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John Kerry is supposed to announce his choice for a running mate today. ANy inside word on who it may be?

http://www.cnn.com/ 2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/05/ kerry.vp/index.html

Kerry intends to begin calling the major candidates in contention around 7 a.m. Tuesday to give them the news of his choice...
Kerry's aides reported placards had been printed with three versions of the Democratic ticket: Kerry-Edwards, Kerry-Gephardt and Kerry-Vilsack, though they acknowledged that Kerry could still surprise even them with a different selection...
Kerry will appear at a big morning rally in Market Square in downtown Pittsburgh and announce choice at 9 a.m. Tuesday, before flying to Indianapolis.
The running mate's political director would be Linda Moore, who was President Bill Clinton's deputy political director and then Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh's deputy chief of staff...
(edited by StaggerLee on 6.7.04 0024)

(edited by StaggerLee on 6.7.04 0029)

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Way to mislead with a thread title.



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Sorry, I forgot to include the link in the story. Sorry to mislead.



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I'm on my way to said rally at this very moment. Wish me luck if I have to be one of the people who tries to feign enthusiasm for Dick Gephardt.



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Bloomberg reports its Edwards. Some still claim it could be a surprise choice, but God only knows who.

EDIT: CNN has it now too...

(edited by Grimis on 6.7.04 0748)


If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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NBC was reporting it is John Edwards. So much for my dream "I was in Nam" ticket of Kerry/Ventura!



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.32
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    NBC was reporting it is John Edwards. So much for my dream "I was in Nam" ticket of Kerry/Ventura!


Logical choice. Gephardt was just too blah and caried too much baggage. Edwards has the advantage of not having even served a full Senate term. Not having much of a record is better today than being accused of not having experience. He is charismatic, youthful and counteracts the Kerry New England Lib vibe. Personally, I would have gone for a Midwestern Gov. but it would appear he may be actually trying to fight in the south.



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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    Personally, I would have gone for a Midwestern Gov. but it would appear he may be actually trying to fight in the south.
If I were him(and I am obiously nowhere close) I would've picked Sebelius for that reason, and because she is a woman, and because she has strong roots in Ohio. Picking a trial lawyer is not a partiuclarly inspired choice.



If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      Personally, I would have gone for a Midwestern Gov. but it would appear he may be actually trying to fight in the south.
    If I were him(and I am obiously nowhere close) I would've picked Sebelius for that reason, and because she is a woman, and because she has strong roots in Ohio. Picking a trial lawyer is not a partiuclarly inspired choice.


I think it's inspired in the way that Kerry's ticket now has a little fire on it. I find John Kerry to be an incredibly boring man. Edwards is a little over the top, but at least he brings some personality to the table which is something that this whole election lacks. It's a step up from Gore/Lieberman.




(edited by Tony Stewart on 6.7.04 1013)
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Enthusiasm was not feigned. If word of the selection had leaked out to the media, it wasn't known in downtown Pittsburgh this morning. Murmurings of Gephardt probably made the announcement of a candidate who's, you know, likeable and energetic seem even more incredible.

To put it in local terms, the pop was Hoganesque.



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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      Personally, I would have gone for a Midwestern Gov. but it would appear he may be actually trying to fight in the south.
    If I were him(and I am obiously nowhere close) I would've picked Sebelius for that reason, and because she is a woman, and because she has strong roots in Ohio. Picking a trial lawyer is not a partiuclarly inspired choice.


Living in her state, the trouble she has is being rather blah. She won because the Republican opposing was too for right even for Kansas. And honestly a Dem in Kansas just isn't liberal enough for Kerry.



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    Originally posted by DrDirt
      Originally posted by Grimis
        Originally posted by DrDirt
        Personally, I would have gone for a Midwestern Gov. but it would appear he may be actually trying to fight in the south.
      If I were him(and I am obiously nowhere close) I would've picked Sebelius for that reason, and because she is a woman, and because she has strong roots in Ohio. Picking a trial lawyer is not a partiuclarly inspired choice.


    Living in her state, the trouble she has is being rather blah. She won because the Republican opposing was too for right even for Kansas. And honestly a Dem in Kansas just isn't liberal enough for Kerry.


Also, you have to think that states such as Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Texas, et al are lost causes in terms of winning, whereas Kerry's best shot at winning is getting the Southern New Democrats to carry states like the Carolinas, Georgia and Virginia (which is where Edwards comes into play) and the industrial belt states (i.e. Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio).

And as usual, you can concede the majority of the Big 12 Conference to Bush and the majority of the Pac 10 to Kerry. This election will be won or lost in the SEC, the ACC and the Big Ten.







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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.32
Blanket is right, the Big 12 is mostly a lost cause. His best hope is to tap into the new South. and shore up his base. If Al had bothered with his home state, he could have won. Edwards is the right choice. Not who I would wnat but he helps the ticket enormously.

Add, I really think the election is Bush's to lose much more than Kerry's to win.

(edited by DrDirt on 6.7.04 1205)


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I think that Edwards is an O.K. choice. I just don't think that Kerry/Edwards is a winning combo.
JFK aside Senators don't win the Presidential election. They run a lot sure but look at their track record. Plus Senators have that professional politician vibe without actually running anything measurable like a state.
But I am interested in hearing the DNP spin how 2 very rich white guys are the logical choice for minority groups.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

Arent all presidential candidates very rich white guys?



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Well, yeah unless they are a rich white woman who's husband has mafia ties. I am not saying that either party shows diversity just that the DNP pretends to be for minorities but in reality is just as white, rich, and lawyerish as the GOP.



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    Originally posted by Dahak
    I am not saying that either party shows diversity just that the DNP pretends to be for minorities but in reality is just as white, rich, and lawyerish as the GOP.
For the record, the Democrats are more lawyerish than we are...



If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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I thought he would have gone Gephardt because he would have provided a better chance of flipping Missouri (which is a pick 'em state) Democrat rather than Edwards, who will have difficulty swinging his home state. Two Senators on the ticket provide the Republicans a ton of ammunition on voting differences between the Democratic ticket. Also, if a Republican is elected Governor of North Carolina and Kerry wins, that means both Senate seats will have Republican Governors selecting the replacement for Democrats. Gephardt on the ticket at least protects 1 Senate seat in case of victory.



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Im happy kerry chose Edwards, I dont see how we can lose now. I remember last summer when Edwards announced his candidacy for President on the Daily Show, I though to myself this guy has NO shot. Now hes not going to be President, but he certainly surprised me.


    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by Dahak
      I am not saying that either party shows diversity just that the DNP pretends to be for minorities but in reality is just as white, rich, and lawyerish as the GOP.
    For the record, the Democrats are more lawyerish than we are...



What the hell does lawyerish mean anyway? Jesus, are you guys are just making up words to insult Democrats. Fine, Ill do it too. If we Dems are Lawyerish then you GOPers are definitley more corporatish.

Hows that?











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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    What the hell does lawyerish mean anyway? Jesus, are you guys are just making up words to insult Democrats. Fine, Ill do it too. If we Dems are Lawyerish then you GOPers are definitley more corporatish.


How about crookish (Nixon)? Or Shitty actorish (Reagan)? Or Dumb as a post with a silver spoon shoved up his ass-ish (Take a guess)?

Of course, this coming from a guy who's Prime Minister is a lying sack of shit. I voted for him, because he's . . . well, he's not Stephen Harper-ish.



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