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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.30
Kimmel, as a guy who grew up as a fan of Letterman, must be thrilled with the idea of causing Leno to be pushed out of the Tonight Show before Letterman leaves the Late Show. Dave wins with an assist from Kimmel. And Leno leaving in 2014 would surely mean Dave would leave in 2015 or so and who knows what happens here.

But...Fallon is only in this spot because NBC tried to this same thing three years ago and then changed their minds months later. This is not done until Leno's gone for two years.

(edited by thecubsfan on 21.3.13 2054)


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37
Leno is naturally taking this move with grace, humility, and dignity, ensuring a smooth transition for everyone involved.

Leno swings at NBC as Fallon jokes about move

Or not.




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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    And Leno leaving in 2014 would surely mean Dave would leave in 2015 or so and who knows what happens here.


CBS should try to hire Leno as Dave's replacement, just to see the shit REALLY hit the fan.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.25
    Originally posted by NY Times article above
    Another complicating factor has been Mr. Leno’s success in the ratings.

    In recent weeks, he has continued to finish first — always in the category of total viewers and usually among viewers ages 18 to 49, the most sought-after group for late-night advertisers.



So, as I understand this story:

Comcast, having shown such ineptitude running NBC that the network actually managed recently to finish fifth in a four horse race, has decided that the best way to improve network fortunes is to revamp the one show it has that consistently wins its time slot, both for overall viewers and for the 18 to 49 demographic.

I would absolutely love to hear what NBC's affiliates have to say about this plan.

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37
Now it's time to start thinking about who replaces Jimmy Fallon. And the early frontrunner is Seth Meyers!


    As if there haven't been enough rumors flying this week about the possible replacement of Jay Leno with Jimmy Fallon, Page Six reports on a replacement for Fallon on "Late Night": Current "Saturday Night Live" head writer and Weekend Update anchor Seth Meyers.

    According to their unnamed source, "Lorne Michaels wants Seth to take over from Fallon. It would be perfect for him. Tina Fey’s name had also come up, but she has said she was too busy to do it.”

    When asked by The New York Times' Bill Carter at an event Monday evening whether he would take the job, Meyers was noncommittal. "Nobody could do that job as well as Jimmy Fallon," said at the time, while declining to elaborate.


You know, I would say that I don't know if I could take a full hour of a Seth Meyers late nite show...but it wasn't too long ago that I said the same thing about Jimmy Fallon, so who even knows anymore?




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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.63
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Kimmel, as a guy who grew up as a fan of Letterman, must be thrilled with the idea of causing Leno to be pushed out of the Tonight Show before Letterman leaves the Late Show. Dave wins with an assist from Kimmel.

I'm sorry... Dave wins WHAT? The longevity award? Seems to me Letterman hasn't beaten Leno at anything else except maybe (MAYBE) public esteem, and that has nothing to do with Kimmel.

I know people want to make this a Leno-Letterman thing, but this is strictly a Leno-NBC thing.

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
NBC announced it. The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon is official. (insidetv.ew.com)

Can history somehow repeat itself twice?



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.21
I mean, this is amazing. Is there different people in charge at NBC than there were 3 years ago? Was the switch back to Jay Leno because they had soured on Conan so quickly? This whole series of events just continues to be baffling.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
Read Bill Carter's "The War for Late Night" for the answer to your questions.

I'm not a Fallon fan, but at some point in the future I'll attend a taping of The Tonight Show at 30 Rock, and the prospect of that excites me.



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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    I mean, this is amazing. Is there different people in charge at NBC than there were 3 years ago? Was the switch back to Jay Leno because they had soured on Conan so quickly? This whole series of events just continues to be baffling.

Yes. The last fiasco (Jay > Conan > Jay) was done under the old General Electric ownership; NBC has been purchased by Comcast since then and there's a new set of suits in charge with it.

Personally, the fact that they are uprooting the show from Los Angeles to New York for Jimmy and putting Lorne Michaels and his co-horts in charge is a sure sign there's going to be no backsies this time and Jay's days are truly done. (It's sad because if Conan had been given this kind of support from the beginning of *his* transition, Conan's Tonight Show probably would've survived - at the very least, Conan needed to stay in New York a hell of a lot more than Jimmy does.)



