Originally posted by thecubsfanFor a smart guy who usually had to be pressured to explain anything, Daniel's dying monologue about Eloise sending him to the island (twice - she said "back to the island" told Whitmore outside the hospital, so I think we've got a Farraday story set during his absence from the island to be told) was unnecessary and annoying. It felt like Lost didn't trust us to think it thru from Eloise's timeline and figure it out ourselves, so they had to hand hold. There's no hand holding on this show!
I don't think it was hand holding at all. If Daniel hadn't told 1977 Eloise who he was and what she just did, she would have just written it off as another Dharma-Hostile encounter and that would be the end of that. Post-1977 Eloise would have never bothered to get Daniel back onto that island.
I got so tripped out about Daniel admitting that "Daniel Was Wrong" (or at least re-opening the possibility) that I don't think I absorbed much else from the rest of the episode. :-)
One thing TPTB have absolutely learned is that the audience knows better than to take any point as *known*, unless they definitively confirm it. Most/many people assumed that Widmore planted the fake 815, & that Eloise was Daniel's mother, but until we got it confirmed in storyline, we had to keep those marked as assumptions. Same thing with making it canon that Eloise has always been so weird because she knew she was grooming Daniel to go back for her to shoot.
I hope he's not dead. (Excellent point about the ComicCon video, EddieB!)
Richard's "Do we know each other?" is great! :-) I want the t-shirt! (And I loved it when Daniel said basically the same thing to Widmore.) And it's become quite a reasonable question. ("What did one snowman say to the other snowman?" "Do we snow each other." Tee-hee.)
I haven't been to any of the other boards yet. I assume the Wired magazine edition that was lying on Daniel's couch has been fully ID'd, & dissected already.
Originally posted by emmaI haven't been to any of the other boards yet. I assume the Wired magazine edition that was lying on Daniel's couch has been fully ID'd, & dissected already.
Doc Jensen at Entertainment Weekly (ew.com) says its the August 2003 issue which focuses on what if super-powers were real. He makes the connection that I immediately did as a subscriber that J.J. Abrams was heavily featured in the current issue so its convenient cross-promotion for it to make a cameo now.
The Enterprise flying through the logo at the beginning was hella-strange.
Enough people are floating even mild spoilers around (I'm tempted to say I'm one with my comicon video reference) that I think I'm avoiding all forums until the finale. See you all in about two weeks!
You believe me, don't you? Please believe what I just said...
This is really freaky because I saw his bust in a display in Hollywood Studios in Disney World yesterday and we were remarking how he was really getting up there in years. One of the true greats and a favorite University of Michigan alum.