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If I utilize search engines correctly, this was the...second? time "King of the Hill" aired in HD. Not knowing that was gonna happen, I was really weirded out. I don't know that it necessarily made the episode any BETTER, but it was still nice.

Next week, "The Simpsons" debuts in HD - my expectations are surely raised beyond reason for a show going on twenny.

I also hear "South Park" is going HD, but that doesn't help me when I only get an SD Comedy Central.

UNLESS...maybe the On Demand channel is HD! Strangely, I can watch FX shows On Demand in HD even though we don't get an HD FX on the dial. Or rather, Kim can - I didn't get into "Damages" but she tells me it's pretty great.

You know, this really has very little to do with "King of the Hill" after all. :)



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.94
    Originally posted by CRZ
    If I utilize search engines correctly, this was the...second? time "King of the Hill" aired in HD. Not knowing that was gonna happen, I was really weirded out. I don't know that it necessarily made the episode any BETTER, but it was still nice.


You must read that um...extensive analysis on the alleged first episode on AVS Forum, have you?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by CRZ


    I also hear "South Park" is going HD, but that doesn't help me when I only get an SD Comedy Central.



It looks like they've been going back and re-rendering old episodes in HD. Nice.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/944/944487p1.html

They've gone back as far back as 2006 so far, as they "Miss Teacher B... a Boy" from Oct 2006 was in HD this past week.

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Seeing KOTH in HD excited me to no end...even though I didn't notice until there was about five minutes left. I guess this happens when you're used to watching a lot of HD (and the stretched out SD eps of KOTH on Adult Swim. Yeah, that's it.)



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    Originally posted by CRZ
    If I utilize search engines correctly, this was the...second? time "King of the Hill" aired in HD. Not knowing that was gonna happen, I was really weirded out. I don't know that it necessarily made the episode any BETTER, but it was still nice.

    Next week, "The Simpsons" debuts in HD - my expectations are surely raised beyond reason for a show going on twenny.

    I also hear "South Park" is going HD, but that doesn't help me when I only get an SD Comedy Central.
Uhhh ... They're all animated. How much better can animation be in HD??? The black outlines around the characters are crisper? The construction paper textures on the SP characters are cleaner? Perhaps I just need to witness it to truly grok the glory.
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    Originally posted by emma
      Originally posted by CRZ
      If I utilize search engines correctly, this was the...second? time "King of the Hill" aired in HD. Not knowing that was gonna happen, I was really weirded out. I don't know that it necessarily made the episode any BETTER, but it was still nice.

      Next week, "The Simpsons" debuts in HD - my expectations are surely raised beyond reason for a show going on twenny.

      I also hear "South Park" is going HD, but that doesn't help me when I only get an SD Comedy Central.
    Uhhh ... They're all animated. How much better can animation be in HD??? The black outlines around the characters are crisper? The construction paper textures on the SP characters are cleaner? Perhaps I just need to witness it to truly grok the glory.


Maybe it was me, but I watched one of the earlier episodes in SD and HD last night. The HD feed looked like absolute shit, with the lines and such getting WAY too pixelated. This was in syndication, though, so who knows if the affiliate's going to get an HD copy.



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    Originally posted by emma
    Uhhh ... They're all animated. How much better can animation be in HD??? The black outlines around the characters are crisper? The construction paper textures on the SP characters are cleaner? Perhaps I just need to witness it to truly grok the glory.


They mean widescreen. At this point I've given up trying to persuade people that HD doesn't necessarily mean widescreen, or vice versa. It's the opposite of the old "why are there black bars on the top and bottom of my screen? I want to see the whole picture!"

What's weird is that in the 4:3 HD episodes (of King of the Hill, and The Simpsons), you can see the backgrounds continue past the pillar boxes, so it's probably just a matter of taking the two black rectangles off and re-mastering them.

I watched an HD episode of South Park on demand a couple of months ago, and that's all they did.



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    Originally posted by Zundian
      Originally posted by emma
      Uhhh ... They're all animated. How much better can animation be in HD??? The black outlines around the characters are crisper? The construction paper textures on the SP characters are cleaner? Perhaps I just need to witness it to truly grok the glory.


