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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
And the Lord said, "Behold! I give unto thee..."
    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
        Originally posted by Eddie Famous
        You lose the freaking coin toss, you lose the game, thats about a 50% chance to win the game.

      1. That's not a true statement. Not EVERY team that loses the coin toss loses the game, the figure is about 65-70%

    So, you have a 50% chance at having a 70% chance to win the game (by winning the toss), or a 50% chance at a 30% chance to win the game (by losing the toss).

    OR, I have a chance to win the game by trusting my team and my offense to move the ball three yards. (By your account, about 40%)

    Give me the ball, and the overwhelming momentum of the situation. I'll take that chance 100%. Let my team win or lose right there.

Two yards, actually, and yet I still disagree with you.

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.47
Just want to point out that Jim Haslett was on the receiving end of one of the greatest go-for-it type two point conversion attempts. Last season, the Vikings, completely out of the playoff hunt, added to the Saints annual December hurk-job when Mike Tice went for two with 5 seconds to play, and Daunte Culpepper went over the top for the game winning points. You must pay attention to history, Mr. Haslett. Shouldn't there be a universe where the Saints and Dolphins could play each other every week in December so someone comes out of it without feeling like the ultimate choke artists?

"That's like throwing stones at a man with a machine gun" - Roddy Piper

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.15
It just goes to show one thing: no matter how much I bitch, chew and whine about my Dolphins...there's always someone out there who has it worse.

If I had grown up in Lousiana or Cleveland or Cincinnatti instead of Miami, I'd have been as loyal a fan to the Saint, Browns or Bengals as I've been to the Fins, but yeah, it would have made watching those Dolphin seasons in my lifetime nothing by comparison.

I mean forget about the playoffs
Eddie Famous

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.25

    Originally posted by EddieBurkett

    Ultimately, the coin is not the fatal device. Did I use that word right?

You used it perfectly

But I still want my players to decide the game right there. If I was a player thats how I would want to do it.

As a Packer fan I would much rather have Favre rollout on that play than risk overtime....

"In the sky. Lord, in the sky..."

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Am I the only one thinking that a fake PAT attempt wouldn't have been a bad call here? Given the conservative thinking of most coaches, the Jags almost certainly wouldn't have been ready for it, and a surprise running play will almost invariably pick up the required two yards. A regular two-point attempt would probably have been thwarted, but a surprise like this, I think, would have been wiser than taking their chances in OT.

Don't play for ties when your opposition fully expects that from you. I thought one of the keys to football was totally surprising the opponent and catching them out of position, NOT doing exactly what they expect?

This does kinda prove what TMQ has been saying recently, although his comments have been directed at Mike Vanderjagt instead of Carney: miss one soon or you'll honk the really big one in the playoffs. I know this wasn't a playoff game, but for the Saints, it essentially was just that. Maybe Vanderjagt will take note?

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Regarding Gannon over Favre, I agree with it also. He had much better Yards Per Pass numbers 7.6 vs. 6.6. SI picked Favre because he had less to work with. But, I go with Gannon because of the numbers.
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