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Since: 25.2.04
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French Cinemas Silence Cell Phones (news.yahoo.com)

This is a great idea, and I'd like to see it over here. I can't count how many times a movie I've been watching has been interrupted by either somebody who forgot to turn their phone off, or an incredibly rude person who actually takes calls during the movie ("I'm just watching Spiderman 2. She said what? Really?")

Right now, (at least in the theaters I've been in lately) the only thing you can do is give dirty looks and eventually curse the offender out. Or hope an usher grows some balls, but that's never happened.
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From the article: "Would-be jammers must take care not to disrupt calls outside the auditorium, and not to interfere with the ability to make emergency calls."

Practically impossible.

Remember, cell phones are radios. Some better at receiving than others. The amount of signal that a movie theater would have to generate to make the cells useless would CERTAINLY leak out over a wide area, depending on propagation.

PLUS, the technology that would determine emergency and non emergency calls doesn't exist and won't. And who will determine the necessity of the calls?

PLUS! The technology to scramble other's phone conversations...do you REALLY want that available to the general public like that?







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I see the problem with jammers, especially as the whole selectively emergency vs. non-emergency calls thing. But don't security for the president and other important figures have jammers to prevent explosives from being detonated via cell phones? What's that jam, a few blocks? About the size of your average megaplex these days?

Or why not build a giant faraday cage? We built one in high school using sheets of brass mesh fiber, I believe, and it was pretty large (roughly half a classroom) and we couldn't get a cell phone signal or a walkie talkie to work. Like I said, the emergency thing is a pain, but we got along without cell phones in the olden days, didn't we? (yes, I realize the impractability, but we've got whole government buildings shielded via faraday cage technology, so somebody smart get on it!)

    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
    PLUS! The technology to scramble other's phone conversations...do you REALLY want that available to the general public like that?


I found several jammers for sale on Yahoo (yes, they're illegal in the US, but that's not stopping people) as well as homemade ones on Ebay. There's also plans to build them on Yahoo and Google. It might not be for sale to the general public, but if somebody wanted to procure one, they can. As I said, security companies and the government seems to have them.

(edited by Roy. on 12.10.04 2258)
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I've heard that hotels are looking to install cell phone "jammers" because they are losing lots and lots of money in in-room phone fees as guests simply chat on their cell phones the entire stay. I really hope they don't.....
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I'm not sure why emergency calls are an issue. After all, it wasn't that long ago that cell phones didn't even exist. And yet the world continued on at theaters, emergencies or not. Do you really have a right to be "connected" 24 hours a day, regardless of where you are at? I think as private property owners, theaters have the right to jam cell phones if they so choose and if it is possible.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.81
    Originally posted by ges7184
    I'm not sure why emergency calls are an issue. After all, it wasn't that long ago that cell phones didn't even exist. And yet the world continued on at theaters, emergencies or not. Do you really have a right to be "connected" 24 hours a day, regardless of where you are at? I think as private property owners, theaters have the right to jam cell phones if they so choose and if it is possible.


Its not an issue of being connected or not. If something happens, its nice to know that I can call 911 just by reaching into my pocket instead of having to run somewhere. Plus, if its MY doctor who's going to see a movie, I'd sure like him to be connected if I have an urgent problem. Hopefully, he'll have the decency to keep his pager/cell phone on vibrate, but given that we're talking about emergencies, I'm willing to live with a few assholes who take/make calls during movies as a trade off.

Besides, even if we block the phones, people will still talk to their friends and be rude in general. Until we develop a technology for jamming sound in general, our only real weapons are the dirty looks and cursing them out.

(edited by EddieBurkett on 12.10.04 2340)


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How about using the money for something more practical like hiring old school ushers who actually stay in the theater and will eject morons who would rather subject everyone to their phone's version of Auld Lang instead keeping it on vibrate. But then again that would require too much common sense. God help the person who jams my phone (which is always on vibrate anyway) if someone in my family had an emergency and couldn't get though to me.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
    Originally posted by Roy.
    French Cinemas Silence Cell Phones (news.yahoo.com)

    This is a great idea, and I'd like to see it over here. I can't count how many times a movie I've been watching has been interrupted by either somebody who forgot to turn their phone off, or an incredibly rude person who actually takes calls during the movie ("I'm just watching Spiderman 2. She said what? Really?")

