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Since: 9.12.01
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Anyone catch his show yet?

Wasn't this guy just a little left of the Nazis? Am I thinking of the wrong guy? I thought Keyes was the SUPER right conservative from the debates a few years back...?



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Yeah. He was super right wing. Why what is he doing now? I can't be bothered to watch anything vaguely resembling a politics show.



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He is very conservative, but I don't know if that makes him a Nazi (after all, Nazis were not overly religious people as Keyes and many conservatives are), just as being very liberal does not make you a Stalin. But I digress...yes I've seen small bits of his show and it seems decent. It does seem somewhat scripted though and slow to get to the point. If it was more like Chris Matthews' Hardball it would be better.

From the little I know about him, Keyes seems to have the problem many conservatives have. He is very smart and has solid intellectual ideas (and can beat the pants off of someone in a debate), but with the way he comes off he often rubs people wrong. If he had a softer, more laid back, funny personality, or was an _engaging_, entertaining host like Matthews, he would be a lot better.

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I said he was left of the Nazis.

And when I read the rest of your post, I thought it said, "If he had a sister..."

If Keyes still wants to be President (down the line... I don't think he had anywhere near the support to proclaim him the next in line for the Republican party) then he needs to not come off as goofy. I know thats not what you were recommending, but when you walk the entertaining line you are better off to err to the side of seriousness if you want to be taken seriously later.

He's like the Lance Storm of Conservatism.



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Hey Alan Keyes is a good guy! I almost worked for his campaign in 2000, that's how close I was to BELIEVING in him.

I'm pretty sure in his former life he was a radio talk show host, so he's got his patter down pat. It doesn't translate as well to TV, but I haven't been too enthralled with his choice of guests thus far. (Mona Charen? This is me making the retch sign BLEHHH)

His "we need a moral leader, not a politician" messages in 1996 were *easily* the best thing I'd seen on television during that campaign. Hey, looking at how Bush has evolved since September, Keyes looks pretty damn prescient now!

I think MSNBC giving him a show is an inspired decision. I also don't think it'll last too long, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.



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I've never really cared for him. I didn't like the way he used to whine about not getting coverage due to the racist media. He wasn't getting coverage because everybody knew he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning anything. He's a smart guy, and I agree with him some of the time, but I think he's too idealistic and nerdy.



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I think MSNBC giving him a show is an inspired decision.

I think we can thank the author of 'Bias' for that one. I'm a big Keys guy too. He was definatly ahead of the rest in 96.



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Alan Keyes got his own talk show? And it's not even on FOX (supposed) News? If Ralph Nader got his own talk show on MSNBC we wouldn't here the end of people ranting about the 'biased' liberal media.

His "we need a moral leader, not a politician" messages in 1996 were *easily* the best thing I'd seen on television during that campaign. Hey, looking at how Bush has evolved since September, Keyes looks pretty damn prescient now!

George Bush is a moral leader?

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George Bush is a moral leader?



Um...YEAH.






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I'm a Bush supporter, but I agree that he is willing to compromise on things. But I think a hardcore moral idealogue wouldn't be elected, and even if they were, they probably wouldn't be very successful as President. An effective President has to be a consensus builder. I think that's a big reason why Keyes and Bauer didn't exactly light up the voters during the primaries. They appeal to their core supporters, but they turn off everyone else.



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OK, let see here. Zim doesn't like Alan Keyes and CRZ does (along with George House from California). Do I sense a little political tension in the Zim household? GuruZim---where did you go wrong??

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