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Since: 25.6.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.92
Have you all seen the previews for this? Does anyone think this was a bad idea from start? On the other hand, Child Services could use this as a tool for locating idiotic, negligent parents. And who authorized that "country-fied" butchering of Everybody Wants to Rule the World that they play during the previews?

I need answers.
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There has been significant backlash about this show already.

In watching the previews with my 11-year old son, I told him I would never subject him to that kind of stupidity. He said "thank you very much!"




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.66
The whole idea is that there are no adults around, yet who is running the cameras, boom microphones, and doing all the TV production? Are we to believe those are kids as well?


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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by dwaters
    The whole idea is that there are no adults around, yet who is running the cameras, boom microphones, and doing all the TV production? Are we to believe those are kids as well?


Wow... and people on here think I post stupid shit.

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I think it was on Smoking Gun, but I read the contract that parents had to sign to get the kids on the show and it was insane. It basicly said that if the kids get hurt in any way or killed, that they couldn't sue the makers of the show or CBS over it. Also the children were paid $5000 to 'participate' in the show, and it does not consider what they were doing 'work' as a way to get around child labor laws.

Pretty fucked up, but smart I suppose.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Cerebus
      Originally posted by dwaters
      The whole idea is that there are no adults around, yet who is running the cameras, boom microphones, and doing all the TV production? Are we to believe those are kids as well?


    Wow... and people on here think I post stupid shit.
Not only do they think that, but they're starting to wonder about your reading comprehension and ability to process sarcasm, as well.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Wow... and people on here think I post stupid shit.



      Who "THINKS" that? I'll F'n kill those F'd up B@st@rds. F'd up Sh*t man, F'd up Sh*t.....My F'n shoe is F'n untied I F'n wish I had F'n velcro!


      Am I such a reality T.V. whore that I am actually a bit interested in watching this latest version of a "Social Experiment"? It probably won't be that great but I'm tuning in with hopes of greatness.



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    Originally posted by The Guinness.
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      Wow... and people on here think I post stupid shit.quote]

      Who "THINKS" that? I'll F'n kill those F'd up B@st@rds. F'd up Sh*t man, F'd up Sh*t.....My F'n shoe is F'n untied I F'n wish I had F'n velcro!



Second best post, ever.



Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
I didn't think it was possible, but someone went out and made a show with a WORSE concept than "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?" And it isn't even from FOX! Ye gods!




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    I think it was on Smoking Gun, but I read the contract that parents had to sign to get the kids on the show and it was insane. It basicly said that if the kids get hurt in any way or killed, that they couldn't sue the makers of the show or CBS over it.

Um, that's what we call "a standard waiver of liability." As in, it's a standard waiver of liability.

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Since: 9.1.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      I think it was on Smoking Gun, but I read the contract that parents had to sign to get the kids on the show and it was insane. It basicly said that if the kids get hurt in any way or killed, that they couldn't sue the makers of the show or CBS over it.

    Um, that's what we call "a standard waiver of liability." As in, it's a standard waiver of liability.

    - StingArmy


Just a question, but does anyone know how enforceable those things are on these types of shows (especially ones where the show *plans* on risky things happening)?

I know it's off-topic, but during courses for restaurant safety, it was made very clear to us (I must point out here that there is an ASTONISHING amount of people that are willing to risk food poisoning if it means they pay slightly less for old meat) that even if a customer were to sign a waiver of liability towards the possibility of getting sick off spoiled food, it doesn't matter since there are federal (or provincial, can't remember) laws that take precedence.


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83
    Originally posted by Cerebus


    I think it was on Smoking Gun, but I read the contract that parents had to sign to get the kids on the show and it was insane. It basicly said that if the kids get hurt in any way or killed, that they couldn't sue the makers of the show or CBS over it. Also the children were paid $5000 to 'participate' in the show, and it does not consider what they were doing 'work' as a way to get around child labor laws.

    Pretty fucked up, but smart I suppose.


Yeah, the liability waiver is up on The Smoking Gun (thesmokinggun.com). It may be a standard liability waiver, but it still raises some interesting questions, considering that children are involved:

CBS won't be held liable if the children get injured or killed, or contract a STD of any type. Further, the waiver serves as a blanket consent for CBS to make medical decisions, should a child become injured or sick during filming, up to and including surgery. This waiver covers medical treatment by "health care professionals, paramedics, or any other persons".

There is no privacy from the cameras, unless a performer is in the bathroom, and "bathing, urinating, or defecating", or if the performer is in a provided changing room and actually changing their clothes.

Should any performer, or their parents violate the confidentiality agreement contained within the waiver, they become liable to CBS for the sum of FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

Supposedly, New Mexico child protective services did visit the set during filming, though I'm not sure if anyone was actually hurt during production, or anything like that.

It seems like this is perilously close to child exploitation, at least to me.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.02
Putting the over/under at three episodes.
dwaters
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Since: 16.10.02
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.66
    Originally posted by Cerebus
      Originally posted by dwaters
      The whole idea is that there are no adults around, yet who is running the cameras, boom microphones, and doing all the TV production? Are we to believe those are kids as well?


    Wow... and people on here think I post stupid shit.


It was a real question....whatever.
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