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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
So, "the time for questions is over", unless that question happens to be, "What the fuck is going on?!"

Eh, I'm along for the ride. I have more patience that the story will all come together than I had back in Season 3.

    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
        Originally posted by thecubsfan
        The people on the cave wall are not a list of everyone on the island, it's everyone who's a candidate. Locke got crossed off because his death removes him, but Kate and Miles and others might have never been a candidate.


      Ah, but Jacob did visit Kate as a child. Why would he do that if she's not a candidate? Because she'd grow up to be so pretty? (Good enough reason for me.)


    maybe she did something to get crossed off the list.

    murder?


Jacob visited Kate AND her childhood sweetheart Tom Brennan (toy airplane guy). Yes, Jacob did end up paying more attention to Kate in that scene, but maybe Tom was the one he went there to visit. I wonder if there's a "Brennan" on the cave wall somewhere. Or maybe Kate getting Tom killed removed her from the list of candidates.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett


    Helen's line about bringing John's father to the wedding was creepy... I can't wait to see how Cooper is different.

    I loved that Sawyer knew right away that wasn't Locke. Depressed drunken Sawyer is awesome.




First, the beauty about that little "your dad" sentence to me is that that oughta mean that Locke didn't get pushed out of the window but got paralysed in some other way. Then again, he is a fool who might still have forgiven his father. Interesting.

Second, sorta quoted from the movie rolemodels: Don't bs a bs-er.
Sawyer obviously recognizes a fellow con-man, no matter how supernatural he is

This was an awesome episode. Last week was good as it told us some important background info (tainted people mostly) but this one was awesome again.

I cackled when Smoke-Locke said "inside joke"




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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.20
Has anybody found a confirmation of the numbers and names that were not crossed out? Was James (Sawyer) Ford really #16?! That make all Yankee/Lost fans jizz a little.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.72
    Originally posted by dWs
    Has anybody found a confirmation of the numbers and names that were not crossed out? Was James (Sawyer) Ford really #16?! That make all Yankee/Lost fans jizz a little.

He was #15.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Numbers#Candidates_As_Numbers



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Interesting to see Richard go from calm cool guy to totally freaked out. I'm interested how the others rankings work. Ben was ahead of Richard, but Richard has been there forever, and then there is the Asian dude at the temple.

    Walt used to seem like a pretty big deal, was his name seen on the cave wall?

    Where did we leave Desmund?


Speaking of characters that we haven't heard from. Charles Widmore anybody? We know he and Ben were playing with the same rules as Jacob and Smoke.

From the Season 4 episode, The Shape of Things to Come

WIDMORE: Have you come here to kill me, Benjamin?
BEN: We both know I can't do that.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.91
I thought it was very cool how Locke was the "man of faith", Jack was the "man of science"....and Locke was substitute teacher in...science class!

It will be interesting to see if, in the flash-sideways, Jack is seen watching live when the Sox win the series.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.26
So Richard couldn't see the kid but Sawyer could. Is that because only the "chosen" ones can see images ? Who was responsible for the image of the kid ? Why didn't Fake Locke turn into Smokey to catch the kid when he ran away from him ?

Don't like confident, happy, luckiest guy in the world Hurley. He is much more appealing as a sad sack type of lovable loser.

And the numbers correspond to names - so why were the final six numbers being broadcast on an endless loop per Hurley's fellow resident at Happy Acres who freaked when he heard that Hugo had used the numbers to win the lottery ? Which makes me wonder how Hurley won the lottery in the slideways world since the numbers were never broadcast ? Was Jacob working the Quick Pick machine that day ?

Is it next Tuesday yet ?





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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
    Originally posted by jfkfc
    I thought it was very cool how Locke was the "man of faith", Jack was the "man of science"....and Locke was substitute teacher in...science class!

    It will be interesting to see if, in the flash-sideways, Jack is seen watching live when the Sox win the series.


I thought he was the substitute gym teacher that also got stuck teaching health class.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by jfkfc
      I thought it was very cool how Locke was the "man of faith", Jack was the "man of science"....and Locke was substitute teacher in...science class!

      It will be interesting to see if, in the flash-sideways, Jack is seen watching live when the Sox win the series.


    I thought he was the substitute gym teacher that also got stuck teaching health class.
Which is even better. The man of faith teaches science, the paraplegic teaches P.E.

So if were to believe Douglas Adams (and why wouldn't we) the winning(?) candidate is Jin or Sun. And if Jacob needs a replacement, why wouldn't Smokey? Are Sawyer (the fallen candidate) or Kate (another fallen or a non candidate) become Smokey V2?

Though since the dynamic is one wants to protect the island, one wants to leave... I'd root for Jack/Locke. If Locke was really out of the game Jacob himself would have crossed his name off. Maybe Jacob also found a loophole or his side gets to break a rule too (what's dead is dead) to bring Locke back?

Though the funniest possible outcome is Hurley and Miles continue the game.

Man I'm going to miss being this invested in a TV show next year.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
Ok, so we know the Numbers were used to signify different candidates. But are the candidates numbered in order? Like, was Locke the 4th best option, Hurley the 8th best option, Sawyer the 15th, etc.? Or did Jacob always know that his candidate search for this 'round' of this eternal game he and the Monster are playing would come down to these six? (And thus hence why the Numbers pop up so frequently on the show?)

See, this is where the Numbers playing such an intricate and known part in LOST's storyline trips this theory up a bit. If Jacob dotted the Island with the numbers since he knew that his candidate would be one of these six, then bringing hundreds of others to the Island was pretty pointless. I think it's more likely that the cave isn't Jacob's list at all --- it's the Monster's list of people brought to the Island. He's trying to kill the next candidate so there can never be another Jacob, and he's crossing people off once he deduces they're not the chosen one. The Monster seems to be prevented (as the mysterious ghost kid stated) from killing candidates himself, but he can certainly manipulate others to do it for him. It's interesting to note that none of the people who the Monster did kill (Eko, Norris the pilot, Bram) were listed on the cave wall, so they were fair game to be murdered by him directly. He also chased after Kate and Juliet in the jungle that one time, which may have been his attempt at trying to murder non-candidate Kate.

    Originally posted by jfkfc
    It will be interesting to see if, in the flash-sideways, Jack is seen watching live when the Sox win the series.


Apparently Carlton Cuse tweeted Bill Simmons to reassure him that yes, the Red Sox still win the Series in this alternate reality. (Cuse is a big Sox fan so he wouldn't have it any other way.)

(edited by Big Bad on 19.2.10 0442)


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