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The firings have begun. Dick LeBeau is out in Cincy. Tom Coughlin was axed by the Jags. Dave Campo and Marty Mornhinweg are going to be fired shortly. Rumor is Mike Holmgren will have to give up his GM duties to keep his job. I'm sure Matt Millen will be right behind Mornhinweg in Detroit. It's going to be another one of those off-seasons.

One question: If Parcells decides to go to Dallas, how in the hell are he and Jerry Jones, both extreme control freaks, going to coexist?



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If Wannestadt ends up getting thrown into the swamps in Miami, Parcells might end up there. Remember, Calder race track is right next door to Joe Robbie Stadium. Bill can have his horses run at Gulfstream during the big winter meet, then have them stabled at Calder. That, and he'd have a running back, a defense, and 2 games a year against the Patriots/Jets/Bledsoe.



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One of the rumors I heard last night was that Matt Millen will lose his job, either by being fired or by stepping down, and the Ford family is looking to replace him with Ron Wolf. Yes, ex-Pack GM Ron Wolf with another NFC North team. But the twist on that was that, since Mornhiweg won't be around next season, Wolf would look to bring in one of his very good friends and give him a great deal of control over the team - Bill Parcells. I heard it in the midst of a crazy family get-together so take that for what you will.

Why would Wannastedt lose his job? He's kept the Dolphins at the same level every coach not named "Don Shula" in the year of "Not 1972 or that one year in the '80s with Marino" has. 3 good O-linemen in the draft, a good nose tackle, another consistent WR, and he's on top of the AFC East in a few years. God I hate the AFC East. :p



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You have no idea how happy I am to know that Tom Coughlin is finally gone from the Jags. I might actually begin to care about them again!!!!



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The best place for the Tuna is Detroit. He and Jerry Jones would never get along in Dallas since Jones will never give him all of the control, and the New York media would crucify him for coaching the COWBOYS. (Yes, he coached in New England, but BEFORE he coached the Jets, so the situation was different then). Of course, if My Boy McKay has his way, he won't be coaching anywhere... shouldn't have signed the paper before deciding to screw us over, Bill. 'Cause now we're gonna screw you right back.
My hunch is that Mornhinweg goes but Millen stays. The Fords are VERY patient people.



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Since: 26.6.02
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If Parcells goes to Dallas he shouldn't give a rat's ass what the NYC media has to say. I personally hope he goes there just so all the Giants fans who worship him blow a blood vessel in their brains trying to deal with their god now coaching their most hated team. And as a Dallas Fan living in Giants territory, that would give me endless of hours of amusement.




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The big question is:

Does anybody want the Cincinnati job?





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I don't know if anyone on here is actually a Bengals fan, but if there are any, maybe they can explain what's going on over there. After reading what Mr. Brown had to say about how he's handling things, I don't blame the fans for threatening to boycott and turning in their season tickets. Now they just need to follow through with it.

This would be one case where the league offices (if they are able to) would be served by stepping in and doing something about this. That team has gone 55-137 over 12 years, changing quarterbacks, coaches, and god knows what else along the way. Not to mention having all those top draft picks due to being so bad. Sure Kitna seemed to come on toward the end, but it wasn't a Hasslebeck type run, and with the competition (Akili Smith & Gus "Bang Your Head" Frerrotte), they really had no choice but to put him in there.

12 years!! Did the Bucs (who were laughingstocks themselves at one time)ever stay this bad, this long? Did any team? When you've had expansion teams having winning seasons (the new Browns, Jacksonville, Carolina, and probably Houston soon) in the same time as your franchise has been so horrible, something needs to change. I can't see what Brown's insistence is against hiring a GM and a quality coach.



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Considering that Parcells left both Tampa Bay AND Green Bay at the altar after the 1991 season, I doubt Ron Wolf will be calling his number ever again.



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    Originally posted by shockdown
    I don't know if anyone on here is actually a Bengals fan, but if there are any, maybe they can explain what's going on over there. After reading what Mr. Brown had to say about how he's handling things, I don't blame the fans for threatening to boycott and turning in their season tickets. Now they just need to follow through with it.

    This would be one case where the league offices (if they are able to) would be served by stepping in and doing something about this. That team has gone 55-137 over 12 years, changing quarterbacks, coaches, and god knows what else along the way. Not to mention having all those top draft picks due to being so bad. Sure Kitna seemed to come on toward the end, but it wasn't a Hasslebeck type run, and with the competition (Akili Smith & Gus "Bang Your Head" Frerrotte), they really had no choice but to put him in there.

