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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
What, don't any of you care?

Okay -- mostly I wanted an excuse to use the "Heat" thread icon. Although I'm not even sure if he appeared much on Heat, even -- anyone here watch it? I can't remember him showing up on TV at all.

Interesting that he didn't make it over to the new ECW. I guess without Simon Diamond, he's not a particularly valuble commodity.

Speaking of which, I do idly wonder if he might now make his way back to TNA to re-team with Diamond. But where would that leave Diamonds in the Rough? A stable whose manager is also part of a regular tag team (that predates said stable, especially) seems...weird.

Anyway. Future endeavors etc., etc.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.35
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    What, don't any of you care?

    Okay -- mostly I wanted an excuse to use the "Heat" thread icon. Although I'm not even sure if he appeared much on Heat, even -- anyone here watch it? I can't remember him showing up on TV at all.

    Interesting that he didn't make it over to the new ECW. I guess without Simon Diamond, he's not a particularly valuable commodity.


This was on LoP the other day:

Parisi signed a developmental deal with WWE in 2005. He made his WWE debut on the July 31st, 2005 edition of HEAT. Parisi only won one match during his WWE stint, and that was in his debut match against a local wrestler on that particular episode of HEAT. Parisi was pretty much relegated to jobber status by the following week as he lost every single televised match he took part in.

Parisi was taken off television in November due to a knee injury. He also broke his nose in a match with Val Venis on an episode of HEAT. His injuries eventually healed as he made a few appearances in Deep South Wrestling in 2006, but he was never brought back up to the main roster. Parisi had the dubious distinction of being the only WWE wrestler to never appear on his brand's main show. Parisi never once appeared on an episode of RAW.


    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    Speaking of which, I do idly wonder if he might now make his way back to TNA to re-team with Diamond. But where would that leave Diamonds in the Rough? A stable whose manager is also part of a regular tag team (that predates said stable, especially) seems...weird.

    Anyway. Future endeavors etc., etc.

    --K


I have to find it again but I read somewhere that TNA has told Simon Diamond, Eric Young, and Elix Skipper that their stable will not be used for a long while. So I guess thats TNA's way of saying your fired, since I doubt TNA contracts look like WWE's. So I guess Diamond might not be in TNA for Swinger to return with.





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#3 Posted on
    Originally posted by XPacArmy
    Parisi had the dubious distinction of being the only WWE wrestler to never appear on his brand's main show. Parisi never once appeared on an episode of RAW.


I don't think Frankie Kazarian ever showed up on Smackdown, did he? As far as I know, he only wrestled four matches on Velocity before he quit.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91

I thought that he could have been used as mid-card talent in the new ECW.

I always liked the team of Simon & Swinger, especially with their feud against AMW in TNA. Too bad we're probably not going to get to see them team in one of the 2 national companies.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
    Originally posted by Mattitude
    I don't think Frankie Kazarian ever showed up on Smackdown, did he? As far as I know, he only wrestled four matches on Velocity before he quit.


Additionally, I'm almost positive that the Basham that got drafted to RAW has not once appeared on that show. I'm sure there's others as well. Pretty typical of "newz" trivia.

I remember seeing him on Heat and being shocked as to how watered-down and neutered his style seemed to be in WWE. I'm sure putting on what looked like twenty pounds of muscle mass didn't help, either.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.49
Actually, TNA tols them that they won't be used for the rest of the summer. They are expected to be back by fall.
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The mis-management, or more accurately the non-management, of talent such as Kazarian and Swinger really makes me wonder if WWE's simply interested in signing talent just to keep them away from TNA, or if they ever actually bring someone in with a plan. (Excluding meatheads like Masters, in which the "plan" is to put people away with a shitty full nelson for a year straight.)



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
I really don't understand people having any love for Swinger, let alone being disappointed in how he was used. He was as bland and by-the-numbers as you could get. I've no idea why he was even hired.

Simon Diamond isn't/wasn't much better either, so I am mystified at all the mentions (not on this board specifically, but in general) of how great it would be to see them back together.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    The mis-management, or more accurately the non-management, of talent such as Kazarian and Swinger really makes me wonder if WWE's simply interested in signing talent just to keep them away from TNA, or if they ever actually bring someone in with a plan. (Excluding meatheads like Masters, in which the "plan" is to put people away with a shitty full nelson for a year straight.)