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.44
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Personally, the fact that they are uprooting the show from Los Angeles to New York for Jimmy and putting Lorne Michaels and his co-horts in charge is a sure sign there's going to be no backsies this time and Jay's days are truly done. (It's sad because if Conan had been given this kind of support from the beginning of *his* transition, Conan's Tonight Show probably would've survived - at the very least, Conan needed to stay in New York a hell of a lot more than Jimmy does.)
I get why they're moving the show from CA to NY, but wont it be weird for NBC to have NO late night talk show presence in Los Angeles? I always thought them having shows on both coasts help them cover both entertainment capitals on the US and now they wont have that.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
This way it'll be easier to stack bookings (appearances) - going from 'Today' to 'Tonight' to 'Late Night' without leaving the building*. It's what they do with GMA, Live with Kelly and The View most days. It'll most likely be a boon for Late Night's booking department, and leave poor Craig Ferguson out on the left coast all alone, which may help him as well.


*I'm sure they'll leave the building between 9AM and 5PM (when Tonight will probably tape.)





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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    I get why they're moving the show from CA to NY, but wont it be weird for NBC to have NO late night talk show presence in Los Angeles? I always thought them having shows on both coasts help them cover both entertainment capitals on the US and now they wont have that.

Well, they do still have Carson Daly out in LA. (But as you pretty well demonstrated, no one cares about him, poor guy.)



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      I get why they're moving the show from CA to NY, but wont it be weird for NBC to have NO late night talk show presence in Los Angeles? I always thought them having shows on both coasts help them cover both entertainment capitals on the US and now they wont have that.

    Well, they do still have Carson Daly out in LA. (But as you pretty well demonstrated, no one cares about him, poor guy.)

And Carson Daly's show isn't a "late-night talk show" in the strictest sense anymore. It's more like a magazine-format entertainment show. All canned segments.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.30
Leno says he's totally fine with this. Though he put up a happy face last time too.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.81


Well, there is that one guy who's been struck by lightning seven times.

So I suppose the precedent is there for this to go on for another couple decades or so.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
Letterman was pretty funny at the Late Show taping today. (deadline.com)


Dave's comments below:




    Originally posted by David Letterman
    “Now earlier today, NBC announced that Jimmy Fallon will take over for Jay Leno as host of the ‘Tonight Show’ in February of 2014. This is – something’s wrong here. This happened once before with Conan O’Brien, and then they had to bring Jay back, and so he had to start his show all over again, and now it looks like the same thing is happening. And I just – I don’t get this. He’s retiring, so it says, and good for him. I’ve known him 38 years. I’ve known Jay Leno for 38 years, thank you. I don’t know what aspect of that you’re applauding, but thank you…So now he’s out again, but going out on top. So congratulations to Jay, a job well done. And, I mean, how many times can a guy be pushed out of the job, I mean. And what’s the matter with NBC? What’s the matter with these guys? You know, honestly, what are they thinking…?
    “…And, as with everything in life, all I really care about is how will this affect me? That’s all I really care about. And, Paul, is there any way NBC can push me out of this job? Can they do that? I don’t know…So, here’s what it’s going to be, Paul. It’s going to be you and me and two guys named Jimmy. Right there, that’s not right. No, no, right now, we have a Jay, we have a Jimmy, we have a Dave. Oh, forget that. In February, kiss that goodbye – Jimmy, Jimmy, Dave…But good luck to Jay. I know he’ll be out on the road, getting it done and taking care of business and congratulations on a nice long run there at the ‘Tonight Show,’ if in fact you’re not coming back.”




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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.19


The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.

Because who DOESN'T want an hour of some unfunny guy who can barely make it through a joke without laughing at himself?

The question should be: Do they bring back Leno after Fallon bombs in a half a year or do they go with someone new?
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.

    Because who DOESN'T want an hour of some unfunny guy who can barely make it through a joke without laughing at himself?

    The question should be: Do they bring back Leno after Fallon bombs in a half a year or do they go with someone new?

Well, they say comedy is a matter of opinion. Unfortunately for you, your opinion is wrong, and it doesn't matter.

Did anybody else catch Jimmy and Jay singing a duet parody of Tonight?

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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.21
    Originally posted by Mike Zeidler
    This way it'll be easier to stack bookings (appearances) - going from 'Today' to 'Tonight' to 'Late Night' without leaving the building*. It's what they do with GMA, Live with Kelly and The View most days. It'll most likely be a boon for Late Night's booking department, and leave poor Craig Ferguson out on the left coast all alone, which may help him as well.


Bill Carter, author of "The Late Shift" and "The War For Late Night", seemed pretty sure that eventually the news would come out that Late Night is moving to L.A when he appeared on The B.S. Report. He also didn't really seem to buy the rumors of Seth Myers to Late Night, thinking that it seems too obvious, and Lorne Michaels always ends up making a decision out of left field, like when he picked Fallon to take over Late Night originally.



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