    Right now, (at least in the theaters I've been in lately) the only thing you can do is give dirty looks and eventually curse the offender out. Or hope an usher grows some balls, but that's never happened.


In some Catholic churches in Mexico, they jam cell phone signals so that the congregants' cell phones are inoperable during Mass. However, these devices are illegal in the U.S. so we won't see them in movie theaters, churches, classrooms or anywhere else I'd like to see cell phones rendered inoperable.
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    Originally posted by SeVen
    How about using the money for something more practical like hiring old school ushers who actually stay in the theater and will eject morons who would rather subject everyone to their phone's version of Auld Lang instead keeping it on vibrate. But then again that would require too much common sense.
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Yeah I have to totally agree with SeVen. The theaters should just quit being pussies and enforce their own rules. Instead of this let's not piss off the assholes even if they offend 97% of the customers.



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Tis a wonderful idea, while we're at it, jam them in restaurants, libraries, ballparks, classrooms, and urban expressways. At the very least ban them damn annoying ringtones that make me want to clean out my guns.

If an emergency happens, it will wait til you get home, it's not a first aid kit after all. Civilization went millions of years without cell phones, I'm sure it will life will go on 90 minutes without one. And if your still paranoid, walk to the lobby, call home, check on the daughter. Just don't ruin what I spend good money to enjoy.




(edited by Nag on 15.10.04 1332)
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    Originally posted by Nag
    Tis a wonderful idea, while we're at it, jam them in restaurants, libraries, ballparks, classrooms, and urban expressways. At the very least ban them damn annoying ringtones that make me want to clean out my guns.

    If an emergency happens, it will wait til you get home, it's not a first aid kit after all. Civilization went millions of years without cell phones, I'm sure it will life will go on 90 minutes without one. And if your still paranoid, walk to the lobby, call home, check on the daughter. Just don't ruin what I spend good money to enjoy.




    (edited by Nag on 15.10.04 1332)

What an extraordinarily selfish thought.

I'm on call at work - I guess I shouldn't be allowed to go see a movie, because you might be disrupted if I notice the VIBRATE MODE of my phone is engaged.

Doctors shouldn't be allowed to enjoy good restaurants either - wouldn't want YOU to be inconvenienced.

I love how you can knock everyone with a cell phone and not see how self absorbed your statement is.



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If I'm paying 20 bucks for a night at the movies, I want to hear the movie, not you discussing business ventures. If I'm paying 30-40 bucks for a nice dinner, I want to enjoy my meal in peace and not with the digital version of Macerana going off in my ears. If you don't mind getting up and getting popcorn, or don't mind getting up to take a piss, then what's the big to-do about leaving the premises to check you voice mail or caller ID.

The selfishness comes from people who actually believe that their life is so important, that it needs to be broadcasted to the rest of the world. And that's the psychology behind it. I don't care if your making 1500 a day and own two hummers, I don't care if your sister's boyfriend's nephew's daughter is having an affair with your roommate, I don't care about your dog's bowel movement. Linguistically speaking, that's usually the emergency.

I guess what frustrates me is what I don't understand, I don't do this to people, is what I was brought up believing mutual respect to be, now a one way street?
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If you jam the signal, I won't know I have a voice mail. Just because the assholes are visible it doesn't make everyone with a cell phone (or the need to be contacted in emergency) an asshole. It's pretty simple.

You can deal with assholes without blowing it for the rest of us. I'm not going to stop leaving the house just so I can be reached by work - I'm not going to stop living my life and they aren't going to stop needing to get a hold of me on a moments notice.

Maybe if you had a job where this was a requirement you would understand.



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    Originally posted by Nag
    The selfishness comes from people who actually believe that their life is so important, that it needs to be broadcasted to the rest of the world.


Actually the selfishness behind THIS is that people think that although they are in a public business like a theater or a restaurant, they should be treated like they are in a sound-proof booth and life around them comes to a dead halt.

This is the same thought behind telling people they are cheering too loud at a football game.

    Originally posted by Nag
    I guess what frustrates me is what I don't understand, I don't do this to people, is what I was brought up believing mutual respect to be, now a one way street?


