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|  #1 Posted on 29.12.03 0223.10 | Instant Rating: 9.41 | New rating feature added to the forum page... this shows the instant rating of that thread at the time that the last poster posted in it.
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| #2 Posted on 29.12.03 0516.05 | Instant Rating: 4.53 | | Well, let me be the first to bring this thread down a level or two. It'll be interesting to see if there are any threads that can maintain a seven around here. I'm not sure that's quite possible since everybody seems to think just about everybody is a 5 or lower. | Matt Tracker
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| #3 Posted on 29.12.03 0925.41 | Instant Rating: 6.15 | Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
Well, let me be the first to bring this thread down a level or two. It'll be interesting to see if there are any threads that can maintain a seven around here. I'm not sure that's quite possible since everybody seems to think just about everybody is a 5 or lower.
Even if you achieve the heights of rankdom -- become the toppermost of the poppermost -- in the end, you're still just a wiener.
(JR voice) Wiener born and wiener bred and when I die, I'll be wiener dead.(/voice)
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker | Guru Zim
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| #4 Posted on 29.12.03 1408.51 | Instant Rating: 8.83 | So... here's the thought.
See, if a bad poster starts a thread, it will have a low rating. To avoid raising the rating of the thread, people with higher ratings should avoid responding to it. In theory, this should result in people actually having an incentive to do what they should be doing - not feeding the trolls.
Also, if I get bored (or if Chris does) we can implement a filter to view only threads with a rating above (x) like we did for the posters.
The moral of the story is: Don't be afraid to give out good ratings if they are deserved. If everyone only rates negatively, all of the posts will have low ratings.
Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid. | spf
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| #5 Posted on 29.12.03 1511.30 | Instant Rating: 7.39 | I find it amusing that the folder with the lowest ratings for the threads seems to be the Site Bashing folder. Perhaps there is some sense that too much negativity can be a bad thing.
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| #6 Posted on 29.12.03 1545.52 | Instant Rating: 5.06 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
So... here's the thought.
See, if a bad poster starts a thread, it will have a low rating. To avoid raising the rating of the thread, people with higher ratings should avoid responding to it. In theory, this should result in people actually having an incentive to do what they should be doing - not feeding the trolls.
Also, if I get bored (or if Chris does) we can implement a filter to view only threads with a rating above (x) like we did for the posters.
The moral of the story is: Don't be afraid to give out good ratings if they are deserved. If everyone only rates negatively, all of the posts will have low ratings.
In theory it makes sense, but I think a lot of times people just don't like what someone is saying in a particular thread and will just stick them with a low number. I find it hard to believe that the curve is so bottom heavy around here. | Guru Zim
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| #7 Posted on 29.12.03 1555.01 | Instant Rating: 8.83 | +--------+-------+
| rating | count |
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| 0 | 1078 |
| 1 | 280 |
| 2 | 220 |
| 3 | 191 |
| 4 | 124 |
| 5 | 149 |
| 6 | 175 |
| 7 | 339 |
| 8 | 358 |
| 9 | 269 |
| 10 | 570 |
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| title | rating |
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| Site Feedback | 6.862500 |
| Ladies Only | 6.692000 |
| Guest Columns | 6.586786 |
| CRZ's World | 5.990000 |
| Politics | 5.814850 |
| Random | 5.632632 |
| Test Forum | 5.583103 |
| Basketball | 5.572453 |
| Baseball | 5.529878 |
| Football | 5.495798 |
| From the KZiM Tower | 5.368209 |
| Hockey | 5.330000 |
| Video Games | 5.080268 |
| Site Bashing | 4.980000 |
| Wrestling | 4.943096 |
| Banished | 3.957143 |
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Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid. | BigDaddyLoco
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| #8 Posted on 29.12.03 1602.38 | Instant Rating: 5.06 | | I stand corrected. It's the middle that is sorely lacking. It looks like you are either loved or hated around here, although I will say that my theroy of people not liking what people say in a certain thread may hold some water by the 1078 zeros handed out. | emma
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| #9 Posted on 29.12.03 1657.03 | Instant Rating: 8.47 | Couple of things ...
