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John Orquiola

Since: 28.2.02
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.92

I want to see that catchphrase on T shirts and tagged on walls and street corners all across America.

Miles, Faraday and Charlotte have been on the island 10 days and counting. As far as I can tell, they've had no wardrobe changes. They must smell like island funk, even more than the usual crew of castaways.

Since: 10.12.01
From: VA

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.12
Harold Perrineau was listed in the credits last year for like 6 episodes before he actually showed up. They play games with the credits on purpose.

I think the reason Locke was alone after the first leap (that's right, leap) was the Others reverted to where they were reset to wherever they were when the timeline reset. Locke stayed put because he wasn't on the island yet, so he had nowhere to be reset to.

I popped for Ana Lucia, big time. I liked her character, though I'm apparently in the vast minority on that one. And the "Libby says hi" line, if you didn't love that, you should stop watching the show.

I also popped a little bit for the minor shoutout to one of the worst episodes of the show, the one about Nikki and Paulo (aka, the worst example of a show introducing someone to kill them off). Of course, I just looked this up on Lostpedia because I forgot Paulo's name, and I find out Exposé has been called out a few times before, but I missed it.

I enjoyed the shows, but I've learned I can't think too much about them or my head hurts. For instance, why did the flaming arrows suddenly shoot out towards them on the beach from above the treeline, but yet when the Losties ran into the treeline, the arrows were coming from behind them? The only answer that makes sense (aside from an enemy smart enough to have a split force with a flanking element to rapidly engage from the rear) is that arrows pursuing the Losties into the jungle were more dramatic. had a really interesting piece about how the Pierre Chang/Marvin Candle/Edgar Halliwax "orientation videos" were a metaphor for the the show was talking to their fans while telling the story.,,1550612_20245769_20253740_3,00.html

FIRST APPEARANCE: ''Orientation'' (Season 2, Episode 3)
LOCATION: Station 3: The Swan
ALIAS: Marvin Candle

CHANG SAYS: Hatch occupants must routinely input a code every 108 seconds, without fail, or risk unspecified consequences.
SUBTEXT: ''Keep watching.'' Having just asked the audience to buy into its weird, open-to-interpretation Dharma Initiative mythology, Lost was no doubt sweating the prospect of taxing patience and losing audience. Faithful button pushing = a plea for patience and continued faithful viewing.

SECOND APPEARANCE: ''?'' (Season 2, Episode 21)
LOCATION: Station 5: The Pearl
ALIAS: Mark Wickmund

CHANG SAYS: Hatch occupants must observe a psychological experiment taking place in another Hatch (presumably The Swan) and take careful notes. The implication: that button-pushing business is meaningless.
SUBTEXT: ''Do you trust us?'' Ditching the lab coat for a '70s-era car salesman/game show host suit and sporting a devilish grin, Wickmund embodied the possibility that Lost's many mysteries may not add up to anything, thus making fools of theory-mongers. Did the show truly deserve the obsessive scrutiny of its fans?

THIRD APPEARANCE: ''Enter 77'' (Season 3, Episode 11)
LOCATION: Station 4: The Flame
ALIAS: Unspecified.
CHANG SAYS: Those who manage this station, Dharma's telecommunications complex must execute certain protocols if the ''hostiles'' infiltrate the facility. One of them involves inputting a self-destruct code.
SUBTEXT: ''If the show is going to end, let's end it on our own terms.'' Chang's ominous appearance came during Lost's most troubled season. Critics turned on the show, ratings dropped, and everyone — fans, producers, and even the network — realized that to preserve the cool thing that was Lost, the show needed to move into its endgame story lines, which meant receiving permission to actually end the show.
TANGENTIAL ASIDE: Until this point, the trajectory of Chang's appearances mirrored the evolution of television: from film to video to computer file. Note also the introduction of interactivity: The Flame recording was an Easter egg hidden inside a computer chess game. I find it impishly ironic that this interactivity facilitates the destruction of a station that's basically... an old fashioned television broadcasting facility. Hmmm....

FOURTH APPEARANCE: ''There's No Place Like Home'' (Season 4, Episode 13)
LOCATION: Station 6: The Orchid
ALIAS: Dr. Edgar Halliwax

CHANG SAYS: The Orchid is not what it appears to be. The botanical research unit above hides a secret subterranean lab below nestled against a ''highly volatile and potentially dangerous'' form of energy, a mass of ''negatively charged exotic matter'' which can be harnessed to power a time travel machine. Before he can spell out the implications, the video suddenly stops and rewinds itself.
SUBTEXT: ''It's Goober time.'' Lost boldly comes out of the closet and waves its genre show freak flag, but not without much nervousness. ''Negatively charged exotic matter'' + ''potentially dangerous'' = ''This is a sci-fi show. Here's hoping we don't scare everyone away.''

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Mr Shh
Lap cheong

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
My guess is that whatever the Others did at the Temple kept them immune from leaping.
Shot in the dark

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.05
"Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch?"

Since: 3.5.03
From: Georgia bred, you can tell by my Hawk jersey

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
One last thought for this episode before the new thread for tonight's episode begins:

Remember back in Season 1 when Locke told Boone he had a vision of Yemi's plane crashing in the jungle? And remember how he told Boone it wasn't a dream but instead a memory? That's just like Desmond waking up suddenly and having a new-found memory of Daniel talking to him outside the hatch.

I think that is just super ridiculously awesome writing and I can't wait to see what other flashbacks/dreams/memories from previous episodes are finally explained or fleshed out.

- StingArmy
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Now, I saw this movie with five girls who thought it was great, so your mileage may vary....but I thought it was just so-so. The big problem I had was with the two main characters, both of which I didn't think were likeable.
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