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Since: 28.2.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
I believe Hugo Reyes truly is the uncredited screenwriter of The Empire Strikes Back. The secret is out, George.

"That douche is my dad." Luke Skywalker would have been a lot cooler if he said that about Darth Vader. Maybe he did in Hurley's script and George Lucas changed it.

The secret origin of Miles Straume is not all that surprising. Pierre Chang being his father is pretty obvious when he's the only other Asian guy on the Island. Chang's not a douche, apparently. He was a loving dad before he kicked his wife and son out for some unknown reason. The dialogue between Hurley and Miles covered up for it though. "My third day here, I was in the cafeteria and my mother got in line behind me. That was my first clue."

We got the explanation of why Miles wanted to blackmail Ben for $3.2 million last season: exactly double what Widmore was paying him. Everything with Miles costs extra if he can help it.

Lots of good Hurley and Miles comedy this week. Hilarious yakking about the moral of Star Wars was the lack of communication between Luke and Vader. Plus Hurley's power to speak to dead people really is way better than Miles'; except Miles never went insane.

"If you think working in the kitchen is bad..."
"I like the kitchen."

Hurley's deft interrogation of Chang was the most brilliant moment of the episode, maybe of the season. Why did they use Sayid to torture people to get information? Hurley got all the vital info with his direct questioning. He got all the dirt on Chang, especially that he hates jazz and prefers country.

Also cool to see the Hatch being built and Hurley's reaction to numbers being emblazoned on the door.

I also like Phil going to LaFleur to give him the benefit of the doubt about his taking Ben got him punched in the face and tied up.

It's also hard to be sympathetic to Roger Linus. Talk about a douche. Although even in a drunken stupor, he was right on about suspecting Kate. His instincts served him well. They do him credit, but they could be made to serve the Emperor.

Now all of a sudden random people are saying "What lies in the shadow of the statue." I prefer:

"Polar bear poop. Got it."
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14

The Empire Strikes Back bit may have been the single greatest moment in the history of Lost.
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Since: 19.8.05
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
Best Hurley episode ever! "I like working in the kitchen".





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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.20
Given the Dharma video from Comiccon, I think we can extrapolate why Chang kicked his family off the island. Jeremy Davies did an interview for one of the ABC.com podcasts earlier this season where he mentioned that there's more of that video that we haven't seen yet. His reappearance tonight can only suggest we'll see that in the coming weeks.

Lindeloff and Cuse SO need to pay off Hurley scripting Empire by showing Lucas (or a proxy) with Hurley's notebook before the series is out. Lucas should pony up for an appearance given how the show is constantly jamming in references except when it is expounding on bad parents, except when it can do both at once as it did tonight.

So its still not clear if Widmore or Ben staged the crash. (The documents could have been proof of a job well done or proof of Ben's conspiracy), but since it appears that the Shadow of the Statue-ers wanted Miles not to go, and Widmore hired him, does that mean they are aligned with Ben, or are they a separate third party? I'm leaning towards the latter right now, unless that's supposed to explain Ben's relative non-chalance towards everyone trying to open the box last week.

Given how effectively Hurley is at dealing with people, I almost expect him to rip his head off in the season finale and we find out it was Ben in uber-disguise masquerading as lovable to manipulate everyone. But even Ben could never be this effective.

No new LOST next week. Boo.



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Since: 21.1.02
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.87
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    So its still not clear if Widmore or Ben staged the crash. (The documents could have been proof of a job well done or proof of Ben's conspiracy), but since it appears that the Shadow of the Statue-ers wanted Miles not to go, and Widmore hired him, does that mean they are aligned with Ben, or are they a separate third party? I'm leaning towards the latter right now, unless that's supposed to explain Ben's relative non-chalance towards everyone trying to open the box last week.


It occurs to me that they could very conceivably throw us the curve ball of it being the Ann Arbor chapter of the Dharma Initiative being behind the Shadow of the Statue folk...



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    I also like Phil going to LaFleur to give him the benefit of the doubt about his taking Ben got him punched in the face and tied up.