Originally posted by Guru Zim
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| rating | count |
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| 0 | 1078 |
| 1 | 280 |
| 2 | 220 |
| 3 | 191 |
| 4 | 124 |
| 5 | 149 |
| 6 | 175 |
| 7 | 339 |
| 8 | 358 |
| 9 | 269 |
| 10 | 570 |
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So that's a summary count of all the "votes for" each rating? Does that include the variously banned, deleted, spindled, mutilated & never-allowed-back users? (If so that would by definition cause some bottom-heavy skew.)
'Tis true -- if I look at the summary of ratings I've given out, I've got a nice bell curve in the upper half, & a bottom-skewed curve in the lower half. (Which includes a bunch of zeroes for people who have long since vanished.) I tend not to give out too many middle numbers -- for some reason I tend to just leave most of those unrated.
The sort by forum is very interesting. ;-> | CRZ
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| #10 Posted on 29.12.03 1734.10 | Instant Rating: 8.65 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
So... here's the thought.
See, if a bad poster starts a thread, it will have a low rating. To avoid raising the rating of the thread, people with higher ratings should avoid responding to it. In theory, this should result in people actually having an incentive to do what they should be doing - not feeding the trolls.
Also, if I get bored (or if Chris does) we can implement a filter to view only threads with a rating above (x) like we did for the posters.
The moral of the story is: Don't be afraid to give out good ratings if they are deserved. If everyone only rates negatively, all of the posts will have low ratings.
That's a TERRIBLE idea! Every time I make fun of somebody, the thread average will be artificially raised! 
(Also, if all I do is click on the chevrons, since I never see the forum pages I'll never see the ratings, making the feature useless to me)
I take it now that we have two CPUs you're going to resume writing all these ballbusting, proc-rich features we love so much?
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| #11 Posted on 29.12.03 1737.06 | Instant Rating: 8.83 | Well, not if you put it that way.
Read the changelog to see how I did it. It's not dynamic - it is basically coded like a trigger in the newthread and newreply routines.
But, the spell checker may be finished at some point, yeah.
Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid. | Downtown Bookie
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| #12 Posted on 30.12.03 0430.19 | Instant Rating: 7.36 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
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| title | rating |
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| Site Feedback | 6.862500 |
| Ladies Only | 6.692000 |
| Guest Columns | 6.586786 |
| CRZ's World | 5.990000 |
| Politics | 5.814850 |
| Random | 5.632632 |
| Test Forum | 5.583103 |
| Basketball | 5.572453 |
| Baseball | 5.529878 |
| Football | 5.495798 |
| From the KZiM Tower | 5.368209 |
| Hockey | 5.330000 |
| Video Games | 5.080268 |
| Site Bashing | 4.980000 |
| Wrestling | 4.943096 |
| Banished | 3.957143 |
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The fact that (excluding the Banished folder) the lowest rated section on this wrestling message board is the wrestling folder means we can add one more item to the list of life's greatest ironies.
Patiently waiting to be Stratusfied. | evilwaldo
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| #13 Posted on 30.12.03 1046.28 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Originally posted by Downtown Bookie
Originally posted by Guru Zim
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| Site Feedback | 6.862500 |
| Ladies Only | 6.692000 |
| Guest Columns | 6.586786 |
| CRZ's World | 5.990000 |
| Politics | 5.814850 |
| Random | 5.632632 |
| Test Forum | 5.583103 |
| Basketball | 5.572453 |
| Baseball | 5.529878 |
| Football | 5.495798 |
| From the KZiM Tower | 5.368209 |
| Hockey | 5.330000 |
| Video Games | 5.080268 |
| Site Bashing | 4.980000 |
| Wrestling | 4.943096 |
| Banished | 3.957143 |
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The fact that (excluding the Banished folder) the lowest rated section on this wrestling message board is the wrestling folder means we can add one more item to the list of life's greatest ironies.
Somehow, that does not surprise me at all.
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| #14 Posted on 30.12.03 1442.34 | Instant Rating: 5.50 | As always, I'd like to thank Guru and CRZ for all the improvements they have made recently on the board. I would like to put forth one suggestion however. Perhaps a 48-72 hour 'Getting to Understand the Board' policy on new members, where by they can post after they become part of the board, but they can't begin a thread until they've been part of the board 2-3 days. It would partially-eliminate the current 'I hate Scott Keith so I'm going to the Wienerboard and starting a thread about him' trend that has begun, and it could lessen repetitive threads. And it would eliminate the occassional nitwit flaming the board with 35 threads before Guru or CRZ can ban them and then have to clean up their mess.
