Is Toshiaki Kawada injured or something? And what about last list's "top 50 American that made you go huh?" Joey Abs? And how the hell did Keiji Mutoh slip to 164 and HHH to 400-something? Those are usually top-100 (if not top-10) guys.
As usual, the best part of the DVDVR 500 was cracking up at the weird-ass names Lucha wrestlers use.
O.K. Dean. I finally have to ask. Since I hail from Richmond Va. U-S-A as well (even less exciting than Parts Unknown) were you Los Fat Boy on the old public access wrestling show? At any rate it was a great show and I miss it. Now the only thing to watch on public access is city council meetings and it's such a fine line between funny and embarrassing I hate to watch it.
I realize almost no one else will know what the hell I am talking about but it was a great to be able to see someone else’s tape library and exclusive footage of indy shows for free once a month or so.
Bubbles? Oh come on Sharon! I’m Ozzy Osbourne the Prince of Fucking Darkness. Evil, evil, more fucking evil not a boatload of fucking bubbles man.
Originally posted by MoeGatesHHH to 400-something?
hmm, I should have worked on that more, regardless, has HHH done anything worthwhile since his return? While I wouldn't call his matches bad, they aren't half as good as he was doing just over a year ago.
Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoHas Rey Jr. even been active lately?
Rey's been doing some work in EMLL. He's not quite up to his work at his prime, though. That does seem like a good place to have him on the list. Nicho el Millonario (Psicosis, and not the AAA one) is working circles around all of the former WCW luchas in the organization though, and, for me, is top-10 on this list.
As for other EMLL guys, Shocker is almost certainly top 5. He's had an incredible run the past little while. Santo & Blue Panther also seem about right. They're always entertaining, but their incredible technical skills sometimes gets hidden when the highspots start.
Wagner can be so erratic sometimes. He'll give a ***** effort in one match, then spend the next one playing to the guy in the crowd with the Wagner mask. I'd rank him in my top 10 luchadore list though.
Haven't seen Dandy lately, but Satanico is the best wrestler on the planet that's older than dirt.
Black Tiger. He's another top-10 lucha guy for me. Halloween has added some wrestling to his crazy bumps that I haven't recalled seeing before. Top 20.
Ultimo Guerrero & Negro Casas. Both worthy picks. The tag match with Bucanero & Santo respectively is still my pick for the Match of the Year in the RSPW awards.
Felino. Top 10. Same thing as Santo/Panther. Bigger spots for Felino, and that was sometimes at the expense of the wrestling. I really need to see some recent Tarzan Boy stuff to see his jump.
I enjoy Rey Bucanero way too much. Great facial expressions and selling as well. Top 15. I think Zumbido is somewhat high. I love his look, but his wrestling has never grabbed me. Virus has dont some great stuff in EMLL lately though. I'd transpose these too, with my watching of more Zumbido footage making this reversable.
Atlantis? ANother oldster, but he isn't too bad. Top 25. If you haven't seen his match at the first EMLL PPV, do so, and do so ASAP. Olimpico is the guy you'll forget about a minute after the match ends, but still be awed by his ringwork during the match. That doesn't make any sense, but it does describe Olimpico. Top 15.
La Parka. This can't be the useless AAA version. It's gotta be the original, and it's a good place for my favourite lucha guy, despite not being EMLL.
Vilanos. See Satanico, Atlantis. Why can't all the 40+ crowd work like these guys?
Tony Rivera & Black Warrior. These are both top 15 for me. Warrior's always been in great matches, and any of his segments with Black Tiger were golden. I'm one of the few that liked his singles match with Tiger from October. Top 5 for him.
I've never, ever liked Bestia, though. He's OK, but near the bottom of my list of EMLL guys I enjoy watching.
I'll dig through the rest of the EMLL folks later.
If I saw this list 4 weeks ago I would have wondered who the hell Shocker was. But after having watched the Galavision Lucha for the past month or so, I am so glad to see Shocker as #1. The guy is doing amazing stuff right now in EMLL, even when he's stuck with the slow old guys.
Lucha is now on Saturdays (not sure of the time).
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at the man.
CRZ NOTABLE QUOTABLE OF THE MONTH: KANE: Triple H...tonight, I will burn the flesh from your body! MICHAEL COLE: OH MY GOD. KANE THREATENING TRIPLE H, SAYING HE'S GONNA BURN THE FLESH FROM HIS BODY! CRZ: Umm, I heard it the FIRST time! -- WWF Smackdown, 9/9/99
Wow, I wonder who AJ Styles dissed on the DVDVRDVDVD to get such a low ranking, ESPECIALLY after Low-Ki was given the #12 spot? I would think that AJ has the better all-around wrestling talent, but then that's why I am not the almighty DEAN~ (always wanted to use a tilde in my reply).
"Oh would you stop being all stealthy and just get in the truck"- Tom Servo
Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoHas Rey Jr. even been active lately?
Scorpio? The same Scorpio, as in Too Cold Scorpio...last I saw his work was tanking.
Vader? Come on what did he get his groove back or something?
163) Ian Rotten 164) Keiji Mutoh ...what?
Goldust at 199? Dean you need to lay off the dark beer there buddy.
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Goldust throws really great punches, sells well, and flies around for such a goofy lard ass. He IS Barry Windham circa 1993 right now. Except in a jumpsuit.
Keiji Mutoh has fallen back into late 90's mode...laying around in rest holds, doing pointless things (dragon screw--->moonsault) and his knees are due for a tune up again. Hence his upcoming Atlantic City appearance.
1) CM Punk in the top 50? MARKOUT! I've seen some of his stuff on Steel Domain Wrestling and thought "hey, he's not bad", but he was (a) a babyface and (b) saddled with the task of wrestling guys who weren't as good as, say, Eddy Guerrero. I HAVE to get some of his stuff on tape now.
2) Kurt Angle, for a guy who seems to be going not very far at a rapid rate of speed, is ranked pretty high- and I'm glad. The man's been so mishandled in his forays into main-event land even though he is the WWF's #1 AND BEST wrestler.
3) Would Chris Jericho be any higher if he was COMPETENTLY booked?
4) I'm a little surprised to see RVD in the mid 200s. Not very much, though- the man couldn't have a ***+ match with EDDY ferchrissakes.
5) What I've seen of Shocker, I've liked. No arguments here. He will, of course, always live in my mind as the man who busted out that BATSHIT headplant tope in that Cibernetico tournament some five years back.
6) OK, I've seen Gedo's mid '90s stuff. Is it safe to say that the difference between Gedo 1995 and Gedo early 2000s is quite possibly the greatest example of a wrestler drastically improving in such a relatively short span of time?
7) Yes, William Regal is a fanfuckingtastic worker, but what exactly did he do this year (besides revive the brass knuckles routine) that placed him in the top 50?
8) Milano Collection AT at #209? What, honeymoon's over?
Uh oh...Lance Storm only coming in at 202...he should have known better than to pick a fight with DEAN~!
"You used it to shove your miserable daughter down our throats week in and week out...not anymore!" - Ric Flair gives me hope, Raw 3/18/02
"I thought it was cool how HHH just tossed Jericho out of the ring and made him vanish, possibly into another dimension, at the end of the match." - Dr. Unlikely says the funniest thing I've ever read on Wienerville
Maybe that's why I loved that match at SummerSlam... It was different from the norm and served its purpose. DDP's heat with Taker was dead at that point - going over would have prolonged it. His time to go over was passed.