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#1 Posted on
Um... que?

X-Pac and Booker are on opposite sides of the spread? Either Booker or Lesnar is going out in the first round? Either Holly or Test is making it to PPV? Okay, that last isn't a huge deal, considering there's only one real Smackdown! contender (Jericho), but the other two?

X-ac and Booker practically have fight at some point in the tourney to give any immediate payoff of to the nWo feud. Either they aren't or X-Pac is going over Jericho, and either Venis is going over Jericho or we're getting a heel/heel match in the second round. I can only hope that nWo cost Booker his first round match and Booker costs Pac his in revenge. Which would give us a Lesnar/RVD final round. Which would work.
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#2 Posted on
I was really pulling for King Booker, so seeing him in the first round against Push-to-the-Moon Lesnar gave me quite a turn. It's still theoretically possible to have Booker in the final against whoever wins the upper brackets (most likely RVD or Jericho), but I can't see them jobbing Lesnar out in the first round after all the pushing they've given him.

Assuming Lesnar goes over (presumably with X-Pac's help to keep the feud going), he'll also probably go over whoever wins Test/Holly, as I can't see him jobbing to them either.

On the other side of the brackets, X-Pac and Valbowski look like the designated first-round jobbers, giving us a second round of RVD and Jericho. If you want a heel/face matchup in the final, that means RVD goes over ... and the net explodes into a truly cosmic level of bitching as Jericho jobs to RVD in the second round of KOTR. That might almost be worth it for the comedy value of the posts alone.

Personally, I'd much rather see Jericho/Booker in the final than Lesnar/RVD ... it all hinges on how serious they are about pushing Lesnar, though.
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#3 Posted on
Here it is from SD:

X-Pac v. Rob Van Dam
Val Venis v. Chris Jericho

Test v. Hardcore Holly
Booker T vs. Brock Lesnar

I say this and I hope I'm right:

RVD d. X-Pac
Jericho d. Val
Test d. Holly
Booker d. Brock

SEMIS:
Jericho d. RVD (<-- this one had BETTER happen. Best Match of the PPV, if it does)
Booker d. Test

FINALS:
Booker d. Jericho to win the KOTR. And we'll be treated by a royal Spinaroonie. :)




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#4 Posted on
Who says Brock is winning?
Perhaps the nWo comes out and beats the shit out of him and pulls him out for a Count out or something because they want X-Pac vs Book so they can screw Book some more..

Perhaps Flair, Eddie, Benoit come out and cost Brock the match as payback for last week?

All your reasons for saying LEsnar is going to win are based on the hunch that he might get a push..

All my hunches tell me that they will go with Booker vs XPac to go on with the nWo angle and start a heyman/brock vs flair/eddie/benoit/whatever..

Kawshen, are they going with cross-brand semis? These matches sound sweet..and make sense (would be fun to see Booker and Test as former partners on opposite ends)




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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by dMp
    Who says Brock is winning?
    All my hunches tell me that they will go with Booker vs XPac to go on with the nWo angle and start a heyman/brock vs flair/eddie/benoit/whatever..



I would have said the same thing, except for the way the brackets are arranged. If the wanted Pac to go all the way, I think they would have flipped Test/Hardcore and Venis/Jericho. As things stand now, for Pac to make the finals, either Venis would have to beat Jericho (which is a really bad idea, although I suppose I wouldn't put it entirely past them), or they have to have a heel/heel match in the semi-finas (which is also a really bad idea, one which I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be dumb enough to do). No, I suspect this is Brock's tourney.
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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by Debaser

      Originally posted by dMp
      Who says Brock is winning?
      All my hunches tell me that they will go with Booker vs XPac to go on with the nWo angle and start a heyman/brock vs flair/eddie/benoit/whatever..



    I would have said the same thing, except for the way the brackets are arranged. If the wanted Pac to go all the way, I think they would have flipped Test/Hardcore and Venis/Jericho. As things stand now, for Pac to make the finals, either Venis would have to beat Jericho (which is a really bad idea, although I suppose I wouldn't put it entirely past them), or they have to have a heel/heel match in the semi-finas (which is also a really bad idea, one which I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be dumb enough to do). No, I suspect this is Brock's tourney.



