12/2008: Jay Cutler's dad Mike Shanahan gets fired.
01/2009: Broncos offensive coordinator and Jay Cutler's boyfriend Jeremy Bates isn't retained by the team and he takes a job with USC.
01/2009: Unable to wash the sand from his vagina, poor lonely Jay Cutler quietly demands that Denver trade him.
02/2009: For some completely unexplainable reason, multiple teams start operating under the impression that Jay Cutler might be available in a trade. Thus, they engage Denver in discussions where said teams would acquire Cutler from Denver while Denver would acquire Matt Cassel from New England.
02/28/2009: Scott Pioli ruins everything by acquiring Cassel instead.
02/29/2009: Cutler, who previously asked for a trade, acts shocked and appalled to learn that Denver might have entertained the idea of trading him.
03/2009: Cutler tries everything, including dying his hair black and cutting himself, to make sure everyone knows he's been wronged and that he simply can't trust Denver anymore. Well, unless they want to give him a fat new contract.
03/2009: Hilariously, Denver handles the situation as poorly as humanly possible, engaging Cutler in a back-n-forth he said/she said instead of simply telling him to sit the F down and shut the F up (TM Carl Peterson).
04/02/2009: Denver trades away Cutler, ridding themselves of a whiny mentally weak head case who hasn't led a team to a winning season since high school (if then), but also sabotaging their offense and rendering the franchise useless and a prime candidate for contraction.
11/26/2011: Bears teammates reluctantly pull Brian Urlacher off Cutler during a locker room skirmish.
I hope Cutler is ready to run for his life. The Bears also signed Kevin Shaffer, QB killer, to a 3-year contract. He's real good at getting bull-rushed and run over by damn near every defensive lineman.
So... any of those other teams left want to take Derek Anderson off the Browns' hands? Pretty please? I'll throw in a bag of chips!
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You know what really grinds my gears about this whole Cutler thing? That so many media outlets, especially ESPN, keep on saying that he is an elite QB just because he did a good job for *most* of last season. Everyone wants to say that yeah he has a losing record, but he loses because his team's D stinks. They apperently forget that he got the benefit of facing some stinko D's himself in the west (KC, OAK, SD without Merriman). They also forget that when it was crunchtime against SD in the season finale, he threw for 2 costly INTs and got his yards and TDs when it was basically over and SD had already bulit a insermountable lead.
I swear the only reason he is getting as much pub as he is getting is because the suits at ESPN aren't getting any new material right now from their teenage-girl crushes T.O. or Favre and they need someone to fawn over, Tiger Beat style. They (and Bears fans) will realize that once he has to deal with tougher D's and without a really good WR like Marshall, he isn't going to look as good as advertised.
I also heard he was a douchebag at Vanderbilt. He has proved nothing to me except potential. Yes, he has a ton of it and a chance to be great, but I am not sold on it. The offense he ran last year was geared towards him throwing the ball a ton and he had three targets (Royal, Marshall and Sheffler) who have great hands and Stokley off the bench. I feel he will slide a littel in Chicago. I am interested to see how he does when the Chicago media starts calling for him to be a leader and a winner. My guess is he will have his agent (a bigger douchebag) broker another trade.
I sense we are looking at the second coming of Jeff George - Million dollar arm and ten cent head.
Not to pile on (well, not TOO much), but Cutler's crybaby rep has come up before. Last season, Chefs and Dolphins players commented how he was visibly shaken and bitching to officials and his team when things weren't going well. I think it was the Dolphins game, where he kept running over to the refs, complaining about his malfunctioning helmet radio. An improvising QB would just shuttle over to the Off. Coordinator to get the play. But Cutler seemed intent on displaying the problem to the refs.
Off the field, I thought the guy's personality was about as exciting as a broom handle. It's a common occurrence among pro athletes these days, but 95% of his interviews would sound like this: "well, y'know, it is what is, y'know. Sometimes, y'know, that's the way it is in this league, y'know?" He seemed to have an aloofness that ranked just above Brian Griese on the "Bronco Fan Annoyance Chart".
