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The W - Sports that aren't Baseball, Football, Basketball, or Hockey - Landis comes clean
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.01
On a day when cycling is the banner, Landis breaks some news.

Well, I'm not completely surprised I guess. Maybe the French aren't just out to get the Americans after all.

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I am shocked that a competitor in a sport filled with cheaters who was better than the other cheaters was cheating.

Let me put it another way: Usain Bolt might be roided to the gills, but unless he's secretly a biochemist with his own patented brand of steroids that no one else uses, he's still really awesome. Same goes for Lance Armstrong.

(If the rumours of Tiger are legit, however, that's likely different, since doping would not be nearly as widespread.)(At least, I assume not.)

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What a coward blaming everyone else but yourself. I have no respect for Floyd. This will and looks like already is backfiring on Landis.

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This guy spent the majority of his own money, plus money donated by his fans for his legal defense to help defend something that he KNEW from the very beginning was a lie. What was he hoping to prove? Were the samples that showed that he used PED's going to magically become clean just because he's a "good guy" and because he's believed so hard in his own lie? A lie is a lie no matter how hard you don't want it to be or how hard you try to focus the attention on something else.

Now he's trying to throw Lance Armstrong under the bus with absolutely zero proof. The French have tested Armstrong's urine for 10 years, but I bet Floyd *really* has the proof. All we have to do is keep sending hard earned money to him so he can live his lie and then the truth shall sent Lance free!
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.68
Well, I believed him before - might as well believe him now.


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Well, I believed him before - might as well believe him now.

I hope you are joking.

Before, he was saying 'NO!, not me, I don't dope and I'm fighting this.' Now he's saying 'OK! Yes I doped, I cheated, and so are all of these other guys...' and that's lame. It's one thing to totally deny cheating and beg for people to help you fight said accusations. it's another thing to claim you did cheat and drag everyone around you down in the gutter with you.

Landis is a douche and deserves and deserves to crash and burn on his own.

Forget it Josh... it's Cerebustown.
Mr. Boffo

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Are undetectable performance enhancing drugs just something we're always going to have to deal with, or can it be fixed? Can we pay the detection scientists more money? I'm guessing the ones creating the steroids are better paid.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
I've secretly been hoping that Floyd Landis is telling the truth (this time) because I like controversy and it would be interesting to see the fallout if Lance Armstrong really HAD been cheating all this time, or if he had at least cheated at some point in his career. Nobody believed Jose Canseco at first, so who knows? Maybe Landis could be the cycling Canseco*.

I'm not so sure I want to see anything like that happen anymore. According to this article from VeloNation Press ( as well as other media outlets, the investigation is picking up steam and is heavily focused on 1996-2004, the years that the US Postal Service sponsored Lance Armstrong's team. Why is that important? There have been allegations that sponsors' monies were used to purchase drugs, and during those years if that money was used for such a purpose, we're talking about federal government dollars. Taxpayers' dollars. And if THAT is true, we're not talking about small time drug charges, slaps on wrists, disgrace from your sport, stripped titles, and the other things we're used to seeing in sports-related drug scandals. We're talking about federal fraud and conspiracy charges. I can't, in good conscience, cheer for something like that. For anyone who has followed any type of criminal case with those charges, the feds don't fuck around.

This could be huge. It would be absolutely catastrophic for Armstrong and the other people who Landis has fingered. But after all these years, I have a hard time believing it wouldn't have come to light already. It doesn't help that Landis has even less credibility than Canseco used to have. Hell, he probably has less credibility than that girl that accused Kobe of rape.

Then again, I'm not sure he has that much to gain from this, at least not any more than Canseco (e.g., book deals). I've heard he wants back into the sport, probably because he's broke, but he can't possibly think that could happen at this point. I don't follow cycling closely at all, but it's my understanding that it's basically a team sport, and I can't see anyone trusting him enough to allow him on their team, assuming he can even ride anymore.

- StingArmy

*Wouldn't "The Cycling Cansecos" be a pretty cool name for a band? Sorry, it's late.
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