I meant XPac vs Booker in the semi-finals ("conference finals")or are they indeed doing cross-brand stuff in the semis?



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#7 Posted on
Kawshen's brackets are correct. It's the winner of Pac/RVD facing the winner of Venis/Jericho, and the winner of Test/Hardcore facing the winner of Brock/Booker in the semifinals.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

My predictions:

RVD d. X-Pac
Chris Jericho d. Val Venis
Test d. Hardcore Holly
Brock Lesnar d. Booker T.

RVD d. Chris Jericho
Brock Lesnar d. Test

Brock Lesnar d. RVD

I'm not saying I want this to happen... nonononononono. Can't stand Lesnar. If I booked the tourney, Booker would defeat Brock, defeat Test and then defeat RVD to win the King of the Ring.

But then again... if I had been booking the tourney from the beginning, The Hurricane would have defeated Test and Tajiri would have defeated Hardcore Holly in the qualifying matches.



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#9 Posted on
Here's another thing nobody has mentioned, what about Eddy and Benoit? With Stone Cold benched who do they feud with? Do they go after Lesnar for what he did to Flair? If so he could lose first round. Or does Eddy continue his feud with RVD? After all RVD was the one who knocked Eddy out of the tournament AND RVD still has the IC Title to defend. So if Eddy wrestles RVD he could cost him the first round match. Or Maybe, both of those happen, so Booker and X-Pac both advance.

I mean if Benoit is cleared to wrestle, which i'm not sure about. Then why not have Lesnar vs. Benoit and RVD vs. Eddy (I would've said Benoit vs. Stone Cold before he walked out.) Then X-Pac, Booker, Val (yes i think he'll beat Jericho) and Test in the Semis.



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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Here's another thing nobody has mentioned, what about Eddy and Benoit? With Stone Cold benched who do they feud with? Do they go after Lesnar for what he did to Flair? If so he could lose first round. Or does Eddy continue his feud with RVD? After all RVD was the one who knocked Eddy out of the tournament AND RVD still has the IC Title to defend. So if Eddy wrestles RVD he could cost him the first round match. Or Maybe, both of those happen, so Booker and X-Pac both advance.

    I mean if Benoit is cleared to wrestle, which i'm not sure about. Then why not have Lesnar vs. Benoit and RVD vs. Eddy (I would've said Benoit vs. Stone Cold before he walked out.) Then X-Pac, Booker, Val (yes i think he'll beat Jericho) and Test in the Semis.



NO idea about the SD! side..but I believe what you said will happen (actually said the same thing earlier or was it in some other thread..shrug..)
Benoit/Eddie will take out Brock/Heyman thus setting up Flair vs Vince/Heyman so we can all drool more about a horsemen stable *cackle*

I do not believe booker T vs nWo is over yet so it makes sense for them to meet somewhere, even if it has to be the finals..




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52

Another thing I hadn't thought about until just now...

Just because a Booker/nWo clash might very well happen, it doesn't necessarily have to be in the tournament. If both Booker T and Syxx were eliminated, there'd be nothing stopping Booker from going after one of the nWo members at KotR. And it wouldn't even have to be Syxx.



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#12 Posted on
Ok, so my predictions/fantasy booking from my other thread didn't pan out, so let's use the WWE's brackets and see what I can come up with here.

X-Pac v. Rob Van Dam
Val Venis v. Chris Jericho

Test v. Hardcore Holly
Booker T vs. Brock Lesnar

I was really surprised at the Booker T/Brock Lesnar first round match. And then also surprised to see that X-Pac was on the opposite end of the brackets so the only way for them to meet was if they were both in the finals. I don't see that happening as they're both Raw wrestlers and I see a Raw/Smackdown final. Anyway, here's how I'd do it with these brackets:

RVD goes over X-Pac when Booker T interferes. Chris Jericho defeats Val Venis as clean as Jericho is allowed these days (maybe using the ropes or pulling the tights). Test beats Hardcore Holly in the "who cares" match of the tourney. Booker T goes over Brock when either the nWo come to the ring to beat down Booker for costing X-Pac his match or Eddie/Benoit come out for revenge for the Flair beatdown costing Brock the match, thus giving Booker T the DQ win. I'd see the Eddie/Benoit screwing Brock out of the match ending before the nWo beatdown of Booker because the nWo beatdown would put Brock on opposing ends with the nWo.

