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HBK 2002
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#1 Posted on
I have enjoyed the work of the Hardy Boyz over the last few years. They have had some tremendous matches and looked to be real up-and-coming superstars. Hey, I even popped when Jeff Hardy won the I-C Title from Triple-H last year. But now...

Jeff Hardy is just plain weird. He looks like Schillinger's latest prag on Oz. What demographic are they trying to appeal to? Coked-up club kids who couldn't make Jerry Springer's latest "out of control teens" episode? Ravers coming down from an all-night ex binge?

Seriously. Jeff Hardy was pretty cool when he was this daredevil with no regard for his own safety. And it added context to his character when they portrayed him as kind of a Jim Morrison, sensitive loner type -- "Poetry in Motion" and all that nonsense. But now, he's gradually morphing into Bufallo Bill from Silence of the Lambs. Can someone please explain what the hell is going on here?
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You ever read his poetry? It seems the inside is finally coming out (pardon the pun).



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#3 Posted on

When I saw those blue pigtails, all I could think of was

Adrian Street.
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#4 Posted on
There's no doubt in my mind that Jeff Hardy is nuts. At first I thought it was just the insanity he does in TLC matches and what-not... but... damn, that boy just ain't right. :)




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Thanks, Shea, now I'm going to have echoes of "I'm in Love With Me" in the back of my head for the rest of the day. :-D
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Will someone please explain to me why he was not given the gay gimmick?





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I thought his hair was pretty cool looking on monday.



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#8 Posted on
I think his hair and his basic *look* are fine, it's wrestling so it's pretty hard to cross the line as far as looks go...hell look at Raven. What worries me about Jeff Hardy is that he doesn't look incredibly healthy lately. He's quite gangly and pale or moreso than usual.
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#9 Posted on
Jeff Hardy looks too weird to a) draw money, or b) get over with the majority of the fans. Sure, he may appeal to some niche of dirt-bike riding runaways, but he'll never become a money player. Because he has no charisma, he can't play a character based on that look. Perhaps a bizarre-looking character could draw money, sort of like Raven did in ECW. But Jeff can't play that character. Instead, he's a "regular" guy that just happens to look totally whacked out. Emotions sell tickets or PPV buys. Who can emotionally connect to Jeff Hardy? Just your average blue-haired, pig tailed, poetry writing wrestling fan. Sure, there are lots of those.

If I was Matt Hardy -- a guy with real potential and, suuposedly, a head for the business -- I would distance myself from Jeff.

(edited by HBK 2002 on 3.4.02 1409)
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by HBK 2002
    Jeff Hardy looks too weird to a) draw money, or b) get over with the majority of the fans. Sure, he may appeal to some niche of dirt-bike riding runaways, but he'll never become a money player. Because he has no charisma, he can't play a character based on that look. Perhaps a bizarre-looking character could draw money, sort of like Raven did in ECW. But Jeff can't play that character. Instead, he's a "regular" guy that just happens to look totally whacked out. Emotions sell tickets or PPV buys. Who can emotionally connect to Jeff Hardy? Just you average blue-haired, pig tailed, poetry writing wrestling fan. Sure, there are lots of those.

    If I was Matt Hardy -- a guy with real potential and, suuposedly, a head for the business -- I would distance myself from Jeff.


They should have broken up the Hardy Boyz instead of the Dudleyz. It's obvious they wanted to do it earlier, what with Matt turning heel for that month, and just like with the APA, it was like their only chance to do it and keep them both face. Matt could have been a mid-carder on Raw, and Jeff could have fought with the rest of the Cruiserweights.
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Jeff Hardy has some die-hard, vocal fans that love the raver-boy look. Is it a majority of fans? No. But as long as his gimmick is drawing more people than it's pushing away, why not stick with it (and don't give me any crap about how the masses are switching the channel because Jeff Hardy has pigtails)? Not everyone has to be the Rock and be a big money draw with insane crossover appeal.

Wrestlers with an appeal to a demographic that are traditionally not wrestling fans are a definite plus. The Hardys are one example of this. (Chyna was another). If Jeff Hardy had a chance to be a real main-event breakout superstar that could draw tons of money, I could see changing his character to a more mainstream one. But since he really doesn't, why not stick with him as a cult favorite who can draw a little money, as opposed to a more generic midcarder who would draw no money?







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#12 Posted on
If I was Matt Hardy -- a guy with real potential and, suuposedly, a head for the business -- I would distance myself from Jeff.

They tried that, remember? Matt turning heel? They obviously gave up on it.




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#13 Posted on

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    (and don't give me any crap about how the masses are switching the channel because Jeff Hardy has pigtails)


Don't know about you, but I'M switching the channel because his wrestling sucks. Blue pigtails actually results in me changing the channel five seconds later than I usually would. But sooner or later, when I see Hardyz on my TV screen, that channel's getting changed!
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#14 Posted on
Moe Gates has a good point. THe object may not be to draw in the masses. To be honest, that would be a stupid move since not everyone is going to draw in EVERYONE like Stone Cold or The Rock. It would be better lo let the guys who don't draw like the main events find a small cult following and enjoy that.

You could compare it to the movies: Not every movie is going to be a huge blockbuster like "Star Wars" or a classic like "Casablanca". You'll have the b-level cult classics like "Phantasm" and "I Spit on Your Grave". Jeff is right at that "Phantasm" level: a small, but loyal following who represent a small, but steady influx of cash.





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Now your name is just 'Twan
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
Uh, so it is now late breaking news that Jeff Hardy is a freak? I had no idea!

Where is the *Trish nude!* link to go with this?



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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by HBK 2002

    But now, he's gradually morphing into Bufallo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.



Has nothing to do with anything, but I always thought Goldust could have run with the Buffalo Bill gimmick ;)
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#17 Posted on
the boy's falen on his head how many times??? after all those table,ladder and chair spots, I can't imagine him being right in the head. perhaps we should start refferring to him as Bobby Hill.



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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by bigwavedave
    the boy's falen on his head how many times??? after all those table,ladder and chair spots, I can't imagine him being right in the head. perhaps we should start refferring to him as Bobby Hill.


How about "Cousin Boneless"?

Or, in honor of the ever changing hair color, "Skittlehead"?



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Here's a sample of Jeff's *cough* poetry:

Amazing Telephone

So many people are talking on phones across the world.
So many don't even think about the amazing telephone.
You are so far away...but I can hear you just fine.
There is no face to face...
But I can see you in my mind.
Your voice is traveling beyond the word of speed.
My voice is reacting at the perfect time you need.
The phone is so amazing...I look at it and stare.
I wonder how you hear me...
I wonder why I care?
So many people are talking from Europe to Japan.
So many conversations between the U.S. and Iran.
So many people are talking...while they're all alone.
So many people are using...
The amazing telephone.



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#20 Posted on
Anybody realize the real reason they didn't split up the Hardlyz and Litre?

They'd have to give them vignettes to show how they're handling the split. You know they can't carry vignettes like the Dudleyz or the APA. It'd be as excruitiating as putting Linda and Stephanie in the announce booth.

later, Rudy
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