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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
Sounds like pretty bad news. Potentially even career-threatening.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Perhaps, for the first post in a thread, you probably could add more detail.

Wrestling Observer was discussing this last night. It doesn't sound like anyone's quite sure when Cena got hurt. It's possible the BatistaBomb they credited it to from the PPV might really be it, but it might be other things. Even going back to Austin's neck injury, these injuries just the final trauma after a lot of damage.

Cena wrestled with the injury, not thinking it was that interesting, all last week. They changed around matches on house shows to help him out and it sounds like no one knew how serious this was until Monday.

Cena wasn't at RAW because he was still checking things out with the doctors to decide what to do it. He's definitely going to be out, and out for a long time - everyone's saying it'll be neck fusion, and that's a year plus. Cena beat the pec return time by an amazing amount, but you don't want to rush a neck.

Not that they could've known at the time (I think), but doing Batista/Cena at SummerSlam and having Batista win works better now. It's going to be a long time before they get that rematch.



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You know, when Cena went down to the pec injury last fall, I took the news with glee. (Excuse me if I'm cruel.) I was just happy have Cena off TV after two years of dominating not just RAW but WWE and generally being a major factor in making me miserable watching WWE all that time. I was annoyed when he beat the pec injury and won the Royal Rumble despite fun of the surprise of his comeback being kept a total secret.

A year since his pec injury sidelined him and I feel differently about Cena's herniated disc in his neck sidelining him indefinitely. Since his comeback, Cena may have gotten comparable air time on RAW from his 2005-2007 run, but he's been booked to be much more human. He lost or failed to win what counted in nearly every post-Rumble PPV match he was involved in this year. He's no longer unbeatable by any means, which to me made him tolerable. More than tolerable. I'd still rather boo him than cheer him but I respect the guy now, which is a far cry from not being able to stand the sight of him a year ago.

So I think losing Cena is a shame now. I was just starting to like the guy. I was sort of looking forward to Cena vs. Punk, even though I'm not a fan of either. I felt like they were saving Cena to be the guy to get Punk over that hill if he survives the Scramble. Or they'd have Punk drop the belt to Cena in Boston at Survivor Series. Either way, it's irrelevant now. And it is good, in hindsight, Cena vs. Batista happened at Summerslam and not held off until WrestleMania. The decisive win makes Batista the big dog on RAW, big gold belt or no.


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Hey, good news. WWE.com says that Cena didn't have to get the fusion.

    Originally posted by Dr. Joseph Maroon
    "We performed a microsurgical removal of a large disk fragment compression on the spinal cord which was weakening the nerve leading to the right arm. ... I think John’s prognosis is excellent. He should be able to return to wrestling in two to four months."


So would you say that this surgery was minimally invasive? That didn't work out so well for Kurt Angle. But I don't think there's any way that the herniated disc could have been as severe as the state of Kurt Angle's neck in 2003. That thing breaks more than a ... a bus driver.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.83
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Hey, good news. WWE.com says that Cena didn't have to get the fusion.
You'd think he would have been contractually required to do so. But I suppose with the new kid-friendly marketing, they've probably outlawed the blade.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.51
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    That didn't work out so well for Kurt Angle.


Kurt Angle probably would have been better off had he adjusted his style for the injury at all.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by Alex
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      That didn't work out so well for Kurt Angle.


    Kurt Angle probably would have been better off had he adjusted his style for the injury at all.


True, but plenty of the other fusionites work approximately the same as they used to (Edge still does TLCs, Benoit still did the headbutt, Rhyno & Edge still spear and gore), and none of them needed a re-up. The only example I can think of where the fusion actually changed someone's moveset or style was when Lita saved the moonsault for special occasions.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.42
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Hey, good news. WWE.com says that Cena didn't have to get the fusion.

      Originally posted by Dr. Joseph Maroon
      "We performed a microsurgical removal of a large disk fragment compression on the spinal cord which was weakening the nerve leading to the right arm. ... I think John’s prognosis is excellent. He should be able to return to wrestling in two to four months."


    So would you say that this surgery was minimally invasive? That didn't work out so well for Kurt Angle. But I don't think there's any way that the herniated disc could have been as severe as the state of Kurt Angle's neck in 2003. That thing breaks more than a ... a bus driver.


Well, it's not like Cena went to Dr. Jho (although the surgery WAS done in your neck of the woods).

Meltzer was saying that the office pretty much recommends the fusion when necessary, so if they didn't do it this time, maybe it really wasn't as bad as feared.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by hansen9j
      Originally posted by Alex
        Originally posted by JustinShapiro
        That didn't work out so well for Kurt Angle.


      Kurt Angle probably would have been better off had he adjusted his style for the injury at all.


    True, but plenty of the other fusionites work approximately the same as they used to (Edge still does TLCs, Benoit still did the headbutt, Rhyno & Edge still spear and gore), and none of them needed a re-up. The only example I can think of where the fusion actually changed someone's moveset or style was when Lita saved the moonsault for special occasions.


Rhino still does the gore, but not like he used to. In fact, I'd say he changed his style quite a bit since his fusion. He doesn't bump as hard, nor does he run head first into anything and everything in the ringside area. I'd also say that in general, but by no means all the time, Edge wrestles a more conservative style since his fusion.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.51
It's just not the moves that they do, so much as it is the moves that they take. You may have noticed that there are far fewer german suplexes done anymore, for instance. Kurt Angle had his surgery and then was immediately getting thrown around by Brock Lesnar afterwards, if I recall correctly.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.41
    Originally posted by Alex
    It's just not the moves that they do, so much as it is the moves that they take. You may have noticed that there are far fewer german suplexes done anymore, for instance. Kurt Angle had his surgery and then was immediately getting thrown around by Brock Lesnar afterwards, if I recall correctly.





But is the fewer german suplexes due to health reasons or because it was mainly Benoit and Angle who used those moves?
I'd actually like to see the piledriver brought back, but only as a special finishing move, not as the transitional move it devolved into.
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