I don't agree with much of what Rush says, but he does it in a very entertaining way and isn't afraid to battle his enemies. I hope he comes through this okay and I'm a liberal Democrat ( a real liberal, not a Clinton one). I do hope he gains a tad bit of humilty from this and compassion for those he rails on for similar faux pas. May this give him some insight into other people's challenges. Maybe medical pot proponents will catch a break from him. Pain is pain.
ThreepMe, I'd like to point out that your thread title is HIGHLY misleading. He has admitted being addicted to "Prescribed Medication". It was alleged that he was taking pills illegally. You have obviously never had an opiate dependency. The injuries he describes sound very painful, and pain relief is necessary. It's just a slippery slope.
You Samoans are all the same. You have no faith in the essential decency of the white man's culture.
What this says to me," he told his listeners that day, "is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
Originally posted by kgriffey79ThreepMe, I'd like to point out that your thread title is HIGHLY misleading. He has admitted being addicted to "Prescribed Medication". It was alleged that he was taking pills illegally. You have obviously never had an opiate dependency. The injuries he describes sound very painful, and pain relief is necessary. It's just a slippery slope.
I don't see what's misleading...
The article clearly says that he admits to abusing painkillers.
In this case pronoun "it" refers to "painkillers."
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I don't see it, sorry.
(edited by ThreepMe on 10.10.03 1534) I would like to congatulate Al Snow on his contact with La-Z-Boy. Because we all know Al doesn't sell chairs. - Mick Foley
I can't count the number of times I've read something he's written and thought "he must be high". I never thought I was literally right.
See, here's the problem I'm having here. I do think that drug addiction is a disease, and I do think that drug addictions deserve treatment and some degree of our sympathy.
But this is Rush Limbaugh we're talking about here. And you've got to stop and ask yourself how Rush, or any of his ditto-head supporters, would react if it was revealed that, say, Al Franken or Michael Moore was addicted to painkillers. Probably similar to his reaction towards Jerry Garcia's death: "When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks."
And then you can feel free to run full-steam ahead.
Okay, so I'm not banned. But still people - Schwartzenegger?!
This is why I never jumped on board the Limbaugh bandwagon....but I do hope the man gets help. First to be drawn through the ringer by the media and being accused of racism, now this. Tough week. But hopefully he'll get through it a better person(whatever that means)
2003 WORLD SERIES(like I said it would be all along)
If Rush were to come out and admit to a Heroine addiction, I might agree with those that are bashing him.
Yes Rush takes the stance that drugs are wrong, and bad for you, but this incident does not make him a hypocrite. All of the Rush bashing for this incident just goes to show how hypocritical some of those on the left really are. Drug addiction of any kind is considered a disease, and something to pity a person for, only if they have Democrat leanings.
How exactly does this make Rush a bad person? He was in pain, had a failed surgery and was prescribed medication, and got addicted. Does anyone deny that some of those high-end pain killers are extremely addictive? Because Rush is human, and became addicted to something a doctor gave him makes him a monster?
People bashing him this time around really disgust me. If he were out on the street buying an illegal drug (heroine, for example), something that was his choice to take in the first place, then yes, he would deserve the hypocrite treatment. Jerry Garcia "destroyed his life" by making the CHOICE to abuse illegal drugs. Rush became addicted to a pain killer given to him by a doctor. One is recreational, the other is medical. If you can't see the difference, you are doing nothing more than showing your really partisain behavior.
I don't always agree with Rush, but a lot of the time I do. But when it comes to a situation like this, I would not care if it was Barbara Freaking Streisand with this problem, she would get just as much pity from me.
Problem is, when people like that (left leaning people I mean) have problems like this, it is considered not worth mentioning by the media.
I hope Rush gets better, and I hope all of the people that are out there bashing Rush, wishing him ill solely because of political beliefs get what is coming to them. The behavior truly is digusting, and does nothing to make me thing that "open dialouge and debate" with them is worth a damn.
Originally posted by Pool-BoyPeople bashing him this time around really disgust me. If he were out on the street buying an illegal drug (heroine, for example), something that was his choice to take in the first place, then yes, he would deserve the hypocrite treatment. Jerry Garcia "destroyed his life" by making the CHOICE to abuse illegal drugs. Rush became addicted to a pain killer given to him by a doctor. One is recreational, the other is medical. If you can't see the difference, you are doing nothing more than showing your really partisain behavior.
He sent his housekeeper out to buy his illegal drugs for him! Oxycontin is illegal without a perscription and it can be a recreational drug (Durante, Anthony).
Blaming the doctor is laughable to me because the odds of getting addicted when following the doctor's orders on a perscription drug are miniscule. He abused them and he got hooked. He even went into detox and got hooked again.
I have more compassion for a homeless person who gets hooked on smack then a multi-millionaire illegaly obtaining perscription drugs and abusing them for YEARS! Not a few months, a few YEARS.
I don't care what political leanings the man has and to blame all criticism of his actions on that, is grasping at straws.
I haven't listened to Rush in over a decade, so he has no real impact on my Conservative beliefs. I did find it humorous though that this story made the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather. Gee, how does this make good ol' Danny Boy's newscast when the whole Condit/Levy thing was considered 'non-news'. People want to rip Rush, hell, I don't care. But its nice as always to see the hypocrisy of Dan 'I won't jump to judgement, as we have no hard news, but we'll make sure that we stay with me instead of regular programming for 5 hours because I say so' Rather.
