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#1 Posted on
A Star Wars Geek says:

Let's face it, no one gets anywhere in the WWF without a big time signature move. The Axe Kick and the Sidekick have NEVER been sold consistently as one day it could pin an upper midcarder and the next show Bossman could get up from it during a tag match.

Hell, the fact that neither has had their names WWFized (though Cody Dunlap claims JR called the Axe Kick the Ghetto Blaster a few times during InVasion) makes it worse as even Kanyon's Flatliner got the Titan Treatment and became "I'm better than you".

So what should be his finisher? Can they bring back Bookend without hurting Booker T by making him look too much like the Rock? I doub it. So I throw my vote in for him to use the old missile dropkick as a guy his size always looked amazing flying in the air. Harlem Heatseeker BAY-BEE!



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#2 Posted on
A front faced Stunner souldn't be to bad, then again is anyone using The Stroke?



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#3 Posted on
White Boy Says: AMEN!! Harlem Heatseaker all the way! Or the Harlem Hangover. Either of those are amazing moves. But then again, the WWE will make him stay grounded cause God forbid anyone fly high but Jeff Hardy.



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#4 Posted on

    But then again, the WWE will make him stay grounded cause God forbid anyone fly high but Jeff Hardy


A bad knee or two will also do that to ya.



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#5 Posted on
White Boy Says:


    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    A bad knee or two will also do that to ya.

Yeah, either that or Triple H not wanting you to out do him in his matches.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

Look on the bright side...

Triple H is on the opposite show (right now-- wait until KotR, though-- sigh) so for the time being, he can't book himself over Booker T, who is rapidly becoming one of the most over faces on RAW.



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White Boy Says:

eke, you have quite the point there. And I feel your pain with anticipation towards KOTR. It seems that once again Triple H's never ending push will get him on both shows. And I really was looking forward to a good KOTR this year with so many fresh faces.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

Zim,

That's what you get for anticipating a WWF pay-per-view. I'd have thought you'd know better by now... LOL.

Of course, the WWF couldn't possibly have built upon RVD's near-World Title win against Undertaker by having a match between those two at KOTR. Noooooo, they had to have Triple H get another shot at the Undisputed Title-- while the guy he beat for that belt is having to cheat to beat guys like Mark Henry and Faarooq.

Honestly. It truly makes me wonder why I'm even watching in the first place, sometimes.



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#9 Posted on
Local show here in DC is advertising Undertaker facing off against RVD, and that's towards the end of June. Keep your fingers crossed.




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#10 Posted on
Isn´t this like the 87th time we´ve done this thread?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42

    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    A front faced Stunner souldn't be to bad, then again is anyone using The Stroke?


Chris Jericho used the stroke for a while, calling it the "Breakdown."
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan

      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      A front faced Stunner souldn't be to bad, then again is anyone using The Stroke?


    Chris Jericho used the stroke for a while, calling it the "Breakdown."



The Stroke and Breakdown aren't technically the same move, just similar. Both are forward Russian legsweeps, but the Breakdown adds a full nelson. The Stroke just grabs the head and slams it forward (and doesn't THAT sound dirty)

I believe Jericho still uses the Breakdown on occasion.

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#13 Posted on
As far as the Triple H/Undertaker match goes, that's just the WWE trying to keep some continuity in their storytelling. This PPV, it's a Smackdown guy's turn to go for the belt. RVD could hopefully get his shot at the next PPV, barring a feud with the Bossman. I'm assuming that Taker'll win this match, as it'd really be helpful if the belt stopped trading places every month.

This is the biggest weakness of the current setup, though. Since title shots switch between shows, it makes it hard to build up any meaningful feuds over the belt (like the one had by Triple-H and the Rock on 2000, or Kurt Angle and Stone Cold in 2001).
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#14 Posted on
The breakdown would be a good finisher for Booker, except that the move has been cheapened while in use by Jericho. He never won a match clean with it, as it either took a Breakdown on a chair to win, or the opponent simply kicked out, sometimes not even after a long two. If they ever wanted to have the move gain some credibility, they would have to get some upper card guys to stay down for it.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

Eh... I bet the sheep barely even remember Jericho using the Breakdown.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
The name "breakdown" may seem cheesey, but it is perfect for Booker T's WWF persona.
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#17 Posted on
Booker has bad wheels and can't seem to do top rope moves anymore - which royally sucks. I'm assuming that's why we haven't seen the HeatSeeker or even the awesome Harlem Hangover either.


But - FIRST - and foremost - TURN HIM FACE. The crowd wants to cheer him, dammit. :)




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

Gaaa. He is a face. And I think the Booker T as The Outsider of the nWo angle is a great idea.



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#19 Posted on
I wasn't aware that Book had the bad wheels...that sucks, because I agree...his missile dropkick was one of the best.

I hope never to see the "Book End" again...when they started using it in WCW I just groaned. Every black champion doesn't need to be The Rock...

The axe kick can go too...nobody's selling it right, or Book's not getting there fast enough. They sit there bent over for what seems like a year!

A submission move wouldn't work with his current character, it needs to be a "high impact maneuver", to borrow a phrase from JR.

How about...a combination of a Superkick, spin up, and a jackhammer variation? He's got the upper body strength to make it believable.

Just a thought, but I really want to see Booker in more main events.
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#20 Posted on
I was just playing No Mercy, and wow, I know they could never do it, but it would be flat out AWESOME if they let Booker use a top rope Super Powerbomb as a finisher. Now that my friends is a high impact move.


BUUUUUUUT since that will never happen, my vote goes to Death Valley Driver, cuz exposed neck stuff RULES.



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