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|  #1 Posted on 16.8.04 2233.20 | Instant Rating: 3.52 | I think there is one clear choice. EDGE. He hates Randy Orton, as per his promos a few months back when he came back. He is pulling a line between face and heel right now anyway. I suppose they could go with a 3 man group for a while too, but Edge just seems to fit in perfectly with them right now. Looking at the RAW roster, the only other option besides Edge would have to be Christian. But, I think Edge makes a whole lot more sense.
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| #2 Posted on 16.8.04 2234.05 | Instant Rating: 3.91 | How about NO ONE?
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| #3 Posted on 16.8.04 2243.28 | Instant Rating: 3.30 | Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
I think there is one clear choice. EDGE. He hates Randy Orton, as per his promos a few months back when he came back. He is pulling a line between face and heel right now anyway. I suppose they could go with a 3 man group for a while too, but Edge just seems to fit in perfectly with them right now. Looking at the RAW roster, the only other option besides Edge would have to be Christian. But, I think Edge makes a whole lot more sense.
I agree. Edge is the perfect choice to replace Orton. I mean, remember Edge is the guy that ended Orton's 7 month IC title reign. Edge is the IC champion, so that already makes him a viable opponent against Orton. Edge's character needs the reinvigoration of a heel turn, and taking Orton's spot in Evolution would do just that.
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| #4 Posted on 16.8.04 2247.55 | Instant Rating: 3.69 | Is everyone forgetting that just a few weeks ago Edge proclaimed that he hated Evolution and was going to take them down one by one? And the fact that he has been main eventing Raw in some form of tag match every other week against them?
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| #5 Posted on 16.8.04 2251.57 | Instant Rating: 4.70 |
I'd rather see them continue as a 3 man unit instead of getting Edge ... I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for the Edge & Christian reunion ...
Who says they have to replace him now? If a replacement is indeed chosen, it should be an out-of-the-blue swerve ...
Shelton Benjamin, maybe? He's got the cockiness and the "blue-chipper-ness" about him ...
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| #6 Posted on 16.8.04 2252.34 | Instant Rating: 3.30 | Originally posted by bigredmachine29
Is everyone forgetting that just a few weeks ago Edge proclaimed that he hated Evolution and was going to take them down one by one? And the fact that he has been main eventing Raw in some form of tag match every other week against them?
That's true. But Edge also got booed out of his hometown, and could also be suitable motivation for his heel turn. And its pretty clear that Edge's business of taking down Evolution is done, so WWE already pretty much threw it away.
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| #7 Posted on 16.8.04 2253.52 | Instant Rating: 5.59 | I'd say Edge and/or Christian. Those are the two that make the most sense. I could also see them continuing as a three-man group, but I prefer them as a four-man group.
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| #8 Posted on 16.8.04 2304.53 | Instant Rating: 3.09 | I'd rather see Evolution take someone in like Edge, who is useless on his own. And then change their name to the Horsemen...
...mostly because I don't want them to change Orton's theme to some Jim Johnston-sounding rap song while making him hi-five the fans on the way to the ring.
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| #9 Posted on 16.8.04 2307.14 | Instant Rating: 7.43 | Originally posted by geemoney
How about NO ONE?
I like that idea. If Evolution is Past (Flair), Present (HHH) and Future (Batista), they're already full.
I don't see how people are calling this a face turn for Orton. Did his opening promo sound like a face promo?
What if he doesn't leave Evolution at all? Orton seems like the sort of frat boy who might take a beating like that and say, "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" This was a way to humble Orton, but it may not have meant he's out of Evolution.
Isn't it more of a pussy heel thing for Orton to stay with the group and realize he really IS nothing without Evolution? Eventually he may get fed up with the treatment, but I'm not totally sure he's ready to stand up to HHH, Batista or even Flair.
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| #10 Posted on 16.8.04 2334.39 | Instant Rating: 5.66 | Originally posted by The Sham
Originally posted by geemoney
How about NO ONE?
I like that idea. If Evolution is Past (Flair), Present (HHH) and Future (Batista), they're already full.
I don't see how people are calling this a face turn for Orton. Did his opening promo sound like a face promo?
What if he doesn't leave Evolution at all? Orton seems like the sort of frat boy who might take a beating like that and say, "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" This was a way to humble Orton, but it may not have meant he's out of Evolution.
Isn't it more of a pussy heel thing for Orton to stay with the group and realize he really IS nothing without Evolution? Eventually he may get fed up with the treatment, but I'm not totally sure he's ready to stand up to HHH, Batista or even Flair.
This scenario sounds a little too Pedigree-To-Ortonish to really take place. Which means it's perfect for the Raw Satires! Hocking, you reading?
Hopefully Orton doesn't show up next week out of the crowd to RKO Flair, and then starts saying 'Anytime, anywhere' while holding up his fingers to form an O.
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| #11 Posted on 17.8.04 0113.09 | Instant Rating: 2.33 | | I agree Edge is the obvious choice. Which is why I'm going to pick Shelton Benjamin. He's due to return soon, right? A stable like that needs a cocky young guy and I don't think Edge is that guy and Christian doens't need it. | MDK
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|  #12 Posted on 17.8.04 0443.41 | Instant Rating: 1.58 | What about Maven?