Mr. Read-A-Book-And-Think-Things-Out sure turned into Mr. You-Just-React right quick once the shit was starting to hit the fan. Sawyer's going to find out being in charge isn't so easy once things start falling apart.

Also, Star Wars nerd Sawyer is going to have his mind blown once he finds out Hurley wrote ESB.



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Since: 26.2.09
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.67
I missed a few seconds when it first cut to 1977 Miles reading Sports Illustrated. Who was on the cover? I caught a glimpse of a baseball player, so I'm assuming it was a Yankee or Red Sox player. Right?!

I'm also digging how we're kind of expecting the plot points to appear, now. Everything from Miles' $3.2 M to the numbers being printed on the hatch.

Oh, and I now agree with Miles from last season: "Naomi was hot and I dug her accent".



(edited by dWs on 16.4.09 0020)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by dWs
    I missed a few seconds when it first cut to 1977 Miles reading Sports Illustrated. Who was on the cover? I caught a glimpse of a baseball player, so I'm assuming it was a Yankee or Red Sox player. Right?!



Nope. I'm afraid to start thinking about a deeper meaning of the cover, though I guess there's some obvious ways to go.

(edited by thecubsfan on 16.4.09 0027)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.74
Contented Sawyer all season. Smug Locke last week. Cocky Hurley this week.

I am digging this a lot.



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Since: 9.1.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.42
Does the revelation that Miles can't communicate with cremated people add any meaning or significance to the ring of ash surrounding Jacob's cabin?
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.14
I thought Hurley came off as too cutesy this week.

I take it Myles wasn't actually born on the island or else he would have had the same reactions to time travel as Charlotte did.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I take it Myles wasn't actually born on the island or else he would have had the same reactions to time travel as Charlotte did.

We never actually saw it on camera, but Miles told someone (Sawyer, I think) he too was starting to get nosebleeds during all the flashing/time traveling. So, either he was starting to feel the same effects Charlotte felt, or he was lying for some (currently) unknown reason.

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Eventually they all got nose bleeds though. Maybe the order they got nose bleeds was the one who has been on the island the longest to the shortest. Charlotte was first and Sawyer and Jin were last. Faraday, Juliet and Miles were somewhere in between but I don't remember what order.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05
Charlotte was first to get a bloody nose, then Miles, then Juliet, then Sawyer, then Jin (and then, months later, Josh Matthews). I actually don't recall Faraday getting a nosebleed before Locke shut down by the time-shifts.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Charlotte was first to get a bloody nose, then Miles, then Juliet, then Sawyer, then Jin (and then, months later, Josh Matthews). I actually don't recall Faraday getting a nosebleed before Locke shut down by the time-shifts.


Faraday had already met Desmond who was his constant, so no nosebleeds.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.31
"You're just jealous my power's better than yours" is the best line from any TV show ever.



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#17 Posted on
Daniel popping out of the sub was something else. My immediate question based on Miles' reaction, was did they know that Faraday was off the island ? We only had Sawyer's offhanded reference to him at the welcoming party.

when will kate ever learn to just shut up and look pretty ?

garlic mayo ? I may have to make some of that...

The Miles/Hurley dynamic is great. I can't help but wonder if their Wonder Twin Powers would activate if they gave each other a fist bump and I also can't help but wonder how their powers of speaking to/seeing the dead will come into play.

I have never liked Ewoks either.

I think I need to go watch it again instead of doing my TPS reports.



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Since: 28.2.02
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
After rewatching the episode, I pegged why I reacted so strongly to the scene in the van where Hurley questions Pierre Chang: It's so rare on Lost for ANYONE to directly answer any question. And here was Hurley digging for info with Chang happily answering every question, as if glad someone has taken an interest in him. Meanwhile Miles is squirming in the driver's seat. Just great.

That to me is worth even more than all the Star Wars jokes in the episode.

(edited by John Orquiola on 17.4.09 0907)
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
Loved the look Miles gave his dad when he said he liked country music.
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Definitely one of the better episodes of LOST, up there with Eko's flashback. Got to love the look on Locke and Jack's faces after Sawyer made his entrance. Charlie reveals that he's pretty freaking worthless.
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