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It's False

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
Brad Meltzer's second outing isn't as much fun as the first. It's mostly the big three still voting in members while other confirmed members are out and about.

Notable moments include Black Lightning getting in over his head, as he runs into the Parasite. The final candidate up for vote is...Batman? And the issue ending with a whole bunch of Red Tornado robots.

Really slow second issue. Hopefully, part three picks things up.

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John Orquiola

Since: 28.2.02
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The Trinity is taking almost as long to vote who's in their new League as it took All Star Batman and Robin to make it to the Batcave.

If I have one complaint (well, two complaints - I agree with It's False #2 wasn't nearly as much fun as #1) it's that Meltzer is really beating us over the head with the heroes' real names. ESPECIALLY in the Trinity's voting scenes.

"What about him, Bruce?"
"No, Clark."
"What do you think, Diana?"
"I'm with you, Clark."
"You would be, Diana."
"That's not fair, Bruce."
"What about her, Diana?"
"Let's vote, Clark."
"I vote no. Diana?"
"I vote yes. Clark?"
"I'm with Bruce."


Also, Batman calling Red Tornado "Reddy" annoyed the piss out of me. Those are my complaints.

But I like the roster Meltzer picked. I was never a big fan of the omnipotent Magnificent Seven JLA and I like the mix of headliners and undercard guys being assembled.

Note: I just posted an edited version of the above on Brad Meltzer's MySpace.

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(edited by John Orquiola on 28.9.06 0730)

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.60
I hate that. It's awful fan fiction. What really bugs me about This Writer's plotting is how he thinks all the superheroes are buddy-buddy. "Hey there, BRUCE... how're ALFRED and TIM? Did you see DICK and ROY at the movie theatre"? "Why hello there CARTER. Why yes, I did.. and thanks for the lovely photo postcard of you and KENDRA at the prom with OLLIE and DINAH. Hope to see you, HAL and RONNIE at the softball game this weekend! Tee-hee!"

To me, stuff like that's even tougher to swallow than orange skinned aliens or little blue men in bathrobes from Oa. I've always felt that superheroes do what they do cuz' they have some motivation or feel a calling. They don't hang out on Sundays in their uniforms at someone's house and watch TV. It's not some stupid fraternity or universal team. They get into their costumes when they have to. To save a life, to right a wrong, etc.... not to hang out with their "pals" and talk shop.

Just cuz' Superman and Batman are chummy, doesn't mean Atom, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Booster Gold and every Teen Titan down to Bumblebee is in the "club" (least of all, Atom's EX-WIFE ..who knew about Robin's secret ID).

It's the transitive property blown out of proportion. Example: Superman and Batman are buds. Batman and Deadman are buds. Therefore, Superman and Deadman MUST be buds! Doesn't work that way.

Villains have been getting the same treatment lately. They're shouldn't all be on the same "team". Some are misguided loons. So the idea that they all suit up in the same locker room and send text messages to each other is ridiculous.

..and I really hate the term "the Trinity". As annoying as DC's "The Mantle of _______" phrase that they used in the 90's (even Connor Hawke was billed as "Taking over the Mantle of Green Arrow").

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I actually have the opposite reaction to this sort of thing. I rather enjoy the familiarity and comradery stuff. Yes, they've all been motivated in different ways and started from different places. But a lot of them have served on teams in one capacity or another together for ten years or so, in current continuity, not to mention all the cross-pollination and team-ups that have happened over the years. Do they all have to be bestest buddies and get together to watch football on weekends? No. But it's not that shocking to me that they have a great deal of comfort around one another, or that a sort of community might develop. Anyway, I always enjoyed imagining heroes in their off-hours as a kid, and some of these types of stories almost remind me of that. Just like, when I was a kid, I assumed most movie stars hung out together all the time. It's just another flavor of story. That kind of interaction has been standard fare in the X-men for a long time, because it was always a school and a family. That it's a more traditionally Marvel form of superhero interaction probably doesn't make it easier to swallow for those who usually prefer DC (I like both about equally myself).

Anyway, I'm kind of rambling. I'm not even reading this particular book at the moment, although I did enjoy Meltzer's Identity Crisis for pretty much the reasons spelled out above. Except for the mindwipe stuff. That was kind of annoying, but another subject entirely.

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I'm wondering if anyone else has picked this up? I just finished reading it, and I have a couple thoughts. First, I enjoyed it very much, and I think it did a nice job of filling in some gaps between Part I and Part II, and even between Parts II and III....
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