraqi. (Likely.)

No matter what reality Sayid Jarrah is in, someone always wants him to kill or torture someone else. This week, just kill. Kind of neat to see Martin Keamy again. No matter what reality, he's a dangerous criminal. And he always dies. But I suddenly wanted some eggs.

How did Jin go from TSA security to tied up in Keamy's walk-in freezer?

Poor Sayid only ever wants to be with Nadia and can't, but at least in Not Lost, she's alive. Who knew Sayid had a brother?

I really liked how Kate told Claire about how she raised Aaron and came back so Claire and Aaron could be together. She handled that extremely well. Claire would have to be completely insane to not see Kate's sincerity. I also liked Claire being put in the Silence of the Lambs hole. "Claire puts the lotion on her skin or else she gets the hose again."

Kate's reactions to the Gone With The Wind shot of all the dead bodies strewn all over the Temple were great, and she kept that same face following Not Locke, Evil Claire, Evil Sayid, and the surviving Others out of the Temple.

I liked the look on Not Locke's face when he saw Kate: "Whoa, Kate. One of the top three main characters. I got Sawyer, I got Sayid, Claire, and now Kate. My Oceanic 815 All-Star collection is going really well!"

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.04

    I wonder if the fact that Locke did speak to Sayid before he could stab him is why Sayid failed? Is Locke invulnerable so long as he talks to someone before they have the chance to kill him?

You're overthinking. He just meant "you have to kill Locke before he can convince you to not kill him." That, or "get Locke good & mad so he kills you, since we couldn't convince Jack to do it."



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff

      I wonder if the fact that Locke did speak to Sayid before he could stab him is why Sayid failed? Is Locke invulnerable so long as he talks to someone before they have the chance to kill him?

    You're overthinking. He just meant "you have to kill Locke before he can convince you to not kill him." That, or "get Locke good & mad so he kills you, since we couldn't convince Jack to do it."


Yeah, it was never about Dogen thinking Sayid could kill Smoke Locke. It was about Dogen not being able to kill Sayid directly for whatever reason and trying a gambit where he hoped Sayid trying to kill Smoke Locke would result in Sayid being killed. Dogen's been trying to get someone to kill Sayid since he came back to life.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Who knew Sayid had a brother?

Everyone who watched this episode (lostpedia.wikia.com) last season.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Who knew Sayid had a brother?

    Everyone who watched this episode (lostpedia.wikia.com) last season.


Haha. Let me amend that. Who remembered Sayid had a brother? Clearly, I didn't.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
While I enjoyed the episode, the temple set is surely deserving of a Golden Raspberry award for set design. This week in particular, the backgrounds looked like foam and the temple grounds felt impossibly small. It was like something out of a bad 50's movie.

When smokey showed up, it was almost comical how Kate ran in circles because there was nowhere else to run. So let's at least hope this week saw the end of the temple.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
The LOST writers need a little more diversity in their names for male characters. We have Omar (Republican Guard), another Omar (one of Keamy's mercenaries), and, oh yes, an Omer (Sayid's brother). It reminds me of Larry, Darryl, and Darryl from Newhart. Without Lostpedia and a DVR I might have not figured out Omer and Omar (the Republican Guard) were different people and Sayid DIDN'T kill his brother back in the day.

Count me as another who may have taken Dogen too literally when he said Sayid had to kill Smocke without allowing him to speak to him. That's the way I understood it, but I can see how I might have been wrong. Still not convinced either way though.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
    Originally posted by GameCrazy
    I think the reason the previews last week said that they couldn't show anything more than a couple of static images was because... well, there wasn't anything to show.


I have this nagging little fear in the back of my head about this season, in that the two big mysteries - the ones I feel that all the other mysteries/situations on the island should revolve around - are going to be left unresolved:

(1) What was the deal with Walt?
(2) What happens if Charles Widmore finds the island?

Not only have the writers failed to address these issues, the two characters have not even been mentioned (not once!) thus far this season ... and with only ten new episodes left, I fear they've just abandoned these storylines altogether.

Now, I understand that the writers were snake-bit a little bit in terms of Walt, in that the actor who portrays him is now a lot older ... but the kid just seemed like such a BIG DEAL the first couple of seasons - like this non-television clip for example (youtube.com) - it almost demands at least a cursory attempt at a satisfactory resolution (which they're rapidly running out of time to provide us with).

And Widmore seemed to be another major factor in the overall scheme of things ... It was being built up like the ultimate purpose of the island's machinations was to keep him from ever finding the place again (seeing as how time and space was manipulated to move the entire FRIGGIN' ISLAND just to throw him off the trail), but once again that storyline and all its major players - no Charles, no Penny, barely any Desmond - have been cast aside like they don't even matter to the endgame.

I'd hate to think they were just a couple of red herrings that we no longer need to concern ourselves with ...



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
Like Alessandro, I fear that weeks after the series finale has aired, I'm going to find myself waking up in the middle of the night saying things like, "Wait a minute! They never showed us Adam & Eve!!" Or, "Wait a minute! They never explained why Richard Alpert never ages!!" Or, "Wait a minute! What did Shawn mean by 'Only good things can happen?'" (Whoops, maybe I got a little confused on that last one. I'd still like to know the answer to THAT, though!)

Point being, there sure are a lot of small-to-large lingering questions, and I just don't see how they could answer them all while simultaneously putting on quality, non-contrived television. Walt, Widmore, Libby, time travel, four-toed statue, etc. etc. etc.

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