    They mean widescreen. At this point I've given up trying to persuade people that HD doesn't necessarily mean widescreen, or vice versa. It's the opposite of the old "why are there black bars on the top and bottom of my screen? I want to see the whole picture!"

    What's weird is that in the 4:3 HD episodes (of King of the Hill, and The Simpsons), you can see the backgrounds continue past the pillar boxes, so it's probably just a matter of taking the two black rectangles off and re-mastering them.

    I watched an HD episode of South Park on demand a couple of months ago, and that's all they did.


Maybe they are upconverting it, but my HD DirecTV receiver (and my TV as well) says South Park it's coming in at 1080i. I only got the HD feed about 3 weeks ago, but from what I have seen, the picture is alot better, and that's not just South Park. There Standup Show down looked so amazing, even though it was 4:3.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.94
    Originally posted by Zundian

    They mean widescreen. At this point I've given up trying to persuade people that HD doesn't necessarily mean widescreen, or vice versa.


Technically, it is. The only "exception" is a 4:3 movie or show mastered on film, as film has higher resolution than HD. However, those 4:3 shows are broadcast in 16:9 with black bars added such that it takes advantage of the full vertical resolution of HDTV.



    It's the opposite of the old "why are there black bars on the top and bottom of my screen? I want to see the whole picture!"

    What's weird is that in the 4:3 HD episodes (of King of the Hill, and The Simpsons), you can see the backgrounds continue past the pillar boxes, so it's probably just a matter of taking the two black rectangles off and re-mastering them.


If you look closely, the "hidden widescreen" on KotH and Simpsons is actually the top line of the picture stretched across the whole HDTV frame horizontally. In fact, you've been watching a standard-definition picture upconverted to HDTV resolution.

It also doesn't make sense that animators would waste time drawing extra background information that would never be used.



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    Originally posted by JALman

    If you look closely, the "hidden widescreen" on KotH and Simpsons is actually the top line of the picture stretched across the whole HDTV frame horizontally. In fact, you've been watching a standard-definition picture upconverted to HDTV resolution.


I will respectfully disagree.

    Originally posted by JALman

    It also doesn't make sense that animators would waste time drawing extra background information that would never be used.


Actually, for most backgrounds, there's quite a bit on either side of the frame so you can do traveling shots.



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    Originally posted by Zundian
      Originally posted by JALman

      If you look closely, the "hidden widescreen" on KotH and Simpsons is actually the top line of the picture stretched across the whole HDTV frame horizontally. In fact, you've been watching a standard-definition picture upconverted to HDTV resolution.


    I will respectfully disagree.
I gotta talk JALman's side here, although I would have described what I've seen differently. You can always match the stuff on the "top line" with the background in the SD area when you watch it really closely - there's nothing extra about it.



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Anyone seen the new Simpsons title sequence?

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    Originally posted by JALman
    Anyone seen the new Simpsons title sequence?

    (edited by JALman on 15.2.09 0154)


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I watched this on DirecTV SD's feed of my local FOX affiliate...they didn't letterbox it; it was full 4:3. Ergo, the left and right parts of the picture were cut off. You could TOTALLY tell. A bit disconcerting...but that's what I get for not having a nice HDTV yet. :-(

Maybe I should've watched through the converter box and gotten a letterboxed 16:9 pic.










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If have DirecTV and subscribe to the HD package, you can output an HD channel on the RCA outs to your non-HD display and you will get a squished up version of the 16:9 output to your 4:3.

So, if you don't mind really tall skinny people, that's one way to go.




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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.71
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    If have DirecTV and subscribe to the HD package, you can output an HD channel on the RCA outs to your non-HD display and you will get a squished up version of the 16:9 output to your 4:3.

    So, if you don't mind really tall skinny people, that's one way to go.


Before we got an HDTV we had Mediacom and an HD box (they gave it to everyone wanting a digital box since it was their DVR) and since the local HDs were permissioned for everyone we watched everything on them. Much sharper picture, better sound (of course) and it gave us the proper letterboxed picture on our 4:3 set rather than squish city.



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