You were brought up to believe that your not being irritated is much more important than someone getting a call that might save a life? Or their job? Amazing.






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I am very much against any business jamming cell phone signals. There is obviously a potential for a situation in which there could be an emergency. Or unlikely but possible things like interfering with police signals or other things like that.
But if most of the customers want to be able to eat in relative peace then the establishment should be able to tell loud customers to be quiet or leave. Whether it's just loud converstation, cell phones, annoying kids, or whatever.
A movie theater is a lot different. Front Row Joe or some other character ALWAYS says no talking, cell phones, crying babies, laser pointers, and etc. is allowed. So why don't the movie theaters just enforce their own rules?
The reason why is that modern buisnesses especially in the low range like fast food and movie theaters they beat the concept of customer service into their employees. So 1 customer is allowed to be rude to 40 others and is ignored. I unfortunately managed a Mcd's for 3 years so I know very well how this works. Ask 1 drunk ass rude customer to please be quiet and he will threaten to sue (won't happen) and to have your job (might happen). If the buisness has enough faith in their management to handle every other problem they should trust their judgement and not worry so much about the "for every bad experience a customer have they tell at least 7 people about it" crap.



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To be fair, I'm sure Nag is not talking about people like you, Eddie & Guru. IMO, anyone who leaves their cell phone on vibrate, and then proceeds to leave the theater seating is ok. But we've all seen those self-righteous pricks who leave it ringing, or have their conversations right at their seat, or something stupid like that. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem possible to stop one group without stopping the other group. Jammers can't measure intent, or seriousness, or anything like that.

That's why I feel they should make it legal to beat someone up inside a movie theater under certain circumstances. That would teach those people ;-)



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"Just because the assholes are visible it doesn't make everyone with a cell phone (or the need to be contacted in emergency) an asshole."

Not everyone who owns a cell phone is an asshole, just every asshole owns a cell phone.

"Maybe if you had a job where this was a requirement you would understand."

I can see where you coming from, trust me, and yes you seem like you would have enough common courtesy to keep it on vibrate and take your conversation to a private area if need be. But you would have to agree, that those who do are in the minority.

The biggest beef is at my college, those things are going off in the classroom at a pace of once every ten minutes. And yes, they take the damned calls in the middle of a lecture, exam, whatever. Being that I'm in my final year and I need absolute quiet to concentrate on these pretty important topics, it irritates the hell out of me.
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    Originally posted by Nag
    I can see where you coming from, trust me, and yes you seem like you would have enough common courtesy to keep it on vibrate and take your conversation to a private area if need be. But you would have to agree, that those who do are in the minority.


That's not necessarily true. Because the people who follow the rules and use the vibrate feature are virtually invisible to you (as it should be), you can't gauge how many of them are out there. They only appear to be in the minority because the assholes who break the rules are so obvious.

    Originally posted by Nag

    The biggest beef is at my college, those things are going off in the classroom at a pace of once every ten minutes. And yes, they take the damned calls in the middle of a lecture, exam, whatever. Being that I'm in my final year and I need absolute quiet to concentrate on these pretty important topics, it irritates the hell out of me.


Hasn't your professor done anything about this? I've had professors threaten to confiscate cell phones just for ringing. Surely, you can't be the only one affected by this, and I can't see how any professor could sit idly by on this issue.



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From a legal standpoint, I still don't see why you have the right to tell private property owners what they can or can't do on their private property. I still don't think you have a God-given right to be connected 24 hours a day, regardless of where you may be at and what your work requirements may be. A theatre or any other place is well within their right to ban cell phones altogether, and I am sure that some do. (Aren't cell phones banned on planes as well due to safety issues?) So it is from that perspective that I wouldn't see a problem with jamming phone calls, as long as it didn't interfere with other private property owners right to allow phone calls, or interferred in public space. I think that they are well within their right, and if that helps business (which is the only reason they would make the move), it should be allowed.

I also not sure if why one's own personal concern about their own work isn't just as selfish as one's desire not to have their entertainment disrupted. It's just one selfish desire against another, at least it is to me.

Could it be a problem that the employer wants to be connected to their employees 24 hours a day, even in non-emergency roles? Of course, that could be an entirely different discussion.

(edited by ges7184 on 17.10.04 1144)


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