And the fact that several media sources keep bringing up the 4,500 yards shows how much fantasy football has invaded the NFL. Just as an aside, but the top 3 single-season yardage records for the Broncos are now: 1-Jay Cutler (in an 8-8 season) 2-Jake Plummer (in a 10-6 season. Lost Wildcard game. Badly.) 3- John Elway (in a 9-7 season. Lost Wildcard game. Badly.)
I just wanted to mention that pointing to Cutler's record as a starter in the NFL as a reason for why he is not as good as people say he is is mind-numbingly retarded, because the Broncos fielded some of the worst defenses in the NFL during those years. I don't think even Peyton Manning would've had much success playing with a porous defense.
Manning's defenses weren't that great during his early runs either (and the year they won the Super Bowl, they didn't put up any semblence of a run defense until the Playoffs).
And that said, I've never really been all that impressed with Cutler. He makes a lot of poor decisions, and hasn't really played at an elite level. His five best games in terms of yardage, which is what put him in the Pro Bowl last year, were against San Diego, Kansas City, Cleveland, the Jets, and Buffalo. Not exactly thrilling defenses, even in the case of San Diego who was playing awful at the time.
Then, at the end of the season, when he was fighting for a playoff spot, his numbers really fell off the table. His passing yards stayed roughly average (but for a real stinker against Carolina), but in the last five games of the season he was a really mediocre 6-6 TD/Int, and he lost two very winnable games against Carolina and against Buffalo.
Don't get me wrong, he's a big upgrade over Orton, but he's coming into a situation playing with a worse offensive line, no receivers, and a worse coaching staff.
Originally posted by BroncolancheI just wanted to mention that pointing to Cutler's record as a starter in the NFL as a reason for why he is not as good as people say he is is mind-numbingly retarded, because the Broncos fielded some of the worst defenses in the NFL during those years. I don't think even Peyton Manning would've had much success playing with a porous defense.
I'm pretty sure Peyton's made the playoffs with a D that shipped 400+ points, but I don't think anyone's saying he sucks because of his win/loss record, or sucks at all for that matter.
Problem is, when you throw your toys out the pram because your team entertained the possibility of trading you , you're basically comparing yourself to one of the best players in the league. I think there was even a quote from him/Bus doing exactly that ("the Pats/Colts wouldn't consider trading Brady or Manning", or words to that effect) which is silly because:
a. He's never won anything, or even made the playoffs. b. His best games are often against poorer teams. c. Flashy numbers on poor/average teams can be a sign of potential greatness, or a sign of Jon Kitna. And most importantly, d. A franchise as well run and pragmatic as the Pats absolutely would consider trading Brady if the offer was right, and I'm guessing the Colts would do the same with Manning. Everyone has a price.
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah. Nobody's saying he isn't good, just taking issue with the fact that a lot of people, Jay included, seem to be confusing potential (which he has) with established greatness (which he hasn't).
That, and he's so clearly a douchebag. A douchebag with BANGS no less! Criticising douchebags should never be considered retarded.
If Cutler was such a douche, why weren't there more threads about his general douchiness prior to the whole trade fiasco (which, in all reality, is not a fiasco). I've always thought of him as an above average, serviceable QB who could get the job done. Then, somebody tried to make a move for someone that COULD take his job, at which point he wanted somebody to take it. That's big time douchebag, but prior, I'm having trouble getting that.
Realistically, we'll all see if Cutler is a real deal QB or if the Bears got ripped off worse than the Minnesota Vikings when they took Herschel Walker from the Cowboys. If he produces in a division with tougher defenses (on the whole, Minnesota and Green Bay make up for Detroit and are tougher than Oakland, KC, and San Diego sans Merriman), with a supporting offensive cast that almost palls in comparison to the guys he had in Denver, while the Broncos use all the picks they got for him on complete and utter bust players, then the Bears won this trade. After all, maybe Cutler was why all those Broncos offensive starters shined, maybe not. The punchline; the worse Cutler performs, the better for Denver in the 2010 draft.
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And now, a week later, the deal is back on, pending physicals, sez ESPN. As I said in an earlier thread, given that they already have a kick returner I think this deal makes the 'Skins worse, not better. 'Skins or Jets fans disagree?