(edited by redsoxnation on 10.10.03 2201) Where's the spaceship? The Mayor promised a spaceship if we beat the A's, and I want my spaceship.
I just want to make the clarification that I was not blaming the doctor, or anyone for that matter.
I was simply trying to state that Rush was prescribed the drugs in the first place by a doctor, meaning it was a legitimate medical procedure. He became addicted to them. That is a far cry from choosing to become a heroine junky. And yes, it is VERY possible to become addicted to a prescribed drug even when following doctors orders, or else it would not be as common as it is. Pain killers that strong MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. People respond in different ways. Perhaps he should have been more alert that a problem had arisen, but again- this is far from the horrific sin he has been accused of, and is getting smeared for.
The doctor is not to blame, and the housekeeper is not to blame. The addiction itself is to blame. No action needs to be taken against ANYONE, not banning the drug, not bringing the doctor up on charges, save Rush kicking the addiction.
Yes, getting the drug without a prescription is illegal. All I am saying, though, is that some mercy should be afforded Rush because of the situation. I would say the same about anyone under the same circumstances, rich or poor, right or left. Of course my opinion would be different if it was recreational in nature. The fact that they were prescribed in the outset proves otherwise.
I'm reminded upon seeing this how back in the day when I listened every day to Rush he used to have the "Homeless Update" where he would find the funniest stories about those wacky homeless folks and their advocates, many of whom are suffering from addiction to various and sundry drugs (the homeless, not their advocates). There was never any willingness to consider the circumstances that got them into their situation, simply heapings of scorn and disgust at their inability to manage their own lives. Hopefully this will show Rush that sometimes even the best of us cannot manage our own lives, but not all of us are lucky enough to have built a multi-million dollar fortune when those demons take us over. I hope he gets over this, gets healthy, and comes back with a slightly more tempered perspective on things.
No doubt the media is making a big deal of this because Rush's doctor is black, and we all know the media is always pushing to publicize black doctors.
I dunno why Rush is addicted to having Maxx Paine put him in the Fujiwara armbar, but good luck to him in recovery.
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(edited by Big Bad on 11.10.03 0244) "When this bogus term alternative rock was being thrown at every '70s retro rehash folk group, we were challenging people to new sonic ideas. If some little snotty anarchist with an Apple Mac and an attitude thinks he invented dance music and the big rock group is coming into his territory, [that's] ridiculous." - Bono, 1997
So he has a problem. He fessed up. He feels like shit about it (probably). He dislikes drugs, and at the same time was addicted to pain killers.
Gee, I don't like fatness, yet I'm fat. My mother hates smoking, but she goes through a pack a day.
WE ARE ALL HYPOCRITES. To say someone else is a hypocrite is to be a hypocrite. To condemn someone else when you perpetrate acts condemnable is not just hypocracy, but idiotic.
A guy who uses up all his bankroll on crack and finds himself on the streets? Just another shmuck who didn't know how to play the game, my friend. He got caught up with it, he couldn't keep up with it. The dope surpassed him and he got down in the streets. Fuck him.
A guy stops, looks around, and tells the whole country, knowing full well those who hate his guts will hear, that he has a flaw, a problem, and people jump on him. Know what? He'll be back in his home, sipping scotch and scratching his balls before you know it, and he probably won't care what you say. Fuck him too, by the way.
The real winners in all this? The people too unimaginitive or just plain stupid who couldn't argue his points to begin with. You couldn't come up with a rebuttal to someone you consider stupid before, and now he's ripe for the picking that he has a target on his overly wide ass. Open season on the addict!
Fuck Streisand, too. This bitch charges extraordinary amounts of cash just to be looked at up close while she sings. She's worth more than any of us could ever believe, and she feels it's her civic duty to play moral crusader and stand up for the rights of everybody because of it. Not that I'm against charity work, but if someone actually thinks that they're so important that they must help the "little people", then they're no better than some arrogant rich prick who thinks he's to reap from the "little people". Why? They believe in such thing as "little people".
Damn. Three F bombs. I must be tired and cranky.
Kane gets flustered that he didn't get to do something silly this week. Ho hum.
Originally posted by Pool-BoyAll I am saying, though, is that some mercy should be afforded Rush because of the situation. I would say the same about anyone under the same circumstances, rich or poor, right or left.
I wonder if you have the same "mercy" for poor people who develop addictions, but don't have the resources that a nationally syndicated radio host has access to.
And I wonder if someone like Michael Moore were to come out with a similar problem if you would have the same "compassionate" reaction.
(edited by Leroy on 11.10.03 1849) "It's hard to be a prophet and still make a profit." - Da Bush Babees
"Finally, a candidate who can explain the current administration's position on civil liberties in the original German." - Bill Maher on Arnold Schwarzenneger
"You know, I'm a follower of American politics." - President George W. Bush, 8 Aug 2003
As I've said before, if they just called these anti-Bush protests (which they more or less are), I'd be on the front lines. I definitely agree that anti-war folks would not be nearly as vehement if this was Clinton.