Didn't Kazarian ask for his release because they wanted him to cut his hair? I thought that he was getting a decent Velocity push back when it was still airing on SpikeTV.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by CTX
    I really don't understand people having any love for Swinger, let alone being disappointed in how he was used. He was as bland and by-the-numbers as you could get. I've no idea why he was even hired.

    Simon Diamond isn't/wasn't much better either, so I am mystified at all the mentions (not on this board specifically, but in general) of how great it would be to see them back together.
Well, I tend to agree with you about both guys, individually, so using them as a tag team that has some name recognition seems like the best idea for the two of them as long as they're going to stick around at all.

(I'm a big fan of tag teams, so there are plenty of guys that I'm not interested as singles wrestlers that I'll accept in a tag situation, especially if that team is more than a thrown-together flash-in-the-pan.)

Yeah, I can only think that WWE hired Swinger to keep that team apart, then dropped him when it was they found that Diamond wasn't leaving TNA. (Or maybe Swinger has friends backstage. Who knows.)

    Originally posted by Mayhem
    Didn't Kazarian ask for his release because they wanted him to cut his hair? I thought that he was getting a decent Velocity push back when it was still airing on SpikeTV.
True -- he was actually winning matches and stuff. Still, I have to think he must have been dissatisfied on deeper levels, and the haircut thing was just one more straw on the fire. (Or something.)

I have to think, too, that if his push wasn't meeting his expectations, then his expectations must have been pretty unrealistic.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    The mis-management, or more accurately the non-management, of talent such as Kazarian and Swinger really makes me wonder if WWE's simply interested in signing talent just to keep them away from TNA, or if they ever actually bring someone in with a plan. (Excluding meatheads like Masters, in which the "plan" is to put people away with a shitty full nelson for a year straight.)


The problem with that theory is that WWE doesn't seem to have plans for non-TNA wrestlers they bring in either - the Heartbreakers/Heart Throbs being a prime example. They weren't the greatest workers in the world, but they had a golden gimmick in OVW that WWE did absolutely nothing with. See also Brent Albright/Gunner Scott (with whom they haven't seemed to establish anything beyond the fact that he's a wrestler and his name is Gunner Scott). It seems that the best they've done recently with workers they've brought up is Ken Kennedy (who if I'm not mistaken came up with that gimmick himself and partially got over on his own personality and natural charisma) and the Spirit Squad (which is a gimmick I feel the wrestlers involved have gotten over despite its goofiness and short shelf-life).

If WWE really wanted to sign talent away just to hurt TNA? Well, no disrespect to either of them, but I don't think the two guys they'd target specifically would be Johnny Swinger and Frankie Kazarian.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure TNA had split Diamond & Swinger long before WWE signed Swinger so the theory he was hired to hurt TNA seems kinda redundant.

I remember they split them up and Diamond became "Irish" Pat Kenney. They had a few awful matches against each other and Swinger joined Glen Gilbertti's New York faction before they all seemed to be jobbed out amidst one of the monthly management changes at the time.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by CTX
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure TNA had split Diamond & Swinger long before WWE signed Swinger so the theory he was hired to hurt TNA seems kinda redundant.

    I remember they split them up and Diamond became "Irish" Pat Kenney. They had a few awful matches against each other and Swinger joined Glen Gilbertti's New York faction before they all seemed to be jobbed out amidst one of the monthly management changes at the time.
Yeah, this is all accurate and I had supressed it. Nevertheless, Swinger and Diamond could have reunited at any time (really, what else were they going to do? "Irish" Pat was clearly an awful, awful failure).

If I was Vince and had a chance to pick up a guy for cheap who was either half of an established team (Diamond) or half of an up-and-coming team that's over with the crowd (Kazarian, jobbing to NASCAR drivers notwithstanding), thereby forcing TNA to restructure whatever they had going on at the time, I would sure do it. Even if I don't strike gold with that particular guy, the side benefits are amusing.

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