i guess i'd just like to comment on my dissatisfaction of hearing about chad collyer's departure from the wwe. the only things that i heard about him were good things, and soon i will see him in action via the ecwa super 8 2002 tournament.
apparently, he was a dean malenko trainee, with a lot of the same skills, plus more youth, and a tad bit more charisma. don't quote me on that last bit, though, as it was previously mentioned in the thread that he had less than deano (if possible). once i receive the tape i can probably give a bit further incite to him... that is, assuming that everybody has not forgotten by then, which is almost guaranteed to happen!
Collyer was really pretty good, but very much a cruiserweight. The WWE seems more interested in high-flying cruisers than mat-based ones, and Collyer was very much in the Malenko style, even using a Cloverleaf for his finishing maneuver. He doesn't have a ton of charisma, but he's not bad at all. Plus, I went to high school with him, so I have a natural hometown affection for 'im. It kinda sucks that I won't see 'im in the Fed anytime soon.
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That sucks about Waterman. When I saw him, he actually looked nothing like Scott Steiner (contrary to what EVERYONE says in the Torch feedback section) and kicked total ass. He teamed with Lesnar that night and I honestly thought he was the better of the two. In fact, they wrestled Rico and Orton before they were in the big-time. I thought Waterman was better than them all, had more charisma and had a more kick-ass look. Makes you wonder, huh? I'll never be able to figure out the WWE's talent decisons...I mean, they cut Mr. freakin' Perfect, for crying out loud. [/nostalgia kick]
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Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoJerry Lynn will never get over in the WWE. I don't know why Ross even brought Lynn up.
Agreed, BigDaddyLoco, it did seem odd for JR to bring up Jerry Lynn in his weekly report. Just speculation on my part, of course, but perhaps it was as a favor to Lynn. Check out the following from Lynn, which is currently on the NWA-TNA web site:
Jerry Lynn on the comments made recently by Jim Ross:
“We’ve never had cross words, and we have a very professional relationship. I wouldn’t want any false rumors to come out about my departure from WWE, so I’m glad he cleared it up."
Now, I personally wasn't aware that there was anything about Lynn's departure from WWE that needed to be "cleared up" [though (if I recall correctly) Lynn did appear on WWA's "The Revoloution" before it was officially announced that he was no longer working for WWE]. Anyway, it looks as if both men are treating this matter in a professional, respectful, and business-like manner...which, of course, can make for pretty dull reading. ;-) Anyway, if you're interested, you can Click Here to read Jerry Lynn's comments in their totality.
I'm of the school of thought that they can make anyone a star that they want to, and make the fans believe it by manipulating certain factors (clean wins, making segments important, associating them with bigger names, well produced hype packages, etc.)