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http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/kizarnyreleased

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Dave had an interesting note in today's update.

One of the developmental guys got released and one of the reasons was that he got a tattoo without their permission.

Seems funny that an "independent contractor" has to get approval for a tattoo from his "employer."

(BTW, it was the name of a friend that had recently died. It's not like he was getting the Brock Lesnar or Scott Steiner chest tattoo.)





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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Dave had an interesting note in today's update.

    One of the developmental guys got released and one of the reasons was that he got a tattoo without their permission.

    Seems funny that an "independent contractor" has to get approval for a tattoo from his "employer."

    (BTW, it was the name of a friend that had recently died. It's not like he was getting the Brock Lesnar or Scott Steiner chest tattoo.)


Considering that tattoos could potentially impact a wrestler's potential gimmick, I don't mind WWE requiring permission for tattoos, and they're pretty much free to enforce their internal rules as they see fit. (The "independent contractor" vs. "employee" distinction, well, that's another topic. Suffice to say, I come down on the employee side, considering WWE's rules vis-a-vis other feds.)

Had the aforementioned developmental guy been able to get a hold of whoever he needed to in order to get permission (the story was that this guy was out of the country and wasn't coming back until after the artist would be available), I'd HOPE he wouldn't have had a problem getting permission. The whole situation shouldn't have been a big deal, but it put him in the position to get sacked after a much bigger infraction (blowing off physical therapy, which WWE was paying for, after they gave him a raise in light of his financial woes).

As for Kizarny, the gimmick had very little in the way of legs, not to mention that he should've been Evil Doink 2009, not a happy-go-lucky face. Stinking it up in his only televised match couldn't have helped, but this was a total non-starter. Hopefully he can get another, better shot.



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Was there a change about mentioning performers' real names in legit press releases?



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    Originally posted by TheOldMan
    Was there a change about mentioning performers' real names in legit press releases?

They probably couldn't spell his real last name.
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Wow...there were more promos leading up to his debut than actual matches.

I would have thought that being friends with Edge would have helped keep him around a bit longer...but I guess not.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.56


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Is this one of the biggest discrepancies between weeks of promos building up a debut to actual in-ring appearances of a character? I think it's somewhere between Sean O'Haire and Beaver Cleavage.
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    Originally posted by AlbySure
    Is this one of the biggest discrepancies between weeks of promos building up a debut to actual in-ring appearances of a character? I think it's somewhere between Sean O'Haire and Beaver Cleavage.
Well, Vade Hansen's ratio was 1:0, which is like INFINITY MILLION. There are probably a few other something to zeroes if we think back.

I think the last many:one ratio was....Tiger Ali Singh? Brakus? Did Key have any vignettes?



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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by AlbySure
      Is this one of the biggest discrepancies between weeks of promos building up a debut to actual in-ring appearances of a character? I think it's somewhere between Sean O'Haire and Beaver Cleavage.
    Well, Vade Hansen's ratio was 1:0, which is like INFINITY MILLION. There are probably a few other something to zeroes if we think back.

    I think the last many:one ratio was....Tiger Ali Singh? Brakus? Did Key have any vignettes?


I don't think so, I think he just showed up all white and fat. "He's the pusher!" Does Hirohito count?
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Man's Man Steve Regal is probably up there. Key (I thought it was Kilo?) turned up in the crowd like twice with no fanfare, then wrestled maybe one match on Shotgun.



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Going back to the tattoo thoughts, I wonder if the precedent of trademarked-image tattoos led to this. Helms has the Green Lantern logo and Punk has Pepsi and Cobra. Their promotional images usually are Photoshopped to remove them.



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Dangit, now we'll never know the punchline to the knock-knock joke he was trying to tell Vickie Guerrero ... Man, that one's gonna keep me up at night.





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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.53
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by AlbySure
      Is this one of the biggest discrepancies between weeks of promos building up a debut to actual in-ring appearances of a character? I think it's somewhere between Sean O'Haire and Beaver Cleavage.
    Well, Vade Hansen's ratio was 1:0, which is like INFINITY MILLION. There are probably a few other something to zeroes if we think back.

    I think the last many:one ratio was....Tiger Ali Singh? Brakus? Did Key have any vignettes?
Glacier returning in WCW? That's a many:0. Hogan in TNA?

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I thought Glacier DID return, as a bumbling self-deluded hero-type. Did I imagine that?
I wouldn't count Hogan's TNA vids-they weren't selling a gimmick. But that's just my take.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.71
Kizarny was obviously too RIZZEAL for the WWE to hizzandle! He will be welcome in my new company, the HNIZZLEWF!



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.26
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I thought Glacier DID return, as a bumbling self-deluded hero-type. Did I imagine that?
    I wouldn't count Hogan's TNA vids-they weren't selling a gimmick. But that's just my take.


Yeah he took in Kaz Hayashi as his protege and later passed on his "armor", and mask he wore when entering the ring making Kaz the inheritor of his legacy.


Reading that I really wish I was lying to you.
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I *think* I'm remembering this time: http://slashwrestling.com/thunder/001129.html It was towards the end of WCW - he got a couple of promos (One was followed by a wrestler watching in the back and saying "Hey, Glacier is coming back" or something like that. Then he never appeared.

There was some sort of contractural dispute over the name? It's all hazy.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    I *think* I'm remembering this time: http://slashwrestling.com/thunder/001129.html It was towards the end of WCW - he got a couple of promos (One was followed by a wrestler watching in the back and saying "Hey, Glacier is coming back" or something like that. Then he never appeared.

    There was some sort of contractural dispute over the name? It's all hazy.


It was Norman Smiley. And I think he did appear a couple times during that Old Black Magic's matches after this bit:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wpec_norman-smileys-reaction-to-glaciers_sport

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