From what I could piece together from various news sources over the last month or so:
03/09/2009: Denver Broncos receive a call from another NFL team, possibly Kansas City and/or Tampa and possibly involving Matt Cassel) inquiring about QB Jay Cutler. The QB is not being actively shopped, however new head coach Josh McDaniels and owner Pat Bowlen listen to the inquiry and ultimately decide that Jay will not be considered for a trade.
03/11/2009: QB Jay Cutler hears whispers of a supposed trade involving him and expresses his anger and disappointment to the Denver media stating that he feels hurt and disrespected.
03/14/2009: Cutler and his agent Bus Cook have a conference call with the Denver brass to discuss the situation. McDaniels tells the media the he informed Cutlter that he was not being actively shopped but a team called and was interested in him. The GM and coach said that Jay was their QB and they will move on. However, Cutler expresses to the media that the call did not go like he wanted, feels that he was misled about the potential trade, still feels that he will be traded before the NFL draft.
03/15/2009: Cutler puts his Denver-area home up for sale. Days later, Cutler's parents also put their area home on the market. ESPN reports that in a statement to the Broncos, Bus Cook notifies the team that his client is formally requesting a trade. Cutler later confirms the request.
03/16/2009: Cutler skips a mandatory(?) team meeting.
03/28/2009: Josh McDaniels again says in a statement that Cutler is their QB and will not be traded.
03/31/2009: Owner Pat Bolen tells ESPN that he has been unable to reach Cutler for days and that his request for a trade will be accomodated.
04/02/2009: In an interview with a Fox News reporter, Cutler expressed surprise that he would be traded, even though he formally asked to be traded two weeks prior.
That being said, a trade now seems inescapable, and there are several interested suitors including Detroit, NY Jets, San Fran, Tampa Bay, Minnesota, Washington, and Chicago. Washington seems the most interested, but word is that Denver will want two first round picks in exchange for the QB.
So...a) Where does he land? b) Who is the new QB in Denver? c) Who is to blame here for unhappy ending in the Jay Cutler/Denver Broncos marriage?
As a Redskins fan I am 100% for Cutler coming to town. I like Jason Campbell, but he has ZERO emotion and holds onto the ball way too long. I don't even know how many times he was sacked last year on important third downs. He was great in the first half of the season, but crumbled badly after the Steelers game. Oh, and Cutler had almost twice as many TD's as he did. Bring the change.
Am I in Horseville? Because I'm hearing nothing but naysayers!
Originally posted by The King of KeithAs a Redskins fan I am 100% for Cutler coming to town. I like Jason Campbell, but he has ZERO emotion and holds onto the ball way too long. I don't even know how many times he was sacked last year on important third downs. He was great in the first half of the season, but crumbled badly after the Steelers game. Oh, and Cutler had almost twice as many TD's as he did. Bring the change.
I feel the same way. Campbell is decent, but he won't take us to that next level. We need an upgrade at QB.
-- 2006 Time magazine Person of the Year --
"I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office." — George W. Bush - June 26, 2008, during a Rose Garden news briefing.
I don't know much about Cutler, other than I recall Kiper bashing him mercilessly that year before he was drafted, but he's come across as a real idiot in this mess. Not sure if I'd be looking at him as a long term solution at QB given how badly he overreacted to this situation.
Originally posted by djpSo...a) Where does he land? b) Who is the new QB in Denver? c) Who is to blame here for unhappy ending in the Jay Cutler/Denver Broncos marriage?
a) Washington. Snyder never met an overhyped star that he didn't love b) Probably Jason Campbell in return, or it's very possible Denver drafts a QB of the future c) Bus Cook. Second straight offseason that the guy has been at the heart of a messy quarterback drama.
(edited by Big Bad on 2.4.09 1732) Kirk, crackers are a family food. Happy families. Maybe single people eat crackers, we don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we can do without.
As a Chiefs fan this whole saga has been fun to watch. And we got a (hopefully) good QB for just a 2nd round pick. Chicago gives up a 1st and 3rd this year and ANOTHER 1st next year to get Cutler. I'd say I'm happy with the deal Pioli made. Cutler will probably be good in Chicago, but that is a LOT to give up for him, considering he's never even made the playoffs.
I also blame Bus Cook. By whining about the proposed Matt Cassell trade, Cutler put himself under a lot of pressure. Had he remained in Denver, all he had to do was win the season opener..and the fair-weather fans in Denver would have forgiven him. But by going to a new team, he's suddenly The Savior and the pressure is greater. A sub .500 record in Chicago and I can hear the locals belly-aching: "why'd we'd trade for dis' bum?! He ain't had a 350 yard game yet and we're only 4-4!"
A little bit of blame is also heaped on Pat Bowlen. The common assumption around Denver is that, by firing Mike Shanahan, Bowlen regained control of his team. He was faced with losing control once again and went ahead with trading Cutler.
Oh...and I guess CBS4's "Jay Cutler Live from Old Chicago" show needs a new host for the 2009 season. And it's completely worthless, but it's a litle funny (okay, funny to me and my Old Man) that Cutler is going to the real Old Chicago, now.
The Packers have done nothing, and even if they have a good draft how many of those players will be worth anything this year? The Vikings still have no QB, and the Lions are the Lions.
I like the move by the Bears. Everyone has been scratching their head at the QB situation going into every year although it makes you wonder if they moved a year or two too late. Also, as talented as Cutler is he better start growing up, because he really looks like a whiney bitch after all of this.
Edit: As a side note ESPN has a poll up asking who got the better of the trade and it is exactly 50/50 with over 137,000 votes cast. I guess that makes it a fairly even swap on paper.
Will the Bears be holding a remedial course for their fan base in order to explain that it is perfectly legal for the player who has the ball snapped to them from center to throw the ball forward? At the very least, the Bears do have the best QB situation in the NFC North, and when was the last time the Bears had the best QB situation in their division, if ever?
Originally posted by redsoxnationWill the Bears be holding a remedial course for their fan base in order to explain that it is perfectly legal for the player who has the ball snapped to them from center to throw the ball forward? At the very least, the Bears do have the best QB situation in the NFC North, and when was the last time the Bears had the best QB situation in their division, if ever?
Games 1 thru 8, 2006. Never before, never since, until about five hours ago.
Originally posted by redsoxnation At the very least, the Bears do have the best QB situation in the NFC North, and when was the last time the Bears had the best QB situation in their division, if ever?
I know I'm a Packer fan, but: Aaron Rodgers 2008-64% completion percentage, 7.4 yards per attempt, 28 TDs, 13 INTs Jay Cutler 2008-62% completion percentage, 7.3 yards per attempt, 25 TDs, 18 INTs
And according to Football Outsiders advanced metrics, Denver had the best run-blocking O-Line and the 4th best pass-blocking O-line, as compared to the Packers 18th ranked run-blocking and 14th ranked pass-blocking.
Not saying it's obvious that Rodgers is better, but I don't think it's a slam dunk for Cutler either.
At any rate, Cutler will definitely help them. They upgrade their WRs and they might be scary.
Thought maybe someone who already runs an NFL Football Pool might want to check out our format. You need excel to actually run the pool an use this template. http://webpages.charter.net/michaelmyth/Pool.xls Go Patriots Maniac