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Apparently, WWE.Com is sending out an email claiming that MTV refuses to air Cena's "Bad Bad Man" video ... Now, they're using the "It's Too Hot for MTV" tagline to (obviously) drum up interest, a la the Ruck Fules "controversy" on UPN, but there doesn't seem to be anything totally outrageous in that video that would justify such a banning (at least, not that I can remember).

Plus, the album seemed to do fairly well (number three on the rap charts in its debut, right), so lack of popularity can't be an issue ... So, what's the real story here? Anyone hear anything?






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Might the fact that it's the lamest thing ever recorded have something to do with it?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
    Originally posted by Alessandro
    Apparently, WWE.Com is sending out an email claiming that MTV refuses to air Cena's "Bad Bad Man" video ... Now, they're using the "It's Too Hot for MTV" tagline to (obviously) drum up interest, a la the Ruck Fules "controversy" on UPN, but there doesn't seem to be anything totally outrageous in that video that would justify such a banning (at least, not that I can remember).

    Plus, the album seemed to do fairly well (number three on the rap charts in its debut, right), so lack of popularity can't be an issue ... So, what's the real story here? Anyone hear anything?




It's the gunplay. MTV banned it in videos after Tupac and Biggie died. Cena copped to it in an interview a few weeks back on BET, I believe.

IIRC, the last video featuring someone firing a gun that MTV dealt with the Jay-Z "99 Problems" video, and that one was relegated to PM-viewing only and some MTV2 rotation.

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I think MTV sees this as a novelty act and they don't want to air it.

Oh and the fact that MTV doesn't air videos anymore.





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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.41
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Might the fact that it's the lamest thing ever recorded have something to do with it?


Ever seen an Eminem video? There was nothing in here nearly as lame as riding a turd.

    Originally posted by BobC
    I think MTV sees this as a novelty act and they don't want to air it.


MTV, or whichever cousin of it airs videos, will air anything, please don't kid yourself. Are you telling me this isn't above the standards of some of the crap they've aired? We're talking about the bottom of the television barrel here, this isn't Bravo. The gunplay explanation is the only one that holds up.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.26
I don't think it has as much to do with it's 'lameness' as it does have to do with being a pro-wrassler making another music video. You say "Pro wrestling" and a lot of people in the media (and life) roll their eyes right away.


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.79
    Originally posted by Bob C
    I think MTV sees this as a novelty act and they don't want to air it.


*cough*Kelly Osbourne*cough*

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by Bob C
      I think MTV sees this as a novelty act and they don't want to air it.


    *cough*Kelly Osbourne*cough*

    (edited by sentonBOMB on 31.5.05 1710)


Or Tom Green. Don't think that MTV is above airing anything. More likely, their corporate parent and Vince or Columbia aren't seeing eye-to-eye, or the proper backs haven't been scratched as required by whatever the modern-day payola protocol is.



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Or it could simply be that WWE's trying anything to make people interested in Cena (not that I'm saying he's not popular with the marks, 'cuz he is), so they'd be more than happy to make up controversy.

Sorry, but if you want some controversy, look back to the Attitude era. Steve Austin beating the hell out of his boss, drinking beers, dropping Stunners, using "Austin 3:16" and flipping the bird? That's controversy, but it's controversy that works because it's believable coming from him. Cena just seems overly gimmicked to me, and if you ask me they should focus less on the "hip-hop" aspect of his character and more on the "rebel". I think it'd appeal to a broader base of people.

But then, there are more reasons other than that why Cena won't ever be as popular as Austin, Rock, Foley and the "WWF Attitude" generation.



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What? No love for their Heat partnership? I don't know if MTV play videos much in the US but over here its non-stop Pimp My Ride and Cribs.



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Maybe it's heat from somebody upstairs at Viacom over the move of RAW back to USA (now an NBC/Universal joint?)




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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    ...and if you ask me they should focus less on the "hip-hop" aspect of his character and more on the "rebel". I think it'd appeal to a broader base of people.


That would be a lot more logical. I think Cena would be a lot hotter if they'd stuck with him as the edgy heel he was in late 2003 when he started getting over rather than turning him into the campy, over the top, "please buy my merchandise" version that he's been for the last year and a bit. While I'm not exactly in tune with the hip hop business, I can't help but think that would sell more in that crowd than this kiddie-pandering characature.



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    Originally posted by hhhgamewmx7
    What? No love for their Heat partnership? I don't know if MTV play videos much in the US but over here its non-stop Pimp My Ride and Cribs.


Nah, same over here, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Punk'd and the 2 Jackass spinoffs. And then they'll squeeze in another couple of episodes of the "We Have No Real Life So All We Do is These Stupid RR/RW Challenges".





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    Originally posted by Packman V2
      Originally posted by hhhgamewmx7
      What? No love for their Heat partnership? I don't know if MTV play videos much in the US but over here its non-stop Pimp My Ride and Cribs.


    Nah, same over here, Pimp My Ride, Cribs, Punk'd and the 2 Jackass spinoffs. And then they'll squeeze in another couple of episodes of the "We Have No Real Life So All We Do is These Stupid RR/RW Challenges".


A little-known fact about MTV is that they actually do play videos late at night when you're sleeping. I learned about this back in college, when I didn't sleep.



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If it means anything, here in Canada...I haven't seen it on MuchMusic. At least, not when I'm watching it.



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