If only Paul Jones had brought in General Skandar Akbar as a technical military advisor, Paul Jones' Army could have thwarted the McMahon infidels and prevented the collapse of wrestling civilization. | Guru Zim
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| #15 Posted on 30.12.03 1449.13 | Instant Rating: 8.83 | Originally posted by redsoxnation
As always, I'd like to thank Guru and CRZ for all the improvements they have made recently on the board. I would like to put forth one suggestion however. Perhaps a 48-72 hour 'Getting to Understand the Board' policy on new members, where by they can post after they become part of the board, but they can't begin a thread until they've been part of the board 2-3 days. It would partially-eliminate the current 'I hate Scott Keith so I'm going to the Wienerboard and starting a thread about him' trend that has begun, and it could lessen repetitive threads. And it would eliminate the occassional nitwit flaming the board with 35 threads before Guru or CRZ can ban them and then have to clean up their mess.
I've thought about this in the past, but there have been a number of insightful first posts that would have been missed had this been implemented. Unfortunately, we have to keep the bad with the good...
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| #16 Posted on 30.12.03 1540.36 | Instant Rating: 8.07 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
I've thought about this in the past, but there have been a number of insightful first posts that would have been missed had this been implemented. Unfortunately, we have to keep the bad with the good...
Would they have been missed, or would they just have been delayed? I know this cuts both ways, but my hunch is that a poor post is less likely to come back, while a good one is more likely to do so.
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| #17 Posted on 30.12.03 1553.41 | Instant Rating: 4.95 |
Or it might discourage new posters from even going through all the trouble of waiting for a 2-3 day probation period just to post in the first place.
But I like the over-all idea behind it all.
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| #18 Posted on 30.12.03 1731.53 | Instant Rating: 5.50 | I think I was a little fuzzy on my original thought: My idea for the 48-72 hour wait was for someone to begin new threads, while during that period they would be allowed to post in already open threads.
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| #19 Posted on 30.12.03 1919.00 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | Originally posted by redsoxnation
I think I was a little fuzzy on my original thought: My idea for the 48-72 hour wait was for someone to begin new threads, while during that period they would be allowed to post in already open threads.
That is a pretty cool idea. The Wrestling Forum seems to be getting overrun with really bad posts started by people with less than 10 posts.
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|  #20 Posted on 31.12.03 1641.02 | Instant Rating: 6.40 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
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| rating | count |
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| 0 | 1078 |
| 1 | 280 |
| 2 | 220 |
| 3 | 191 |
| 4 | 124 |
| 5 | 149 |
| 6 | 175 |
| 7 | 339 |
| 8 | 358 |
| 9 | 269 |
| 10 | 570 |
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One step closer to my sugguestion of actually being able to see the break down the votes of your own rating
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| title | rating |
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| Site Feedback | 6.862500 |
| Ladies Only | 6.692000 |
| Guest Columns | 6.586786 |
| CRZ's World | 5.990000 |
| Politics | 5.814850 |
| Random | 5.632632 |
| Test Forum | 5.583103 |
| Basketball | 5.572453 |
| Baseball | 5.529878 |
| Football | 5.495798 |
| From the KZiM Tower | 5.368209 |
| Hockey | 5.330000 |
| Video Games | 5.080268 |
| Site Bashing | 4.980000 |
| Wrestling | 4.943096 |
| Banished | 3.957143 |
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Ineresting, Hockey bottom of the sports list. Anti-Canadian, naaa probably just Zed not much of a hockey fan therefore the forum doesn't have the benefit of his big score. What really surprised me is how the Politics forum IS NOT at the bottom of the chart, what I've seen if you go off on a Political rants your ratings takes a hit as bad as a Dixie Chick song radio airplay in the deep south LoL... At first I was surprised Wrestling forum is at the bottom but then I thought that most trolls would go to wrestling or site bashing forum so it makes sense for them to bring the rating down.
Speaking of that RedSoxNation idea is a good one, kinda like buying a gun with the waiting period and if you have to wait 2 or 3 days maybe they would just feel it's not worth it to troll around... If it's a quality poster they'll wait 2 or 3 days and no thread is so important that can't wait that long.
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