That would be out of the blue, he's young, and although he is, well, piss poor in the ring, working with Flair, HHH and Batista he can only improve. Randy Orton wasn't exactly brilliant when he joined Evolution, but he has improved a lot (weird looking submission moves aside).
Besides which Maven seemed to be getting a push before his time off, so he is possibly seen as another star for the future.
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| #13 Posted on 17.8.04 0747.16 | Instant Rating: 4.25 | 
Even with the time that's elapsed, I think there's still enough disrespect between Shelton Benjamin and HHH that we can safely rule him out of Evolution.
Your wild card for Orton's old slot: HBK! C'mon, they shook hands a few weeks ago, right? :-)
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| #14 Posted on 17.8.04 0835.32 | Instant Rating: 4.89 | Originally posted by The Sham
If Evolution is Past (Flair), Present (HHH) and Future (Batista), they're already full.
Actually I see it more as useless (Flair), Past (Triple H), and future (Batista). They don't really have anyone who is at the top of their game in the present. I'd give the final spot to either Edge or Jericho, because we still don't know which one is going heel.
But let's be serious here, this is Evolution, they'll probably add someone who sucks, like Garrison Cade, like the rest of them.
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| #15 Posted on 17.8.04 0901.53 | Instant Rating: 6.64 | I say Shelton Benjamin. He's beaten all members of Evolution and gotten beat down by all members of Evolution, which can be translated into a "mutual respect" thing. HHH can say that Orton has been replaced by a guy they know can get things done because he's beaten them all. Then they can pull the "nobody cared about me and forgot about me when I was injured" card with Shelton and complete the story. Then the Shelton/Orton program that was started before Shelton's injury can continue, but with the sides reversed.
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| #16 Posted on 17.8.04 0910.33 | Instant Rating: 5.59 | Originally posted by The Thrill
Even with the time that's elapsed, I think there's still enough disrespect between Shelton Benjamin and HHH that we can safely rule him out of Evolution.
That's a good point. However, thinking back on some past bookings, I'm willing to bet you're thinking much more logically than the guys that are sitting in the WWE booking room.
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| #17 Posted on 17.8.04 0916.18 | Instant Rating: 4.62 | Originally posted by The Sham
What if he doesn't leave Evolution at all? Orton seems like the sort of frat boy who might take a beating like that and say, "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" This was a way to humble Orton, but it may not have meant he's out of Evolution.
Isn't it more of a pussy heel thing for Orton to stay with the group and realize he really IS nothing without Evolution? Eventually he may get fed up with the treatment, but I'm not totally sure he's ready to stand up to HHH, Batista or even Flair.
Yup. In a title match against HHH, Orton will lay down and give the title back to HHH, and return to Evolution. He'll be a pussy for a couple months, while people like Benoit try to get him to realize that he's an idiot. Randy will gradually turn likeable, and just as he really is ready to stand up to HHH, he'll get hurt...real badly. But not badly enough that he can't recover in time to win the Royal Rumble. | CANADIAN BULLDOG
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| #18 Posted on 17.8.04 0938.33 | Instant Rating: 6.66 | Am I crazy to suggest putting Benoit in that role?
I'm thinking that other than Batista and maybe a heel Edge, he has very few heel opponents left to put him in a serious program with (part of that being the lack of overall heels, but still....).
As a heel, Benoit could work against Jericho (it's been waaaay too long), Eugene, Regal, Benjamin, etc.
He already has reason to challenge Orton again, and having him "befriend" Orton only to turn on him by, say, Unforgiven, gives Orton a challenger that delays the inevitable feud with HHH a little bit longer.
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| #19 Posted on 17.8.04 0947.15 | Instant Rating: 4.88 | If nothing else, it gives Benoit something to do around the top of the card and makes him the #2 or #3 heel in the pecking order as opposed to the #3 or #4 face.
HOWEVER, if the whole point of Orton getting turfed was HHH's jealousy over Orton winning the world title, there's a minor logic gap to put Benoit in Evolution and then have him challenge Orton.
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| #20 Posted on 17.8.04 0954.22 | Instant Rating: 5.69 | Originally posted by CANADIAN BULLDOG
Am I crazy to suggest putting Benoit in that role?
I'm thinking that other than Batista and maybe a heel Edge, he has very few heel opponents left to put him in a serious program with (part of that being the lack of overall heels, but still....).
As a heel, Benoit could work against Jericho (it's been waaaay too long), Eugene, Regal, Benjamin, etc.
He already has reason to challenge Orton again, and having him "befriend" Orton only to turn on him by, say, Unforgiven, gives Orton a challenger that delays the inevitable feud with HHH a little bit longer.
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Why would he accept a (presumably) subserviant role to HHH though? RAW on Monday confirmed that the groups mission was not collective success, but to ensure success for HHH.
I'm guessing either Orton takes his beating and stays part of the group, or they just go with it as a threesome now. If somebody takes over the Orton role (future) they almost inevitably have to challenge HHH at some stage (evolution and all), meaning they'd just have to rehash the same storyline again (insert smarky comment).
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