    12 years!! Did the Bucs (who were laughingstocks themselves at one time)ever stay this bad, this long? Did any team? When you've had expansion teams having winning seasons (the new Browns, Jacksonville, Carolina, and probably Houston soon) in the same time as your franchise has been so horrible, something needs to change. I can't see what Brown's insistence is against hiring a GM and a quality coach.






The Bengals fans that used to post left here in a snit a few months ago.
As for the league takeover type move, the league did make the Giants in '79 take George Young as GM when the split in ownership was turning the team into a joke. However, since the ownership is not split, it might not be possible for the league to force the Bengals to hire a competant person.



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To say that Mike Brown is "handling" things is probably an overstatement. The Bengals right now are a mess, to say the very least. If ownership was at least trying to put a winning team on the field, that's one thing. However, Brown ignores the fact that the biggest problem with the franchise probably stares him in the face every day when he wakes up. (That and the lack of scouting.... and the horrible drafting record.... and the defeatist attitude of the fans - which is justified in this case....)

Does anyone know if the city of Cincinatti could sue the Bengals for breach of contract? ("Competitive" - I remember hearing something about this a while ago, but I forgot if it was a joke or not.) THat failing, I, for one, would enjoy it greatly if there's at least one game at Paul Brown next year where nobody shows up just to spite the Bengals' management decisions.

Personally speaking, if I was a candiadate for the Cincinatti job, I'd probably compare it to taking a bullet for someone else. You know that it's not going to be any good for you in the long run, but if you do it, then nobody else is stuck with it. (Okay, that was probably a little grotesque.)







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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42

    12 years!! Did the Bucs (who were laughingstocks themselves at one time)ever stay this bad, this long? Did any team? When you've had expansion teams having winning seasons (the new Browns, Jacksonville, Carolina, and probably Houston soon) in the same time as your franchise has been so horrible, something needs to change. I can't see what Brown's insistence is against hiring a GM and a quality coach.


The Bucs went 14 years between playoff appearances (1983-1997) but were often a middle-of-the-pack team at 6-10 or so, while teams like the Jets, Bears and others took turns putting together embarrasing 1-15 and 2-14 seasons.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 31.12.02 1319)
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Since: 21.7.02
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Ahh well, you can only hide so long

I've been a long time Bengals fan. I still care about them but gave up my tix when they moved into the new stadium. In the 70s they were mostly competitive and the 80s brought us 2 Superbowl appearances (damn those 49ers)!

The current thinking, which probably will prove out, is that LeBeau, by all accounts a great guy and a good football mind, had no control over the players. The San Diego game at the start of the season proved this correct. Apparently training camp left us out of shape(?) and the Chargers just smashed the ball right down our throats.

Then there was the QB controversy Part 2. Offensive co-ordinator wanted Kitna, Mike Brown wanted Ferrotte. Throw in Akili just for fun and our season of "stability" didn't start until the 4th or 5th game. Kitna isn't a bad QB...not a lot of arm strength, but a few more games might have been won if they had avoided the QB tryouts at the start of the season. Actually, Kitna developed a legit deep passing threat with Chad Johnson and our rookie TE played as an offensive option for a change.

It's a dead horse locally regarding Mike Brown. I was out of town this past month and came to town the day they imploded Cinergy field/fired Dick LeBeau. That was fitting.
Brown publicly stated that there would be no front office shakeup..but that the team would be "competitive".

Most of us now are just apathetic. That is sad. I still love going to Steelers games because I have a blast interacting with their fans..who outnumber us!

Bottom line...the Bengals may end up In Los Angeles. Todd Portune, a Hamilton County Commissioner, met with Mike Allen, the District Attorney for Hamilton County to discuss the breach of contract suit. Rather than go public by divulging revenues (increased) through the discovery process, the NFL, and Brown may negotiate with the county.

So, as the average fan, my taxes are higher, my team is a laughing stock and I may be left with no football team at all when it's all said and done.

Let the QB derby begin anew when we draft Carson Palmer!!

Oh yeah, Kitna missed a 1.75 million bonus by 6 snaps.

Sorry for the diatribe...it just is beyond disgusting!

lazzz



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