Well, I grew up with Mark Lawrence from WCCW, JR from Mid South, Dave Brown with Memphis wrestling, Gorilla in WWF, and Gordon Solie from Georgia.
Godon Solie treated it like a true sport, but when something WARRANTED him raising his voice he did. He just reserved it for when it was needed to tell the story. Unlike Don West and Mike Tenay who think everything should be screamed, 24/7. It was the subtleness that Solie brought that made him far and away better than JR ever hoped to be.
Originally posted by StaggerLeeGodon Solie treated it like a true sport, but when something WARRANTED him raising his voice he did. He just reserved it for when it was needed to tell the story. Unlike Don West and Mike Tenay who think everything should be screamed, 24/7. It was the subtleness that Solie brought that made him far and away better than JR ever hoped to be.
Yep. I recall a match between the Freebirds and (I think), The Von Erichs that Solie called and it was chaos. But Gordon just kept his cool, told the story, called every move, told a tale about BammBamm and Kevin and a match in the Florida territory that spilled over into the crowd and when PS Hayes pulled out the magic DDT against Kevin WHILE Kevin simultaneously applied the Claw, even Gordo got a little worked up. But then the match was over and it was time to send us off to a commercial for Empire Carpets.
Loved that man.
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Originally posted by JustinShapiroGorilla Monsoon is the "best PBP announcer of my childhood memories of watching wrestling," but he's far from the best, or even a good, announcer. In other words, he was great at having chemistry with Bobby Heenan, but terrible at calling wrestling.
Can you even remotely back that up? And objectively?
I can see not as good as Solie or JR, but "terrible at calling wrestling"? Other than the aforementioned two, no one touches Gorilla. Mike Tenay sounds like an eleven-year-old boy. Tony was Tony. Vince using large words improperly, trying to create some impression that he wasn't just an ape in a suit, was downright embarrassing. Gorilla also correctly named moves, which JR hasn't done consistently since the late 1980's.
It's not all opinion-based or nostalgic. Gorilla would call people on dumb moves, face or not, pointing out logical holes in their performances, which made him sound far more like a journalist analyzing performance than a shill. Now granted, he DID have to shill at times, especially for Hogan and the company at large, but you never suspected he might actually have some kind of homosexual attraction to anyone he shilled for. I will never forget when Austin was doing one of his returns to feud with Bischoff, and they played Austin's music, and JR looked toward the ramp and it was Bischoff pulling a fast one. And JR looked like he walked in on Edge with his wife. It was such a creepily passionate "friendship". Ditto for VKM and HBK in '96, and we all know what Hawk had to say about that.
I just don't agree at all with this ridiculously harsh assessment of yours. Which is rare, because you usually hit the nail right on the head, for me.
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Aw heck. How do I verbalize this. You know how the Todd Grishams of the world are bad at wrestling announcing because they have no clue? Gorilla is bad for the exact opposite reason -- he had all the product knowledge, but he just blahblahblahed his way through every match with inanity after inanity. Kind of like latter day Pat Summerall.
Now, I know Joe I-Sure-Hate-J.R. will say that Ross did just that, but J.R. using weird expressions or J.R. not calling the three minute matches on Raw because Vince is shouting in his ear is really not the same thing. Monsoon was just halfway off in his own world. I didn't mean to be over-the-top harsh denigrating Gorilla, because I have a lot of affection for the guy, but it does raise my eyebrows when someone calls him the best announcer ever. I think it would kind of like be calling Raffi the greatest musician of all-time.
Originally posted by JustinShapiro I think it would kind of like be calling Raffi the greatest musician of all-time.
Baby Beluga sings to my soul. And how dare you suggest otherwise.
Anyway, Gorilla was at the most, credible...but at least to me, not very entertaining. In fact, when I was a small kid, I distinctly remember becoming angry with Gorilla for cutting off Jesse Ventura and Bobby Heenan constantly when they were being hilarious. And even as a 6 year old kid, I didn't buy his hyperbole that the big, sweating, winded orange goblin in the ring was "The greatest athlete in the world today". However, he did convince me that Dale Wolfe could have actually defeated Ted DiBiase had he just hooked that leg....
Anyway, I think Gorilla's greatest gift to us all was his strange obsession with anatomy. Without Gorilla, I'd have gone an entire lifetime without knowing (or caring?) that the strange indentation on the back of my head was the external occipital protuberance. So umm, thanks for that. I think.
IIRC, the knock on Gewirtz is that he's easily influenced by whoever the lead wrestler(s) is at the time. For example, Kevin Nash supposedly had a lot of influence over Gewirtz before he hurt himself again that last time.