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Looks like putting together a "start and park" team could really give you a great ROI. Any takers?

http://sportsbusinessdigest.com/?p=497

Tonight, Hobgood (#91) finished 38th - managing 20 laps of the scheduled 150 and narrowly edging out teammate Chapman (#90) who finished 39th completing 17 laps. Ten of the 43 cards didn't make it to lap 50...which is about par for the course this season.



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I blame the payout scales. When there's hardly a difference monetarily between finishing 20th and 40th, there's no incentive for under-funded teams to run any longer than they have to.

As for MSRP, they've run two cars in every race this season, most of which both have made the race, and parked both in every race. There is no website, and little is known at all about the team (except it's partially owned by former racer/SPEED announcer Phil Parsons). If you're a S&P team looking for sponsorship in order to run a full race, wouldn't you at least set up a website for potential sponsors to visit?

I can see it now...."and the #91 The-W.com car of Justin Hobgood has finished his first race of the season!".

(edited by geemoney on 31.8.08 0038)
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.86
    Originally posted by geemoney
    I blame the payout scales. When there's hardly a difference monetarily between finishing 20th and 40th, there's no incentive for under-funded teams to run any longer than they have to.

    (edited by geemoney on 31.8.08 0038)


Sounds a lot like what Joe Ruttman did a couple of years ago when the cup series didn't always have more than 43 cars in the field. He would qualify in a crap car, run around for the first couple of laps in a race, and then park it to get a check without using any resources in trying to win the race. I hated that so much, but I have to admit that it was smart business- they show that what he earned per lap was much more than what even the champion was earning at the race.

I think more of these cars would want to be competitive but for the buschwackers that dominate the nationwide series. It's the same as having a world class sprinter go against five year old kids in a 100-meter dash. It just never leads itself to a fair fight. And even though I keep hearing how having the cup stars in the series is good for bringing exposure, I find myself watching less and less of nationwide because of how boring and perdictible it is now- having to watch team Gibbs act like HHH in holding down the young guns who can really use this series to propel themselves into the spotlight like Brian Vickers or Martin Truex Jr. did isn't helping NASCAR like they it is.





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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    I think more of these cars would want to be competitive but for the buschwackers that dominate the nationwide series.


There's NOTHING that would make these teams like the MSRP cars competitive. It is ridiculous that they keep putting these jokers in the cars that are the worst in that series - there's NO driver development happening there. Put a young guy in the car and see if he can do something.



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JJD threw me this link.

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/wallace-3000-parking-ticket/


    NASCAR is evaluating how to deal with these cars and were hearing rumblings they may elect to pay only $3,000 to finishing positions 36th through 43rd, figuring this will curb the start and park habit.


It would certainly send a message...but it seems a bit like an overreaction. A bit? Try A LOT. In fact, it seems like it would never ever happen, and is more for conversation than NASCAR actually *doing* something...which I'm sure they won't.

ANYWAY. Are you ferrit or aginnit?

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    Originally posted by CRZ


    Me, I'm still designing paint schemes in my head. And they're UGLY, let me tell ya.


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I think I would be for it, IF they cap it at a certain number of laps or disallow on an accident. I'd hate it if someone who was really trying crashed and only got a few bucks

Maybe if someone had done 80% or more of the last two or three races that they would be excused from this.



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It would be just like NASCAR to do something like this - it's short-sighted at best and NASCAR does nothing if not "shoot first, ask questions later". If they did this, they would pretty much be discouraging both new ground-up Nationwide teams and smaller teams that build a car and go race when the Nationwide Series is at their local track. You'd be risking some pretty serious dough if you needed to get into the top-36. I think they would eventually legislate themselves into 36-car fields.

If this is REALLY a problem, NASCAR needs to do one of two things - ENCOURAGE more full-time teams (I think this would do the opposite) or cut the automatic qualifying rule down from the top-35 to like the top-20. There are only 28 cars that have run every Nationwide race, and since the points-system gives you points for just showing up those cars are pretty much locked in every week.



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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    having to watch team Gibbs act like HHH in holding down the young guns who can really use this series to propel themselves into the spotlight


I don't remember HHH putting magnets under his gas pedal.

Magnets! Can you believe that garbage! It's like a bad Hanna-Barbera cartoon.



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Bad? It was a fine episode when Dick Dasterdly foiled the post Race inspectors the same way.



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