This sets up RVD/Jericho and Booker/Test for the PPV. Jericho/Booker in the finals with Booker winning the KOTR title to start his push as a top face for Raw. With no Austin, Raw has nobody on top anymore. This puts Booker on top and he's already in the feud with the nWo, which would continue from there.

This really is a Raw tourny, as all the Smackdown matches just seem to be there, but any Raw wrestler/match no matter the outcome can advance an existing storyline for the Raw brand. I'm really more interested in the Raw matches and how they end up way more than the Smackdown matches, as those matches will really give us a look as to where Raw is heading in the future. So if X-Pac wins the damn thing, we're in trouble. I think I'd like to also see a Brock/RVD final, but those are two Raw wrestlers and, again, I think they're gonna have a Raw/Smackdown final and they're probably gonna keep it face/heel, so using that formula, the only real final options are Booker/Jericho, Brock/Val, Holly/X-Pac, or Test/RVD. Looking at it that way, Booker/Jericho is really the only interesting way to go.

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#13 Posted on
My prediction:

A1: RVD d. XPac
A2: Y2J d. Val

B1: Test d. Holly
B2: Brock d. Booker

A: RVD d. Y2J
B: Brock d. Test

K: RVD d. Brock, or vice-versa.

on the other hand I suppose it could be Val Venis (who defeated XPac) v. Hardcore Holly (who defeated Booker).

#ifdef EDIT

Looking back over the predictions of others I see that there is much agreement over most of the tournament.

#endif

(edited by antizeus on 14.6.02 0832)


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#14 Posted on
I don't know why there's such a doubt about this. The Austin walkout has only made the KOTR picture clearer. Vince has no choice but to *finally* put Booker over at a PPV. He and RVD are the only two strong faces the Federation have going over at Raw now with Austin gone (unless you turn Eddy and Benoit face to play off the Vince-Flair tension, which they should do), and Booker needs some love in the worst way. If the Book doesn't win, then I can honestly say that the Federation has no grasp or idea of how bad their problems really are.

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God over Val
Test over Hardcore
Booker over Brock

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Booker over Test (Former teammates collide!)
Booker over God to become King



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#15 Posted on
My predictions:

Jericho over Val
RVD over X-Pac
Booker over Brock (Brock will be a part of "Heyman's Big Surprise" at KotR, thus probably won't wrestle)
Test over Holly (damn them for ruining my hopes of Holly-Jericho on the PPV!)

Jericho over RVD
Booker over Test

Booker over Jericho

Now, besides my Holly bias, why the hell are the brackets like this? I mean, yeah, I guess it gives us better PPV matches, but if you're going to do Raw vs. Smackdown, shouldn't it be the final? I guess they needed a way to get RVD on the card.

Anyway, as for Guerrero, I think he faces Flair, personally. I'm sure Flair is still going to be on TV, through some kind of stipulation. Guerrero will rip on him for losing Raw, Flair will challenge him back, we'll get the match. Sure, it's thrown together, but they don't really have a choice. Turning Eddie face is a bad...bad idea. As long as they don't do Flair-Lesnar, I'll be happy. If I have to see that overgrown, overrated, neck-rolling freak kill a legend I'll be one unhappy big man.




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#16 Posted on
I'd subscribe to ekedolphin's theory of both Booker and the Pac-Man going out in the first round so that they can meet in a non-tourney match at the PPV. Personally I'd go the other route-having Brock and van Dam eliminated in the first round so that they can meet over the IC belt at the PPV (possibly with Eddie thrown into the mix). THEN Booker could go onto the finals and win the damn thing, giving them a topline face that they badly need.






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